[OOC] Transformers-Power Surge

[MistressCyanide]

Forsythe said
Q: Is Starscream's spark still immortal here? :D *plotting, scheming and laughing madly*

Yes but Starscream is inactive at the moment, but for how long is another matter. He is with the rest of the dead Autobots and Decepticons. Both sides need the leaders to rise again and with that comes the others.

Shockwave is still active though so he will be saying things to the Decepticons here and there until Megatron comes back, if he comes back.

[Kalamadea]

Parser said
Professor has a guy that punches things to death, actually.

Well, my character will be more of a martial artist than a straight-up brawler like Krieg. He'd be fast and nimble instead of using brute strength.

I also imagine Shockwave will take up the mantle of Decepticon leadership if Megatron never recovers. To be honest, I think Shockwave as Decepticon leader is a bit scarier since he's known to be far more sadistic than Megatron.

[Zero Hex]

My character is already fast and nimble in the Decepticons, he's a ninja you see

[Kalamadea]

Anyway, I'm already filling out a form. I'm about halfway done and will go ahead and post it on the chance that Sinrage doesn't show up.

[Rhona W]

Kalamadea said
Well, my character will be more of a martial artist than a straight-up brawler like Krieg. He'd be fast and nimble instead of using brute strength.I also imagine Shockwave will take up the mantle of Decepticon leadership if Megatron never recovers. To be honest, I think Shockwave as Decepticon leader is a bit scarier since he's known to be far more sadistic than Megatron.

It wouldn't be the first time Shockwave has tried to take control. He's been through various periods of being the Decepticon leader in the comics, both Marvel and otherwise. One of the best comic covers of all time has to do with his attempt at taking over.

[MistressCyanide]

Kalamadea said
Anyway, I'm already filling out a form. I'm about halfway done and will go ahead and post it on the chance that Sinrage doesn't show up.

You know what you can just have a place regardless as even with an extra CS, the Autobots will still have more as they will have many NPC's and will also have Hound, Bluestreak and the others if and when they come back. The Autobots will also always outnumber them even when and if Megatron comes back and you know he will because its him.

Also on another note I saw Transfomers 4 and I wonder WTF the writers are doing, have they watched the original or read anything. I mean creative licenses is something one can use and I will use it but they used it in the wrong places. If it was not for the music and transformer designs I would stop watching but the designs are just really good. Also I thought Shockwave was in Transformers 2 not Soundwave, why was it Soundwave who then comes to earth in another form? Also I don't really the human side of things though Spike and anyone in the comics and TV don't brother.

I like the attitude Prime had but the fights are always one sided and the bad guys lose way more then the good guys. What one good to five bad is fair, if they were not established characters then fine but I know at least 2-4 of them were though only one had any character development and it was very little at all. Why are the writers not thinking about what the Transformers are and why can't they write an actual story. I would not call it complete crap but it is no where going to beat the X-Men, Godzilla or Captain America film. Also some of the ideas they used bothered me.

Whatever this is I have stopped now.

[Kalamadea]

I must be one of the few Transformers fans who sees no huge problems with the Transformers films. They're not perfect, but I don't think they're horrible.

Then again, I'm not picky about any franchise. As long as it's entertaining, I have no problems with it.

Also, thanks. I should have the sheet up either today or tomorrow.

[MistressCyanide]

^Samus is my favourite Nintendo character following many others behind it.

[Kalamadea]

Samus is my favorite heroine ever. She's just completely badass when you disregard her characterization in Other M. That's my only complaint about Other M; how it made Samus like a rookie all over again on her second to last mission, relying on Adam to determine when her tools should be brought online. If she were characterized properly, Adam would have no authority over her.

[Rhona W]

Kalamadea said
I must be one of the few Transformers fans who sees no huge problems with the Transformers films. They're not perfect, but I don't think they're horrible.Then again, I'm not picky about any franchise. As long as it's entertaining, I have no problems with it.Also, thanks. I should have the sheet up either today or tomorrow.

My main problem with them is that I grew up reading the Marvel transformers comics and several subsequent stories that have followed on from them.
The comics really got into some detail and depth of the characters of both factions, as well as their human friends and allies, and made them into characters with a lot of depth and scope. They also took the story of 'good robots fight bad robots. They also turn into stuff'. And gave it a whole mythology and background that spun out into more of an epic (in the literary sense) tale of ancient forces of primeval creation and destruction that affect more than just themselves.

Michael Bay's movies gave us swinging robot testicles and racist sub-compact sports cars. Oh, and farting robots.

I understand that the movies are targeted toward a more casual audience, but even a casual audience don't need to be treated like idiots, and those movies are - to my opinion - idiotic. They're eye-candy, plain and simple, and as a fan of Transformers, I don't find that they really answer what I want from a Transformers story - non-human characters with developed personality, and stories that have more than robots punching each other while some tediously conventionally 'hot' woman pouts at the camera and THINGS EXPLODE.

But then maybe I want too much out of my movies, since they keep cranking them out and they keep making money.

[Jerkchicken]

I didn't even know Samus had characterization.

Also I find your complaint about a franchise made to sell toys( especially one from the 80's where they were really unsubtle) being shallow in the movies amusing.

[Rhona W]

Kalamadea said
Samus is my favorite heroine ever. She's just completely badass when you disregard her characterization in Other M. That's my only complaint about Other M; how it made Samus like a rookie all over again on her second to last mission, relying on Adam to determine when her tools should be brought online. If she were characterized properly, Adam would have no authority over her.

Wasn't it also horrendously sexist, considering that the original point in the NES game was that 'the badass character is a woman all along', and making her dependent on some boringly normal man kind of took away a bit of her cred as a powerful female.
That said, Japan is hardly the most progressive country in it's approach to female characters >.<

[Forsythe]

I got into transformers with the Unicron trilogy (Oh god armada starscream is the best character ever) followed up by beast wars and finally Prime, so I am completely lost among you here xD

[Zero Hex]

I disagree on Prime's attitude, I feel it's really contrary to the character's depiction across media. While Prime will wreck a bitch if necessary, Bayverse Prime has an obsession with violence that reaches Decepticon levels of sadism. Assaulting and viciously beheading Megatron right after he saves his life and proposes a truce, executing Sentinel Prime via shotgun headshot while he's beaten and practically begging for his life, using fucking hooks to tear apart a dude's head (the guy famous for using a hook for that kind of stuff is one of the villains in the latest movie, go figure) and the whole GIVE ME YOUR FACE scene in Revenge of the Fallen. That is so vicious and unnecessarily violent it doesn't look out of place when a psychotic spree killer does it in one of the comics.

[Rhona W]

Jerkchicken said
Also I find your complaint about a franchise made to sell toys( especially one from the 80's where they were really unsubtle) being shallow in the movies amusing.

Whatever it was made for in the first place or not, does not detract from my reasons for disliking it - I'm not obliged to like the movies if they don't fit what I've enjoyed about the franchise in the past. Whether that amuses you or not is up to you. You don't have to like Transformers for the same reasons as me.

If you want a more 'legitimate' reason for my dislike of them, I think they're just shitty in their pacing, writing, character, dialogue and consistency. But that's secondary to the fact that I don't like them because they don't have what I like in them.

[MistressCyanide]

Zero Hex said
I disagree on Prime's attitude, I feel it's really contrary to the character's depiction across media. While Prime will wreck a bitch if necessary, Bayverse Prime has an obsession with violence that reaches Decepticon levels of sadism. Assaulting and viciously beheading Megatron right after he saves his life and proposes a truce, executing Sentinel Prime via shotgun headshot while he's beaten and practically begging for his life, using fucking hooks to tear apart a dude's head (the guy famous for using a hook for that kind of stuff is one of the villains in the latest movie, go figure) and the whole GIVE ME YOUR FACE scene in Revenge of the Fallen. That is so vicious and unnecessarily violent it doesn't look out of place when a psychotic spree killer does it in one of the comics.

I guess I just really liked the fuck the humans part. What I would like to see is the bad guys win some and the good guys win some not the good guys win all the time every time.

[Kalamadea]

Silverwind Blade said
Wasn't it also horrendously sexist, considering that the original point in the NES game was that 'the badass character is a woman all along', and making her dependent on some boringly normal man kind of took away a bit of her cred as a powerful female.That said, Japan is hardly the most progressive country in it's approach to female characters >.<

It was. Other M's story is what happens when Japan gets involved. They made Samus a completely submissive bimbo, like most anime girls.

Jerkchicken said
I didn't even know Samus had characterization.Also I find your complaint about a franchise made to sell toys( especially one from the 80's where they were really unsubtle) being shallow in the movies amusing.

If you play the Prime trilogy, she gets a ton of characterization without ever uttering a word. The Prime trilogy is, by far, the best depiction of Samus to date. She had plenty of opportunities to speak in Prime 3 since it had voice acted cutscenes, but still chose to remain silent. She's depicted as a brave, strong person who's not afraid to risk her life for the good of others, even nearly blowing herself up to save the galaxy. It's like Silverwind said; the point of Samus's original, and lore-accurate, characterization is that she could easily be mistaken for a man (hell, there are still people that don't know Samus is a woman), and when the armor comes off, you find out that the badass is a woman, not that the woman is a badass. The reveal of Samus's gender is still considered one of the biggest shockers in video game history, and that's what Metroid depends on.

[MistressCyanide]

I hope the Prime 4 rumor is real or that another Metroid game is coming. But I would also like another F-Zero game, better then that a weird cross over of the two. Two bounty hunters, one main villain.

[Kalamadea]

It is. Nintendo actually stated they're thinking of a new Prime game, but it likely won't be called Metroid Prime. It'll be Prime-style, since the Prime trilogy was wrapped up with a nice little bow.

And there is the mystery behind Dark Samus's demise as well. It's not clear if she was permanently killed this time, so we could see her returning. I hope she does, because she's my favorite Metroid villain ever, a perfect foil to Samus.

[MistressCyanide]

Kalamadea said
It is. Nintendo actually stated they're thinking of a new Prime game, but it likely won't be called Metroid Prime. It'll be Prime-style, since the Prime trilogy was wrapped up with a nice little bow.And there is the mystery behind Dark Samus's demise as well. It's not clear if she was permanently killed this time, so we could see her returning. I hope she does, because she's my favorite Metroid villain ever, a perfect foil to Samus.

I like Dark Samus as well but I really liked the Hunters more, one which survived and if you got 100% of all the upgrades in Prime 3 you see a cut scene.