Fate/Stay Night: The Revenge of Kyubey

[JohnWolff]

This is all... very fascinating, but I don't think it will really affect the RP much which war it is that's taking place in the actual story, right? :( Anyway, I would like to keep this thread to solely seek out interested parties, not become a full-length discussion of the lore (unless it affects the RP), if you don't mind.

[Guardian Angel Haruki]

I'm interested. ^_^

[JohnWolff]

I'm interested. ^_^

@Guardian Angel Haruki

Great! Thanks. ^_^ I'll wait for for three more interested parties to fill out the roles of the six Masters in the game (not including the one I'll personally play), but like I said, be prepared if this RP won't start for another week or so.

[Art of Fun]

@Silver That is rather clearly not the case. F/SF takes place in an alternate reality (it's canon, but only within the context of the multiverse) where the Grail was copied/stolen during the Third War. The absence of mention in every other F/SN game of this happening is in its self damning for the claim that its occurring in the same reality as the F/SN grail history, as that's a rather significant event. Besides, there is a precedent for it to be an alternate reality from the F/SN games, which are in themselves splintered. The 'what if' scenario, F/SF has no reason to be the exception from it. I'm interested.

[JohnWolff]

I'm interested.

@Art of Fun

Four down, two to go. ^_^

[The Silver Paladin]

Then Fate/Zero takes place in a different universe as well where the Grail was stolen and corrupted. Maybe the reason it's not mentioned, is because it's unknown that it's happening! Ever think of that?

[The Silver Paladin]

Alright, let's stop debating and just agree to disagree.

[Fish of Oblivion]

Then Fate/Zero takes place in a different universe as well where the Grail was stolen and corrupted. Maybe the reason it's not mentioned, is because it's unknown that it's happening! Ever think of that?

@The Silver Paladin

Sorry dude, the five Fuyuki Grail Wars are the only 'canon' ones. All the others are part of alternate universes with differing points of divergence and have very different mechanics. Main canon also says that there can't be any more Fuyuki Grail Wars after the Fifth, but I assume JohnWolff has an explanation for that (and even if not it's not difficult to work around). Also, looked over the details; definitely interested and willing to offer advice and practical knowledge if I do join, just need to check my schedule and have a rummage through my notes for stuff. Got a few Servant ideas already, though.

[RBYDark]

Ah, what the hey. A light rp will do some good. I might have some Caster or Assassin ideas.

[The Silver Paladin]

As log as it isn't archer, cause I'm using David as archer.

[JohnWolff]

Main canon also says that there can't be any more Fuyuki Grail Wars after the Fifth, but I assume JohnWolff has an explanation for that (and even if not it's not difficult to work around).

@Fish of Oblivion

Ah, I'm so embarrassed. I don't, actually. Sorry, but this is one of the first few RPs I've actually GMed (none of the past ones have ever been completed, so I'm really hoping this would be the first). Oh, riiiiight, I remember. The Holy Grail was destroyed in the F/SN VN upon the fifth war. But yeah, it's like Fish of Oblivion said, that can easily be worked around and rectified, especially with the Incubators involved (alien Holy Grail, for example).

Also, looked over the details; definitely interested and willing to offer advice and practical knowledge if I do join, just need to check my schedule and have a rummage through my notes for stuff. Got a few Servant ideas already, though.

@Fish of Oblivion

Cool. Can't wait.

Ah, what the hey. A light rp will do some good. I might have some Caster or Assassin ideas.

@RBYDark

Welcome on board. And that makes six. I might accept more entries by the time the OOC is up. I might have some other roles for you guys. Aside from the pressure of GMing an RP based on two franchises of this epic scale, this is coming along nicely. At least it's not an Evangelion RP, because that would've been really pressurising.

[RBYDark]

Oh god, then the previous discussion would've been 10 pages long before you came back. ...hey, wait, this war's still in Fuyuki city, right? Does that mean people can claim canon characters as Masters?

[Guardian Angel Haruki]

I have a question! For the servants...do the players control their servants (Player A controls Magi A and Servant A), or do other players control other players' servants (Player A controls Magi A and Servant B, while Player B controls Magi B and Servant A)? O_O

[The Silver Paladin]

I'd assume we will be paired up randomly.

[Fish of Oblivion]

I have a question! For the servants...do the players control their servants (Player A controls Magi A and Servant A), or do other players control other players' servants (Player A controls Magi A and Servant B, while Player B controls Magi B and Servant A)? O_O

@Guardian Angel Haruki

Other RP's I've been in, it's been one person making the Servant, another making the Master separately and then pairing them up based on personal choice/agreements etc.

[JohnWolff]

...hey, wait, this war's still in Fuyuki city, right? Does that mean people can claim canon characters as Masters?

@RBYDark

Yes. But not anything game-breaking or story-affecting without going through me first. :)

I have a question! For the servants...do the players control their servants (Player A controls Magi A and Servant A), or do other players control other players' servants (Player A controls Magi A and Servant B, while Player B controls Magi B and Servant A)? O_O

@Guardian Angel Haruki

Other RP's I've been in, it's been one person making the Servant, another making the Master separately and then pairing them up based on personal choice/agreements etc.

@Fish of Oblivion

That sounds like a better idea than what I had in mind. Let's go with that then. It will open up more spots for people to join anyway. Each of you will play one Master and/or Servant, totalling up to a maximum of 12 roleplayers of 6 Masters and 6 Servants (minus the one Master and one Servant I'll be playing). Also, on a related note, I'd like to ask that you provide more than a few sentences of posts in the IC, since I've had bad experiences with that in the past. Thanks.

[RBYDark]

Sure, sounds fair. And I ask mostly because my current Caster and Assassin ideas, combined with where they hung out in the F/SN war, creates interesting implications for me.

[Guardian Angel Haruki]

OK. Also, in regards to the Madoka lore, are the magi at risk of turning into witches again, considering what happened at the end of Rebellion? And are the masters/magi just magical girls, or are they anyone of all ages and could be male or female?

[JohnWolff]

Also, in regards to the Madoka lore, are the magi at risk of turning into witches again, considering what happened at the end of Rebellion?

@Guardian Angel Haruki

Considering that all AkumaHomura ever did was (presumably) turn all magical girls into normal humans, I don't think that's a concern... not to mention the fact that the Kyubey in this story will take certain 'actions' of his own to manipulate the magical girls to become literal slaves to the Holy Grail War, as they are forced to fight for some makeshift wish-machine their species pull out of their ass for all eternity, even if they die and return to their spirit forms. You know how Saber retained her memories throughout the HGWs she appeared in? It's something like that, except that Kyubey has ensured that there will be no salvation for any of them, even if they do obtain the Grail. But that's a secret for now. And then there's also the question of whether if the magi of the Fate universe would be affected by Kyubey's manipulations, which brings us to your next question...

And are the masters/magi just magical girls, or are they anyone of all ages and could be male or female?

@Guardian Angel Haruki

Nope. They are a separate kind of magical-wielders, existing in a separate reality (the Nasuverse reality) that doesn't incorporate the logic and physics of the Madoka reality. Hence they have nothing to do with magical girls, aside for the fact that they are also being manipulated by the actions of both Kyubey and Kotomine. But there's one major difference between the way Kyubey is manipulating the magical girls and the way it is working with Kotomine to manipulate the magi - the magical girls are now under Kyubey's control, the magi are not. Kyubey can will them into non-existence should it choose to. The details of that is a lot more complex and speculative, so let's leave it at that for now. lol

[Fish of Oblivion]

Also, figure I should put a claim on Saber before I'm beaten to it, considering how short on ideas I am at the moment.