[OOC] Fourth Dimension

[Teknonick]

Pageclaim.

[RawrgnatheBloodfridge]

Last resort we reset and make RPing a competition. "We will only accept FIVE RPers! Each one will make ONE character app to prove they get a spot. Those who get in, get to make more characters. After the RP has started, and if people leave, we will allow more to join in and replace." or something like that. I don't want to go down that path... but we might have to if we can't clean this up.

@Teknonick

Does that, or doesn't that include us? Alright, operation C.L.E.A.N.U.P. is underway then.

@RawrgnatheBloodfridge

It includes ya'll and myself. Me, 1. You, 2. Unraveller, 3. I know the three of us get our spots instantly, no doubt about it. Everyone else would be thrown into a pit and forced to fight!

Man, I'm really hoping this RP won't go downhill, I have to much interest in the concept.

@Unraveller

I'm so glad you're still interested! Yeah, by the way, this is 100% unusual. The other time this happened to an RP I had, I wasn't around for a full week... with 10x more posts, and 10x less people. The RP died horribly, and I never knew what happened while I was gone. I hope eventually everyone will become casually normal, with very slight weird things happening. Possibly the gauntlets get destroyed, but a weaker prototype version of them are found, and will become replacements. The twins get thrown in jail, or have their arms chopped off. Things will calm down, hopefully soon. I hope we can salvage this RP, rather than demolish it and start over. But, I will start over if that is what it takes, which I don't think so at this point.

@Teknonick

well the gauntlets would not necessarily need to be destroyed as Rose would not use them on anything other then the 4D monsters expect for this instance where she used them on the other people but that was intended to stun as they where fare away and in another room the wave would have hat to travel a long distance and go though a wall witch is why she amped up the intensity Kristof only ended up in that state because he was fast enough to get closer to Rose while she was calibrating them because he took the brunt of it. That being said bare in mind while the focused in one direction it was not focused at one target or in a straight line it was focused in the general direction so it would hit everyone and the explanation of how strong the sound waves where was they would hear a high pitched noise that would sound just like nails on a chalkboard but much louder. Now i you have ever heard what nails on a chalkboard it is a horrible screeching but not all that loud amp up the volume you amp up the frequency as well but even though it was much louder because it started of as something as low level as nails on a chalkboard it would not be all that deadly unless you where very close to it. Even than it would not kill most people maybe some people who where more fragile like elderly or kids.

@PharaohAtem

The question is, what stops her from doing it again? her morality clearly didn't stop her from doing it once, so she'll likely do it again. It doesn't matter how sane the person is that wields it, because this just means that it will one-shot the monsters then, which is boring AF. It's way too OP on a PvP perspective, and it's still OP in a PvC encounter. A weaker version is absolutely required when this encounter is done with. What if a mentally unstable person just takes it? Everyone's dead then. It's much too OP.

[Teknonick]

Exactly Ragna. The new version (Or old, should I say) would probably be a more 'focused' version, one that has to be actually targeted. So, you can't just say "Auto-target world" you would have to aim your hand at what your're shooting at. The biggest problem we're going to have with these monsters is their movement. Weapons that can hit everywhere at once, instantly defeats them, as it would never miss. That's boring, so we'll say for the sake of the RP that that type of technology is so powerful, it might end up destroying themselves due to the shear impossibility of the universe's physics. BTW, how do I add a little ribbon to all your posts to say Co-GM?

[PharaohAtem]

WAIT WHAT???

@Pie Flavor

Where did you come from? You sound familiar.... Ugh. I don't even remember who's who now. :/

well the gauntlets would not necessarily need to be destroyed as Rose would not use them on anything other then the 4D monsters expect for this instance where she used them on the other people but that was intended to stun as they where fare away and in another room the wave would have hat to travel a long distance and go though a wall witch is why she amped up the intensity Kristof only ended up in that state because he was fast enough to get closer to Rose while she was calibrating them because he took the brunt of it. That being said bare in mind while the focused in one direction it was not focused at one target or in a straight line it was focused in the general direction so it would hit everyone and the explanation of how strong the sound waves where was they would hear a high pitched noise that would sound just like nails on a chalkboard but much louder. Now i you have ever heard what nails on a chalkboard it is a horrible screeching but not all that loud amp up the volume you amp up the frequency as well but even though it was much louder because it started of as something as low level as nails on a chalkboard it would not be all that deadly unless you where very close to it. Even than it would not kill most people maybe some people who where more fragile like elderly or kids.

@PharaohAtem

Well, the point is that it's OP. If it's that powerful, it actually would deal with the monsters like they're nothing, since this weapon seems to hit every single entity within earshot. That in turn, then makes all of our characters extremely weak. We are now left with a few choices: Make the monsters stronger, so your weapon doesn't effect them as much. Problem? Our characters now die instantly. Option two: We buff up all of our characters. Problem? We have to change our character's stories, or hand them other uber weapons. But, what's the point of these super uber weapons, if our characters are no longer special, since anyone could use them to defeat the monsters?

@Teknonick

well thats good point but you are forgetting a few things 1 even though they can hit everything that is a strength and a massive weakness if it was just her fight them she could let lose but if she did that with other people around they die to this would also kill her if she was not careful 2 they work by producing sound waves controlling their frequency and vibration this way of attacking could already be somewhat ineffective against them for any number of reasons without making them harder for the other to kill and to be honest considering when I explained roughly how they work and said they could be OP and you said it was fine I thought that was the case 3 even though she can locate them with sound you have mentioned how fast they could move and how hard it could be to keep track of them this would make if very hard to hit them with a highly focused blast of sound that would not hit anyone else that being said if you still think they are OP I don't mind getting rid of them.

[RawrgnatheBloodfridge]

Exactly Ragna. The new version (Or old, should I say) would probably be a more 'focused' version, one that has to be actually targeted. So, you can't just say "Auto-target world" you would have to aim your hand at what your're shooting at. The biggest problem we're going to have with these monsters is their movement. Weapons that can hit everywhere at once, instantly defeats them, as it would never miss. That's boring, so we'll say for the sake of the RP that that type of technology is so powerful, it might end up destroying themselves due to the shear impossibility of the universe's physics. BTW, how do I add a little ribbon to all your posts to say Co-GM?

@Teknonick

You imagine it from within a box, and it magically appears. And, if we did keep said gauntlets at the same power, that would mean we'd need to up the difficulty of the beasts, making it so that the normal people have no chance against them. When you add OP weapons, the monsters need to be more powerful. When the monsters are more powerful, people without OP weapons are screwed on the spot. You must take into account that there are people who will not be using your weapon. So you need to make it more balanced so that the beasts need not be impossible for them to kill. Okay. 1. This can still be used to kill other people, and like I said, if someone takes it, everyone's dead. 2. You did not explain it in this detail earlier. I assumed organic matter wouldn't be as severely effected as buildings. Because if it can take down buildings and organic matter the same way, nothing stands a chance against it. 3. You can just shoot literally everywhere while backed up against a wall, and because their jump points are completely random, eventually you would get them.

[Unraveller]

I guess the idea of a building collapsing sound wave generator that fits in the palm of your hand, well, is your hand should have been taken under a microscope for sheer destructive capabilities.

[RawrgnatheBloodfridge]

I guess the idea of a building collapsing sound wave generator that fits in the palm of your hand, well, is your hand should have been taken under a microscope for sheer destructive capabilities.

@Unraveller

That's why I was expecting them to look more like this.

Big flipping Gorilla Arms

If the thing's a prototype, then why can such power be loaded into such a teeny thing?

[Teknonick]

Okay. Well, let's get into a few "What if" scenarios. Number 1: If Rose drops it. What if these monsters are smart enough to pick it up, and use it? Everyone's dead, instantly. Or at least paralyzed, then killed right after as they keep using it. Number 2: Maybe Rose goes to bed, and a monster appears right there. They grab it. Thee end, the whole building is blown away! Number 3: Some new bad guy get's a hold of it. Perhaps Rose turns evil... who knows, it's an RP, many different situations can happen. All it takes is one bad guy who doesn't care about it effecting absolutely everyone, and then blam, everyone is injured, or paralyzed, then either dying or about to be dead. They work right now, because of it is a specifically controlled environment. But, they could... say... collapse after their usage, as they hadn't been fully tested yet. In the end, I think you might need a smaller, but still similar, weapon that could be used. I still plan on outfitting our characters with weapons, and what goes on here (AKA, she can use the weapon now for this upcoming fight, before it falls apart) might influence the designs going on for our characters in the background.

[PharaohAtem]

Exactly Ragna. The new version (Or old, should I say) would probably be a more 'focused' version, one that has to be actually targeted. So, you can't just say "Auto-target world" you would have to aim your hand at what your're shooting at. The biggest problem we're going to have with these monsters is their movement. Weapons that can hit everywhere at once, instantly defeats them, as it would never miss. That's boring, so we'll say for the sake of the RP that that type of technology is so powerful, it might end up destroying themselves due to the shear impossibility of the universe's physics. BTW, how do I add a little ribbon to all your posts to say Co-GM?

@Teknonick

well that is what she did the sound waves come out of her palm. Rose quickly put on the gauntlets and pressed a few buttons on the top calibrating them she then raised her left hand and pointed it in the direction of Kristof and the others she pointed it in their direction and the sound would have come out in about a 45 degree angle expanding outwards that would hit the hole room that the other are in and as for her morality it would stop her from doing it again she was raised by veterans of the military so she would have a mind set to protect people the mistake she made was not looking how close Kristof had gotten before firing it but that was because two reason one I never conceded he would move that fast and the two it hadn't happened yet.

[Teknonick]

Sadly folks, it's getting late for me. I know I'm going to head off to hit the hay, then when I return I'm going to see even more chaos. Please Ragna, save the day. I'm leaving you in charge. The entire fate of the RP rests in your giant gorilla hands....

[PharaohAtem]

ignor knocked post by mistake lol

[Teknonick]

Exactly Ragna. The new version (Or old, should I say) would probably be a more 'focused' version, one that has to be actually targeted. So, you can't just say "Auto-target world" you would have to aim your hand at what your're shooting at. The biggest problem we're going to have with these monsters is their movement. Weapons that can hit everywhere at once, instantly defeats them, as it would never miss. That's boring, so we'll say for the sake of the RP that that type of technology is so powerful, it might end up destroying themselves due to the shear impossibility of the universe's physics. BTW, how do I add a little ribbon to all your posts to say Co-GM?

@Teknonick

well that is what she did the sound waves come out of her palm. Rose quickly put on the gauntlets and pressed a few buttons on the top calibrating them she then raised her left hand and pointed it in the direction of Kristof and the others she pointed it in their direction and the sound would have come out in about a 45 degree angle expanding outwards that would hit the hole room that the other are in and as for her morality it would stop her from doing it again she was raised by veterans of the military so she would have a mind set to protect people the mistake she made was not looking how close Kristof had gotten before firing it but that was because two reason one I never conceded he would move that fast and the two it hadn't happened yet.

@PharaohAtem

Well, if you think about modern weapons, nothing shoots like that except for flamethrowers. And then even those can only hit things directly in front of them, and not from one end to the other end of a building. 45 degrees is a lot. A gun shoots straight, pretty much, and has to be aimed at it's target to hit. If let to spray... EVENTUALLY would have to 'reload' at some point. An RPG has to hit the target before exploding and causing mass destruction. By then, our enemies would have already moved out of the area, and most likely dodged the attack.

[Unraveller]

And I helped! At the very least, this prototype, as it were. Is in early testing phases and might as well fall apart and become unsalvageable junk within a couple uses

[RawrgnatheBloodfridge]

I am mentally unfit to deal with this right now. It's about 11:00 P.M. Over here, and as I've said before, I get contradictory and dumb as F*** when that rolls into town. I'm already spouting obscenities like an idiot, so it's best if I rest too. Hopefully come morning, after I have had time to take a shower and reflect on my stupidity today, I'll be able to mentally handle this. Unraveller for unofficial Co-GM.

[Unraveller]

I'm lazy and you are so much cooler than I!

@RawrgnatheBloodfridge

Well, I agree on both points of course, but don't pile this up on me!

[RawrgnatheBloodfridge]

I'm lazy and you are so much cooler than I!

@RawrgnatheBloodfridge

Well, I agree on both points of course, but don't pile this up on me!

@Unraveller

I hearby dictate with my Co-GM powers that it is Unravellers job to fix this all up! Good luck buddy!

[Unraveller]

I think I have a casserole in the oven, or rather one thousand casseroles, sorry they need to be attended to.

[RawrgnatheBloodfridge]

I think I have a casserole in the oven, or rather one thousand casseroles, sorry they need to be attended to.

@Unraveller

1000 casseroles

[PharaohAtem]

Exactly Ragna. The new version (Or old, should I say) would probably be a more 'focused' version, one that has to be actually targeted. So, you can't just say "Auto-target world" you would have to aim your hand at what your're shooting at. The biggest problem we're going to have with these monsters is their movement. Weapons that can hit everywhere at once, instantly defeats them, as it would never miss. That's boring, so we'll say for the sake of the RP that that type of technology is so powerful, it might end up destroying themselves due to the shear impossibility of the universe's physics. BTW, how do I add a little ribbon to all your posts to say Co-GM?

@Teknonick

You imagine it from within a box, and it magically appears. And, if we did keep said gauntlets at the same power, that would mean we'd need to up the difficulty of the beasts, making it so that the normal people have no chance against them. When you add OP weapons, the monsters need to be more powerful. When the monsters are more powerful, people without OP weapons are screwed on the spot. You must take into account that there are people who will not be using your weapon. So you need to make it more balanced so that the beasts need not be impossible for them to kill. Okay. 1. This can still be used to kill other people, and like I said, if someone takes it, everyone's dead. 2. You did not explain it in this detail earlier. I assumed organic matter wouldn't be as severely effected as buildings. Because if it can take down buildings and organic matter the same way, nothing stands a chance against it. 3. You can just shoot literally everywhere while backed up against a wall, and because their jump points are completely random, eventually you would get them.

@RawrgnatheBloodfridge

well strictly speaking I never intended organic matter to be effected in the same way if you remember the sources I quoted for this teck it was Shriek and pied piper both of them used them on organic matter and just stunned like the flash and batman and yes they could burst ear drums because it sound a loud enough sound can burst your ear drums the only way for them to kill them was to was to ever match the frequency to the specific like the pied piper didbut this required detailed medical records or to focus into at their head and bust brain cells but with a moving targets that level of precision would be impossible

[Unraveller]

Ha, I only see seven, checkmate.