[OOC] Heroes of Beacon - the Next Chapter

[NaraK]

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I totally didn't watch that far, having now done it what does Qrow having Ozpin's cane say about the Headmaster's fate?

@Prince of Seraphs

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got rekt

[Lady Seraphina]

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I'm sure if he had found a body he wouldn't keep it a secret from everyone. Also, that new antagonist being played by Jen Taylor kept referring to Ozpin. I think he's still alive at the very least, though I can't be sure he's in good health.

@Guess Who

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I don't think he's dead, he went toe to toe with the Fall Maiden and held his own. We didn't even see her land a hit that did any damage so very easily she may only have wounded him forcing him to escape.

I'd say that Qrow having his cane though means that Qrow is responsible for Beacon's fate now.

[MULTI_MEDIA_MAN]

SPOILERS

Pyrrha's dead. Yang's out for the count. Weiss is firmly under the thumb of Papa Schnee and high-tailing it to Atlas. Jaune is once again proving that while he may not be strong, he's not going down. Ren and Nora have licked their wounds and are ready to give a licking.

Ozpin is gone, possibly dead. Ruby is probably the Winter Maiden in a thoroughly frustrating reveal. I get that it was a moment of true "We fucked, son" and if any moment was going to bring out the apparently latent power in Ruby, that would be it, but it was still a deus ex machina like Raven's arrival. Dropping a very minor hint that could have realistically meant nothing to the grander plot does not change that.

And Salem. That monster. The only word I have to describe her. A real monster. I'm betting a Maiden corrupted by one of those "Possession-Type" Grimm the manga so lovingly introduced.

All in all, I'd give it a 6.5/10. Answered the hype, but did so in the fashion of RWBY: with a story that really just...could be done better.

But I still liked it.

Oh god.

OH GOD. THIS IS IT. THIS IS WHAT BREAKS ME. Someone on the RWBY subreddit pointed out that Pyrrha will never get to see Jaune's Semblance.

I am actually crying now...

[Lady Seraphina]

SPOILERS

Pyrrha's dead. Yang's out for the count. Weiss is firmly under the thumb of Papa Schnee and high-tailing it to Atlas. Jaune is once again proving that while he may not be strong, he's not going down. Ren and Nora have licked their wounds and are ready to give a licking.

Ozpin is gone, possibly dead. Ruby is probably the Winter Maiden in a thoroughly frustrating reveal. I get that it was a moment of true "We fucked, son" and if any moment was going to bring out the apparently latent power in Ruby, that would be it, but it was still a deus ex machina like Raven's arrival. Dropping a very minor hint that could have realistically meant nothing to the grander plot does not change that.

And Salem. That monster. The only word I have to describe her. A real monster. I'm betting a Maiden corrupted by one of those "Possession-Type" Grimm the manga so lovingly introduced.

All in all, I'd give it a 6.5/10. Answered the hype, but did so in the fashion of RWBY: with a story that really just...could be done better.

But I still liked it.

@MULTI_MEDIA_MAN

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Granted the Silver Eyed Warrior could have been introduced more organically and been hinted at throughout the volume rather than just suddenly just solving everything at the very end. Still I think it was well done though I still sort of wish we'd seen a Pyrrha Vs Cinder Partial Fall Maidens fighting for the remaining power type battle. Might have worked better if Pyrrha having some of the Fall's maiden's power had essentially lost that battle and in the hour of need Ruby's Silver Eyed ability had manifested to charge Pyrrha's powers and give her the ability to best Cinder but then arguing on the different paths a story could take is an infinite and meaningless debate.

I did really enjoy it but you're right, some parts could have been handled with more finesse. Like some of the character's exits. It would have been more meaningful had we gotten to see Blake's departure or see her secretly outside Ruby's house making sure they are actually alright before finally leaving them.

[Ayazi]

*Accidentally clicks on a spoiler, decides to read all the spoilers anyway since it ruined the surprise for me*

[MULTI_MEDIA_MAN]

*Accidentally clicks on a spoiler, decides to read all the spoilers anyway since it ruined the surprise for me*

@Ayazi

I'm so sorry....

Suffer with us

[Awesomoman64]

*looks at all the discussion on finale. Still hasn't watched it yet.*

Fuck it. YOLO right?

*clicks spoilers.*

[Guess Who]

Spoilers

Well, they got half of their wish.

[NaraK]

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Well, they got half of their wish.

@Guess Who

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the other half got disintegrated :D

[Crimmy]

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the other half got disintegrated :D

@NarayanK

Hider

Yeah any chance of that ship coming back has been burnt to cinders.

It's just ash now.

[Lugubrious]

Well, I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't this.

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Although, I did predict correctly that we'd see Taiyang in episode 12, but I thought it would be in a Big Heroes moment and not post-action. The distinction between Winter Maiden power and Silver-Eye Warrior is bugging me.

Even after the kiss between Jaune and Pyrrha, I wasn't daring to think that Pyrrha would be sacrificing herself. Even in the fight she was doing well, giving me hope that she wouldn't by dying, but ultimately my hopes were dashed. Pyrrha's death strikes me a lot harder than Penny's did. The entire situation with Jaune is terribly sad, but I'm glad to see he hasn't shut down like Yang has. Did anyone else get a Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince vibe? Terrible tragedy has fallen upon the school; the headmaster is out of the picture (though possibly not dead? No confirmation, and Salem did appear to be talking to him in the end) and the heroes have left to try and solve things on their own. Of course, by heroes I'm referring to Ruby, jaune, Ren, and Nora, who've lost so much. This finale did leave a lot of loose ends -I personally would have liked to see even a short clip of Mercury, Neo, Emerald, Ironwood, and possibly other students- but overall I'd say it was good--if 'good' is taken into account alongside 'hurts a lot'.

Qrow's semblance is interesting because of its retroactive implications. How many crows have we seen throughout the series? Is Raven's semblance similar, given the potential though rare status of semblances as hereditary? Naturally, I'm wondering what Salem's connection is to Ozpin and Pyrrha. I'm not one for denial, but I would like to see Pyrrha again, not necessarily alive, but in an impactful role on the plot regardless, somewhat like Dumbledore in Deathly Hallows.

[Lady Seraphina]

Spoilers... Sort of

I finally got around to watching the Four Maidens info clip on Rooster Teeth and while we've been given a lot of information on the Four Maidens and how their power is passed from generation to generation something occurred to me. Do we know anything about the Wizard that gave the Four Maidens their power. The Four Maidens have been the only trace of what could be called magic in the Remnant Universe so it stands to reason that the one who created this power is probably one of a kind that being the case the Wizard could very easily be immortal.

Making that assumption who is it in the series that has been looking after the Fall Maiden and making sure her power is not used for evil as it was a power bestowed to help people. It would stand to reason that the Wizard would wish to make sure that the powers he put out into the world were not abused. The obvious answer would be that the Wizard is in fact Ozpin. Think about it they're both old, wise (Dumbledore-esque) and Ozpin was able to withstand the powers of the fall maiden. Think about it, had Cinder actually killed Ozpin that would have been a huge victory (plus killing him off screen and not making a big deal out of it is just bad story telling). Cinder would more than likely have made that known to everyone to break morale. So if Cinder didn't kill Ozpin and Ozpin didn't defeat her the conclusion to be drawn would be that she ran away from him. What would the Fall Maiden with all her power have to be frightened of? Perhaps the one person in all of Remnant that knows more about her powers than she does.

[Suku]

all of this is all well and good but is it possible for some posts from my team?

[Silvan Haven]

I don't like the show anymore.

[Forsythe]

spoiler alert

I was expecting Ruby to have some kind of a power hidden away, but if this is YET ANOTHER thing, then... yeah, what the others that hated this said. I am getting fed up with the 'writing' K&M are doing. Normally you end up with A cliffhanger. They ened don like... ten of them. Very uncool.

@Qrow: Did we know his semblance? Perhaps turning into the crow is his one.

The character exits are fucked up all over, when they are even there. Two best villains get written off because "They were never supposed to be this big", the other half of the henchmen doesn't get anything whatsoever. I would understand not showing what happened to Cinder, though form the "flashback" episode, she seems to be reporting to someone - leads me to wonder whether she had any part in planning the events at all, or whether it was all creepy lady at the ending.

Weiss jsut getitng spirited away after all of the "I'm not like my father" binge better have a very good explanation in S4E1. I hope fucking K&M Don't fuck up my favorite character too.

AND WHY COULDN'T JAUNE HANG HIMSELF IN GRIEF? T_T

Long story short: Here's hoping AU fanfics are as good as ever.

[harinezumikouken]

[Lady Seraphina]

spoiler alert

I was expecting Ruby to have some kind of a power hidden away, but if this is YET ANOTHER thing, then... yeah, what the others that hated this said. I am getting fed up with the 'writing' K&M are doing. Normally you end up with A cliffhanger. They ened don like... ten of them. Very uncool.

@Qrow: Did we know his semblance? Perhaps turning into the crow is his one.

The character exits are fucked up all over, when they are even there. Two best villains get written off because "They were never supposed to be this big", the other half of the henchmen doesn't get anything whatsoever. I would understand not showing what happened to Cinder, though form the "flashback" episode, she seems to be reporting to someone - leads me to wonder whether she had any part in planning the events at all, or whether it was all creepy lady at the ending.

Weiss jsut getitng spirited away after all of the "I'm not like my father" binge better have a very good explanation in S4E1. I hope fucking K&M Don't fuck up my favorite character too.

AND WHY COULDN'T JAUNE HANG HIMSELF IN GRIEF? T_T

Long story short: Here's hoping AU fanfics are as good as ever.

@Forsythe

Spoilers... Not really anymore

Do we not like Jaune for some reason? I mean he's not the best fighter compared to anyone else but he's sort of everyone's emotional rock. He always gets back up and he's always their for whoever needs him.

Also in that last scene with Pyrrha and Jaune the moment I saw the locker in the background I knew someone was going to get shoved into it.

Just out of curiosity are the powers of each Maiden only active during their respective season?

[Forsythe]

give it at least a week

Jaune is a boring character that gets way too much screen time for what he's worth. BOth Pyrrha and Nora were more entertaining, and Ren at least wasn't shoved into half of the total running time.

[Lady Seraphina]

give it at least a week

Jaune is a boring character that gets way too much screen time for what he's worth. BOth Pyrrha and Nora were more entertaining, and Ren at least wasn't shoved into half of the total running time.

@Forsythe

a week then

That's fair. I think he's important to the story but you are right he does get far more screen time than is strictly necessary or really a good idea for the storytellers. I wouldn't want him written out though.

[HereComesTheSnow]

not much that can be posted unless we wanna do an argument about how it's not actually that dark in there