[OOC] Heroes of Beacon - the Next Chapter

[Lugubrious]

Uh, sure, Prince. I'll initiate with Ni, and then that will be all sixth periods started, and everyone who wants to post for sixth hour may do so.

I know how posting works forgive me if it isn't my best but it was a rush job, this is not my only focus I wanted to get a post in before I was warned pm to make a post or be left behind. Forgive me if I seem frustrated

@Jangel13

I didn't actually say that, and I apologize if I gave off that impression. Take as much time as you need to get your post shipshape.

Hi there, @Awesomoman64. I see you watching.

[shadowkiller912]

Please @Lugubrious for the love of all that is holy allow us to have at least some of sixth period rather than just bypassing it with a teachers post.

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In a million years Sapphire's not going to stand for this. She didn't enlist in music class in order to join the school band, if she had wanted to join the school band she would have done so. Sapphire joined music class in order to increase her abilities as a violinist and a singer. If Shadow tried this IC in a setting where we were all allowed to participate then it would set off a full blown fight between the teacher and Sapphire which isn't something that Shadow can just skate over in one IC post.

There is of course also the fact that Sapphire can't sight read which was also glossed over. She plays music by ear not by sheet music.

@Prince of Seraphs

You do know that she still is a Violinist and that does not negate her playing the violin. This music class is a Symphonic Band/Jazz Band class. I even mentioned it a long time ago. If you are pissed off then RP some sort of class of her improving her abilities.

Well the way I was setting up the band was specifically as a Concert Band.

(http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/75870-heroes-of-beacon-the-next-chapter/ooc?page=86#post-2464383)

And what did I do? I did not do anything else with the other students except accommodate Sapphire Violinist who could be accommodated into the band by playing the Double Bass.

[Guess Who]

Noooo! What have I done? I've gone and created an interest check for an RP! Well, too late to do anything about it now, might as well shamelessly advertise it. Here you go: http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/79611-metaops-project-god-complex/ooc. Huh? What's it about? Basically, superheroes going on black ops missions for the government. Hope to see some familiar faces, 'cause this will be my first time GMing and I'll probably need all the help I can get.

[Lady Seraphina]

Ignoring that fact that that was part of an argument of the way the Music class was organized then that never got resolved the double bass and the violin are not as linked as you seem to believe. With a bit of effort and work a violinist could transition to a cello but the double bass is completely different. The bass has much lower strings which are tuned in fourths instead of fifths like the violin, viola, and cello. It's like trying to add two fractions with different denominators, it does not compute properly without some major modifications. The double bass isn't actually part of the violin family. The double bass is the last remaining members of another family of instruments from several hundred years ago. They have similar designs and the double bass is often mistaken as part of the violin family but there designs and styles are radically different. Not to mention that the double bass serves a completely different function in music compared to a violin. Violin's play ahead of the beat, while the double bass plays behind the beat, it's an altogether different play style. Look transitioning someone from the violin to the double bass is not as easy as one might assume just by looking at the two instruments. It's like teaching someone who drives an automatic car to use a stick shift. You might as well teach her a completely different instrument cause she would have to learn a completely different set of rules and habits if she was to take up the double bass. Oh and as a bonus the standard form of playing the Double Bass for Jazz Band is called pizzicato which involves plucking the strings of the instrument with your fingers rather than using a bow, another thing that Sapphire has no training in.

And this isn't about my character but you can't make a distinction between Choir and Concert Band when looking at your students when your class is titled 'Music' and there was no indication to the students that it was a band class at all.

[Jangel13]

changed

[shadowkiller912]

Ignoring that fact that that was part of an argument of the way the Music class was organized then that never got resolved the double bass and the violin are not as linked as you seem to believe. With a bit of effort and work a violinist could transition to a cello but the double bass is completely different. The bass has much lower strings which are tuned in fourths instead of fifths like the violin, viola, and cello. It's like trying to add two fractions with different denominators, it does not compute properly without some major modifications. The double bass isn't actually part of the violin family. The double bass is the last remaining members of another family of instruments from several hundred years ago. They have similar designs and the double bass is often mistaken as part of the violin family but there designs and styles are radically different. Not to mention that the double bass serves a completely different function in music compared to a violin. Violin's play ahead of the beat, while the double bass plays behind the beat, it's an altogether different play style. Look transitioning someone from the violin to the double bass is not as easy as one might assume just by looking at the two instruments. It's like teaching someone who drives an automatic car to use a stick shift. You might as well teach her a completely different instrument cause she would have to learn a completely different set of rules and habits if she was to take up the double bass. Oh and as a bonus the standard form of playing the Double Bass for Jazz Band is called pizzicato which involves plucking the strings of the instrument with your fingers rather than using a bow, another thing that Sapphire has no training in.

And this isn't about my character but you can't make a distinction between Choir and Concert Band when looking at your students when your class is titled 'Music' and there was no indication to the students that it was a band class at all.

@Prince of Seraphs

I know that their are different styles which is why she would be learning it along with the help from Zywie though her also having to do her part in learning it. I'm just trying to do my best to accommodate Sapphire in this despite my little knowledge on stringed instruments and how no one in the class cared to take heed to notice on how it was going to be a concert band class.

Uh its a Concert/Jazz Band class which would be a music class.

I indicated it to the others about a month ago it was going to be a Concert Band class and later merged to be a Jazz Band class but only a few took notice.

@LugubriousTBH should we even have 6th period classes and optional classes it seems useless and too much and could be better off RPed by the characters if they choose to RP the class or have 6th period classes on one day of the week.

[Kaithas]

Time flies when you have stomach issues and homework. Have I really been gone for ten days? God. I'm sorry... I see that Lug already got something up for Ni, so... i guess I'll cancel what I had planned.

Anyway.

peace out, I should have legitimate posts up tomorrow.

[Lugubrious]

Much obliged, Jangel.

We will have a short dedication time to sixth hour, shadow. While people are doing that over the course of the next day or two, the two of us ought to complete our collab.

My apologies, Kaithas. I'm just happy to see you've persevered through your troubles and returned.

[Lady Seraphina]

I know that their are different styles which is why she would be learning it along with the help from Zywie though her also having to do her part in learning it. I'm just trying to do my best to accommodate Sapphire in this despite my little knowledge on stringed instruments and how no one in the class cared to take heed to notice on how it was going to be a concert band class.

Uh its a Concert/Jazz Band class which would be a music class.

I indicated it to the others about a month ago it was going to be a Concert Band class and later merged to be a Jazz Band class but only a few took notice.

@LugubriousTBH should we even have 6th period classes and optional classes it seems useless and too much and could be better off RPed by the characters if they choose to RP the class or have 6th period classes on one day of the week.

@shadowkiller912

Different styles doesn't even begin to cover it, you might as well ask her to learn guitar or piano cause at least those new instruments wouldn't cause problems in her violin playing by introducing playing styles that directly contradict each other.

Yes indeed a few took notice and all of them told you it was bad idea. Besides as far as the school is concerned your class was registered as music giving the students no indication that it was so completely narrow minded in teaching method. You're not trying to accommodate Sapphire at all, accommodating her would involve teacher her the instrument she came to learn. What your trying to do is alter her function because you don't have the knowledge or the experience to know how to actually deal with a violin player. What would you have done if Merlin was still present in the RP? After all he was a violinist same as Sapphire.

Oh and welcome back @Kaithas, I'm glad to hear your troubles are clearing up.

[shadowkiller912]

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Yes indeed a few took notice and all of them told you it was bad idea. Besides as far as the school is concerned your class was registered as music giving the students no indication that it was so completely narrow minded in teaching method. You're not trying to accommodate Sapphire at all, accommodating her would involve teacher her the instrument she came to learn. What your trying to do is alter her function because you don't have the knowledge or the experience to know how to actually deal with a violin player. What would you have done if Merlin was still present in the RP? After all he was a violinist same as Sapphire.

@Prince of Seraphs

No one ever said that...at all. If they did I would take heed of it and try something else but nope. All I see is you saying that its a bad idea.

You know what fuck it. Honestly I've been trying to be nice to you especially how hostile and mean you responded to me on my music teacher character sheet over the fucking semblance and originally when I announced the class was going to be Symphonic band class. I am trying my best to RP this but you always respond to me this. Since this matter so much to you, why not you take over and RP the class because I do not give a fuck anymore about.

[Lugubrious]

Holy cow I had not realized that there was such drama going on. Reading over the previous posts gives me a pretty good indication how downhill this argument has gotten. Debate I can respect, but even before the culmination this has become entirely unsatisfactory. This isn't the first time you've clashed, and I didn't comment on it then, but this resentment has gone on too far. Prince, you could try a lot harder to be less abrasive, and shadow, you could do with being more flexible.

If the two of you fail to work out a resolution without being civil, and that goes for both of you, I'm eliminating music class altogether, one of you is losing your GM status, and the other is going to find yourself playing a lot less than the music teacher.

[harinezumikouken]

So... is practice moving on too, then?

@SevenStormStyle

Sorry, with Kaithas being sick and busy and my own life a bit of a hectic mess, I've been unable to keep Practice going to completion. Actually, I'm gonna try and push out a quick wrap up post right now to tie up any loose ends to make it easier to transition to the next period so we can keep this circus going.

[Awesomoman64]

Hi there, @Awesomoman64. I see you watching.

@Lugubrious

This made me laugh XD

I'm actually here pretty much once or twice a day, i just get logged off and don't log back in unless posting. Sorry if I made you think I was losing interest as well, I feel quite the opposite actually. While were still in the slowish setup phase, I just makes me more and more eager to see how some of the character/story arcs start to rise and unfold.

[Lugubrious]

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This made me laugh XD

I'm actually here pretty much once or twice a day, i just get logged off and don't log back in unless posting. Sorry if I made you think I was losing interest as well, I feel quite the opposite actually. While were still in the slowish setup phase, I just makes me more and more eager to see how some of the character/story arcs start to rise and unfold.

@Awesomoman64

Cool.

[Lady Seraphina]

Holy cow I had not realized that there was such drama going on. Reading over the previous posts gives me a pretty good indication how downhill this argument has gotten. Debate I can respect, but even before the culmination this has become entirely unsatisfactory. This isn't the first time you've clashed, and I didn't comment on it then, but this resentment has gone on too far. Prince, you could try a lot harder to be less abrasive, and shadow, you could do with being more flexible.

If the two of you fail to work out a resolution without being civil, and that goes for both of you, I'm eliminating music class altogether, one of you is losing your GM status, and the other is going to find yourself playing a lot less than the music teacher.

@Lugubrious

I do believe I owe @Shadowkiller912 an apology. Not for the argument, I still think I'm right you could stand to reorganize the music class. The apology is for the manor in which this argument has been unfolding. When I'm involved in an argument about something I'm passionate about I have a tendency especially online where tone doesn't come through to sound offensive. I've got a great love of music and the fiddle is one of my favorite instrument which I don't like to see disregarded. All I've seen since this began is you trying to make things easier on yourself at the expense of everyone else. For not trying to see your point of view on this matter and for letting this get out of hand I am truly sorry.

For the record, not assigning blame to anyone, but regarding the semblance argument with your teacher character. That was me attempting to solve what I saw a logistics problem. It had nothing to do with you or your character but me trying to rationalize what I saw as a glaring inconsistency. I became brusque and if I'm being honest rather graceless after a logical answer was not given to me and instead I was told several times that 'it just worked'. It was nothing to do with you specifically Shadow, I could just as easily have had the same argument with any of the other cast members.

[harinezumikouken]

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Cool.

@Lugubrious

[shadowkiller912]

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I do believe I owe @Shadowkiller912 an apology. Not for the argument, I still think I'm right you could stand to reorganize the music class. The apology is for the manor in which this argument has been unfolding. When I'm involved in an argument about something I'm passionate about I have a tendency especially online where tone doesn't come through to sound offensive. I've got a great love of music and the fiddle is one of my favorite instrument which I don't like to see disregarded. All I've seen since this began is you trying to make things easier on yourself at the expense of everyone else. For not trying to see your point of view on this matter and for letting this get out of hand I am truly sorry.

For the record, not assigning blame to anyone, but regarding the semblance argument with your teacher character. That was me attempting to solve what I saw a logistics problem. It had nothing to do with you or your character but me trying to rationalize what I saw as a glaring inconsistency. I became brusque and if I'm being honest rather graceless after a logical answer was not given to me and instead I was told several times that 'it just worked'. It was nothing to do with you specifically Shadow, I could just as easily have had the same argument with any of the other cast members.

@Prince of Seraphs

@Prince of Seraphs

Accepted. Though I admit that I have been stubborn on this matter. Naturally I am stubborn and I should see this in a more general open level for everyone. I took the music class on the viewpoint of a Symphonic band member to which I was making the class seem too realistic for anyone that never played music before, thus being stubborn on it. Sorry for acting as an elitist.

I tend not to try to take debates on things in RPing too seriously as I do not want to involve myself into something that will I tend not to try to take debates on things in RPing too seriously as I do not want to involve myself into something that will affect my mood.

We can reorganize the music class to being more general as a class for students wishing to improve their music skills.

[Eklispe]

Yay resolution of conflict. :)

[Sho Minazuki]

Can I pretend I'm here until things calm down? I've lost track of everything.

[MULTI_MEDIA_MAN]

Can I pretend I'm here until things calm down? I've lost track of everything.

@Sho Minazuki

I'm not sure if we're doing 6th period posts or not and at this point I'm too afraid to ask.

...fuck.