[OOC] From Stardust, To Stardust

[Monkeypants]

So who was that rex fellow. Asta has been in the RP off and on Samebito is in the Andromeda counterpart so their opinions can count. Rex just swoops in out of nowhere. Has he/she been here before?

[NacNak]

Just, tone it down a bit. Take a stern gander at the other player applications for an approximate idea on where the setting sits in terms of power scale.

@ASTA

I did, and some have anti-matter beams that can cut clean through entire ships DX *sniff* .... r-right... I'll see what I can do...

[rextremendum]

[as for who I am, I heard the cry of shitty science and answered it. I come and go with the wind, going only where I am needed. I'll probably make an app soon] ANTI MATTER BEAMS? FORTY KEKS GOY.I don't know what the fuck that is for one, I am imagining a squirt gun shooting antimatter at some other ship. Let's forget for a second that antimatter is a particle, not some sort of EM radiation that can be "beamed", I suppose the fucking clod means spraying antimatter at a ship. And while that would work, and be fucking effective, why not just USE antimatter to shoot things really fast at the enemy ship. Antimatter is a very powerful thing, and the mechanism for shooting at ships would probably be so fucking obtuse and large, not to mention who knows how slow the antimatter would go [antimatter is also much harder to produce than some bits of metal or plutonium to shoot at the enemies, so while being less efficient theoretically if all the antimatter connected, it would be more ergonomic]. Also, anti-hydrogen or some sort of anti-plasma would be gasses or maybe liquids. WHO KNOWS HOW GASSES BEHAVE IN A VACUUM? OH YEAH, THEY FUCKING SPREAD OUT DUE TO BROWNIAN MOTION. Also, lets imagine for a second you could get antimatter going fast enough to be viable in space combat, and then lets imagine it goes in a beam, all that you will get is a big fucking explosion, not some sort of neat cut. And another thing: "Oh wow, these people have big anti-ship weapons that are really good. My only recourse is something that will REMOVE PLANETS FROM EXISTENCE." Good logic there. And another thing, fix your fucking cartridge sizes - every modern cartridge is way more than 2x longer than it is wide, and there are very good reasons for this. Maybe you should follow suit. Unless your guns are railguns, which I suspect they are, in which case you do not want your slugs to be very thick, seeing as ideally they would punch through armor and either explode or just mushroom out. Also, this would let you store loads more, and not have to use so much energy for the same anti-ship capabilities.

[null123]

Just remember nak, always make nations with story potential rather than being strongest and best. Take ducks iscandarians. Hardly any potential other than being biggest and most powerful. So other than an antagonist, there really wasn't much to do with them. (and I was right as every story involved the iscandarians fighting people) I mean, that goes for all including myself but i just figure its a good thing to voice!

@Monkeypants

Most of that fighting was not their fault, kinda of hard to write stories that do not involve war when half the people attacking you are literally races that exist solely to be aggressive.

[Monkeypants]

I really dislike your tone. I mean, its toxic Please cease with the insults, it just... Well.. Don't be a dick. Also, with antimatter beams, this is very.. Fantasy Sci fi. There's bound to be some odd stuff as this isn't heavily relativistic or realistic. (we..... Have a race of magic pony folks) Baby horse girl toys. But its what ever. Also, with antimatter. My second race uses beams but it doesn't cut stuff... It detonates against normal matter, the way god intended! I have a loose containment strategy, using grazers to create a vacuum tube for the antimatter to slide down without exploding on particles inside. It's not perfect science but it has a little more grounded approach. So please do not throw insults around at random people, no need for that kind of attitude. @duck, there are alot of aggressive species indeed but the iscandarians just have the evil empire vibe. And taking on all those races with ease. Hell, had the terrans not used the ultra fleet killer, they'd be dead too.

[Keyguyperson]

For every planet the R.Z.E colonize, a new one is made to defend it. These massive ships are 27,000 meters long, they have advanced state of the art heavy shielding and thick heavy armor. Their armed with a massive main gun that fires a 45 meter in diameter, 70 meter long rounds at 20% the speed of light, as well as 20 forward facing cannons that all fire a 20 meter in diameter, 40 meter long rounds at 10% the speed of light. 20,000 missile pods, 50,000 600mm point defense turrets, 6,000 rotating cannons (3,000 on each side of the ship) that fire 7 meter in diameter, 13 meter long rounds at 6% the speed of light

@ASTA

7 by 13 meter rounds? Let's assume that humans are all 2 meters high because fuck it I don't have time to do math with those weird misplaced periods (Seriously, those go at the end of sentences, not in-between numbers. God). If we assume this, then these rounds are 3 (Plus numbers behind one of those misplaced period things) people wide and 6 (Plus numbers behind one of those misplaced period things) people long. If we assume that a standard story is three meters high, we find that these rounds are 2 (Plus numbers behind one of those misplaced period things) stories wide and 4 (Plus numbers behind one of those misplaced period things) stories high. In other words, that's fucking ridiculous. I mean, I've made mistakes, but I never had a ship 27 kilometers long with 6,000 cannons that could each destroy a planet. I mean, I did have a FRIGATE that had eight or so cannons that could do that, so that's almost as bad, but I took my retcon hammer our and beat it to death.

[NacNak]

7 by 13 meter rounds? Let's assume that humans are all 2 meters high because fuck it I don't have time to do math with those weird misplaced periods (Seriously, those go at the end of sentences, not in-between numbers. God). If we assume this, then these rounds are 3 (Plus numbers behind one of those misplaced period things) people wide and 6 (Plus numbers behind one of those misplaced period things) people long. If we assume that a standard story is three meters high, we find that these rounds are 2 (Plus numbers behind one of those misplaced period things) stories wide and 4 (Plus numbers behind one of those misplaced period things) stories high. In other words, that's f*cking ridiculous. I mean, I've made mistakes, but I never had a ship 27 kilometers long with 6,000 cannons that could each destroy a planet.

@Keyguyperson

*is making changes to NS as this is typed*

[Monkeypants]

And by secondary race, I mean one that is quite op! But, I believe nations are made for plot rather than win. Thus the traders were born! Enough of my self centered semi defensive stance. I'll get a reply to the terrans and collective soon. Like I said before though, don't expect posts like I usually do. Hard to write good ones on this phone!

[null123]

I really dislike your tone. I mean, its toxic I have to agree with him on this, do be polite about your criticism. Cursing and calling them names is the biggest way to get yoursel labeled as a douche bag @duck, there are alot of aggressive species indeed but the iscandarians just have the evil empire vibe. And taking on all those races with ease. Hell, had the terrans not used the ultra fleet killer, they'd be dead too. They actually had allies, and even their wins came at the cost of huge losses.

@Monkeypants

[rextremendum]

Ah sorry Monkey - I didn't realize you at least had a soft science explanation. I only read his summary, because I am a lazy asshat who hates to do research.

[Monkeypants]

Ah sorry Monkey - I didn't realize you at least had a soft science explanation. I only read his summary, because I am a lazy asshat who hates to do research.

@rextremendum

Fair enough. Thank your for the apology and civility! Duck, every conflict I saw was you decimating enemies. Just what I saw. Anyway, hopefully the bronianempire will do a better job! Not being smack dab in the middle of the Rp plot will be good for you!

[Keyguyperson]

Ah sorry Monkey - I didn't realize you at least had a soft science explanation. I only read his summary, because I am a lazy asshat who hates to do research.

@rextremendum

Dammit. You apologize right after I write a really cheesy and embarrassing rousing speech calling us all to battle to fight off the evil hard sci-fi oppressor. I even fit a few jokes about Texas having terrible schools in there.

Ah sorry Monkey - I didn't realize you at least had a soft science explanation. I only read his summary, because I am a lazy asshat who hates to do research.

@rextremendum

Fair enough. Thank your for the apology and civility! Duck, every conflict I saw was you decimating enemies. Just what I saw. Anyway, hopefully the bronianempire will do a better job! Not being smack dab in the middle of the Rp plot will be good for you!

@Monkeypants

Don't expect much. Duck (And me before I decided to stop doing it, like, on Monday of this week) just loves to specify how many ships he brings to a fight, but never how many make it out. It's easier to avoid ever losing any ships ever that way. (In my defense, I did specify losses after New Condria, but that was a giant engagement and I needed to specify just how many thousands of people died in vain.)

[null123]

Actually, I did specify that most of the fleet was lost after the first Battle of Sol.

[NacNak]

*nervously fidgeting* so... I edited the NS... *looks up slowly* .... any better?... *lowers head slightly*

[rextremendum]

So Nac, what is the planet made of? Because if it is three times the size, it would have 1/9 of the gravity due to GM1M2/r^2. It must be heavy AS FUCK. Also, when you double the size of an animal it will need 2^2 times the diameter sized supports. This combined with three times earth's gravity either means these things are fucking walking slow tubs of meat that cannot more, or they have biologies so much better than any animal on earth it is fantastical. Besides that, the issue with something that big is that RKKV [Ricky V's, if you're fucking hardcore] are too easy, and they will obliterate large battleships, because the energy is going to get there at some point, and anything that can move between celestial bodies at anything approaching a convenient speed has enough energy to obliterate them. 1/2(mv^2) This right here fucks you over, and makes anything larger than a floating weapons platform worthless due to the sheer amount of energy being thrown around.

[rextremendum]

Also, Jesus Christ, you kept the Mecha? Those things with negligible maneuverability benefits, made needlessly large and complicated pathetic targets that are either too heavily armored to move or too lightly armored to be of any use at all. Ruthless inefficiencies aside, they are just strictly worse than tanks supporting infantry, which fulfills all roles needed in modern combat. The moral of the story is, in space, you are not going to get hit and live, at least not nearly reliably enough. So, you want the most boom for the least dollar. For example, strap an engine to a nuke, build a few hundred of them and win the space war for 5% of the enemy's expenditure, seeing as the things go at measurable fractions of lightspeed.

[rextremendum]

Also, why does your tank have to barrels? Unnecessary when there are auto loaders. 160mm is fucking ridiculous for a fin stabilized kinetic projectile, one that needs to go fast and penetrate super heavy armor. Also, why is the chassis so low to the ground? Good luck getting over debris and rough terrain without getting stuck like a fat infant.

[rextremendum]

A planetary defense cannon is fucking retarded, when you can have man-portable anti-orbit weapons that fire nuclear-tipped warheads from the roof of buildings to keep low orbit clear of hostiles. Instead, your nation decided to spend a trillion billion dollars on worthless anti-ship tanks that will miss a retarded % of the time, because of the lack of course correction. Also, good luck shooting lasers underwater. That'll go well. The fuck do those tubes go to on the shotgun? They're not even direct impingement, they're just bullshit. Why is your artillery piece so fucking massive when you could get the gun on a car-pulled trailer and move it around for a trillion dollars left. JESUS CHRIST 80MM MINIGUNS? that is fucking deafening! It is a fucking sound weapon at that point, and if those fucking beasts can stand upright while shooting them, I don't even want to fucking KNOW how strong they are.

[ASTA]

when you can have man-portable anti-orbit weapons that fire nuclear-tipped warheads from the roof of buildings to keep low orbit clear of hostiles

@rextremendum

[NacNak]

A planetary defense cannon is f*cking retarded, when you can have man-portable anti-orbit weapons that fire nuclear-tipped warheads from the roof of buildings to keep low orbit clear of hostiles. Instead, your nation decided to spend a trillion billion dollars on worthless anti-ship tanks that will miss a retarded % of the time, because of the lack of course correction. Also, good luck shooting lasers underwater. That'll go well. The f*ck do those tubes go to on the shotgun? They're not even direct impingement, they're just bullshit.

@rextremendum

1: the planetary defense cannons are made in case something gets past the orbital defense cannons, also, they don't have hand held nuclear-tipped warhead launchers, on that not nukes in atmosphere are bad, you know radiation and what not. =3 2: it's their money they's gonna spend it how they want it X3 and they have super computing A.I.'s for the anti-ship tanks for course correction =3 3: ... lasers don't work under water? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't, after all the only example I have of lasers working under water is from starwars XD 4: they just there because meh, they make it look different =3 *edit

Why is your artillery piece so f*cking massive when you could get the gun on a car-pulled trailer and move it around for a trillion dollars left. JESUS CHRIST 80MM MINIGUNS? that is f*cking deafening! It is a f*cking sound weapon at that point, and if those f*cking beasts can stand upright while shooting them, I don't even want to f*cking KNOW how strong they are.

@rextremendum

1: having it on a car pulled trailer would cost less, but there are big animals on alien worlds that can rush a small car with an artillery trailer and crush it.. 2: .... really big animals X3