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Let me be more specific as to what I think should be in each group, just a suggestion. Mana = Magicks Vitae = Magicks Spirit = Magicks/Spirit Powers/Abilities Psionic = Mental Powers/Prowess (Telekinesis, Telepathy, etc. Can cross over with Mana, Vitae, and Spirit) Chi = Able to control literal energy, one with yourself, etc.
This is how I classify them (though Vitae is a new one for me). However, I will explain the mechanics thoroughly. It should be agreeable, in the end. Just be patient as I write about the Nexus (it'll appear like an essay). Give me a couple of hours.
Vitae is a True/Born Vampire's Spirit (you could "trap" their spirit somehow and imbue it in a necklace or amulet to be immune to magicks from Mana.) Keep in mind only True/Born Vampires have Vitae, it's another "layer" of magic. Thing is, it can negate Magic from Mana overall as it's anti-magical to it in that sense, you'd have to use Chi, Vitae, Aura (forgot about this one), or Spirit Power. Psionic Powers are useless to use on them directly, as True/Born Vampires have no organs...I'll reveal about an essay worth of description on vampires and Vitae.
Wunderbar! I think we can help each other out with our essays, then. I'll use it as a citation for my "Grimoire."
Wunderbar? You mean Jakob? EDIT: I know someone who uses Wunderbar as an alias, are you confusing me for someone else?
Wunderbar = "Wonderful" in German -_-"
I fail epically, lmao. I'm sorry. I only know the word Wunderbar as I know a friend who uses that as an alias. I am so sorry. Anyway, how could we help each other?
lol, I see. Simple, I can borrow some information from your race(s) to add to my Grimoire (which you can use to get a more firm grasp on the vague concept known as "magic")
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Ah, alright! I'll see if I can write up a thing about Vampires & Vitae later today, or tomorrow, kinda busy currently.
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Ah, alright! I'll see if I can write up a thing about Vampires & Vitae later today, or tomorrow, kinda busy currently.
Ditto. I'll at least give a good "Introduction" and the basic "Mechanics" tonight. The more in-depth information will come later (and over time)
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@Rin Did somebody say something about ridding tigers? I've got tigers here! Well, what I intend to be a version of tigers.
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Good thing this is still the Interest check... I how people will still come xD @the earlier comment The undead will recognize me as a Queen i guess but are mainly independent if anything(I better start working too ^,^)
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Okay, just got back and haven't read over the rest of the thread but kind of want to point out before we really go into more depth about stuff that spelling magic with a k has always kind of grated on me because I find it a little pretentious. ^^; Anyways, going to read what's been going on I guess. EDIT: @DAWNSTAR: Yes, something like that. XD Although I imagine them being a little more sabretoothed, but yeah. @Voltus_Ventus: Map looks great to me! Hopefully it's okay with everyone if I claim part of that eastern continent for the Ky-Ree. Re: Vampires: Just going to say that the vitae thing sounds a bit iffy, weird and a little bit nonsensical to me, honestly. It's magic... But it's not magic? And it's somehow better than magic or... Something? Honestly think it'd be better if we just kept things simple and just went with magic rather than... Whatever that's supposed to be. ^^; And they have no organs? Uh... What? Honestly they sound less like any vampires I can think of and more like some original magical race. Might be better if you just made them that rather than claiming they're vampires, in my opinion. Anyways, going to start work on writing up the Ky-Ree I guess. Might be a bit rough to begin with but we'll see how things turn out.
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Okay, just got back and haven't read over the rest of the thread but kind of want to point out before we really go into more depth about stuff that spelling magic with a k has always kind of grated on me because I find it a little pretentious. ^^; Anyways, going to read what's been going on I guess. EDIT: @DAWNSTAR: Yes, something like that. XD Although I imagine them being a little more sabretoothed, but yeah. @Voltus_Ventus: Map looks great to me! Hopefully it's okay with everyone if I claim part of that eastern continent for the Ky-Ree. Re: Vampires: Just going to say that the vitae thing sounds a bit iffy, weird and a little bit nonsensical to me, honestly. It's magic... But it's not magic? And it's somehow better than magic or... Something? Honestly think it'd be better if we just kept things simple and just went with magic rather than... Whatever that's supposed to be. ^^; And they have no organs? Uh... What? Honestly they sound less like any vampires I can think of and more like some original magical race. Might be better if you just made them that rather than claiming they're vampires, in my opinion. Anyways, going to start work on writing up the Ky-Ree I guess. Might be a bit rough to begin with but we'll see how things turn out.
They're a different interpretation of Vampires that are used for Vampire Roleplay on sites I used to go on, though this type of Vampire Roleplay is more 'advanced and completely restructure Vampires as something less cliche (in terms of popular vampire cliches, such as Twilight's Sparklepires or Dracula) and more darker. Vampires have no organs, but have a bloodstream for reproduction, summoning, and cosmetic purposes. To kill them you need to take away all their Vitae, decapacitate them, or use one of their weaknesess against them, I'll write up something tomorrow or later today.
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The problem is that in your attempt to make them less cliche they kind of... Don't seem to be vampires at all. ^^; I'm not seeing how they're connected to vampire legends, which is making me question why they're "vampires" and not just some original species.
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I have to agree. ^^; I mean, it could work as some kind of original magical being, but they don't really seem like vampires to me. ... Also I'm going to get to work on the Nem fairly soon. ^^; I have the basics more or less ready at least.
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My interpretation of Vampires: They can not syphone mana from the Aether because they are "dead", so they need to get mana from else where, primarily blood because living creatures are the majority when it comes to store of mana in the physical plain and they would be more attracted to humans as food because humans understand more about mana and therefore have more within their blood then let's say, a cow. So basically, they need mana to not decay into dust.
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The problem is that in your attempt to make them less cliche they kind of... Don't seem to be vampires at all. ^^; I'm not seeing how they're connected to vampire legends, which is making me question why they're "vampires" and not just some original species.
Just a different interpretation, their original weaknesses still apply such as: -Garlic -Running/Flowing Water, they can not cross it. -Holy Crosses (they can loophole this, something I came up with if you're willing to hear it out) -Baked Beans -They can't be invited into a household unless invited. (Never understood this) -Sunlight -If someone throws seeds in front of them, they are forced to stop what they're doing and count them. (Be careful of the ones who are quick counters) -Silver Weapons, an exception to death besides decapacitation, a good strike through their body will kill them off, despite not having organs. -Roasted Soybeans (Also a weakness of Oni) -Broken holly branches (^) -Sardine Heads(^) Also, Vampires don't drink animal blood because it has little nutritious value to them, they need Human blood to keep their Vitae going. Update Here's a bit of information about Vitae, though it seems to have been changed around. Now I'm scared I'll get sued if I publish Vitae in one of my books. http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Vitae_%28VTM%29
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Also, Vampires don't drink animal blood it has no nutritious value what-so-ever to them, they need Human blood to keep their Vitae going.
That was just my interpretation.
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Fair enough, just found out that it does nourish them but not a lot. I'm taking the principals of Vitae and editing them to fit my mythology, as to balance out a few things.
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...Yeah, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree about vampire concepts I guess. ^^; Honestly, just... Even with the weaknesses and the stuff you cribbed from WoD, they just seem more like a weird magical race than vampires to me. Sorry.
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Well I'm not in charge of those fanged buggers so have fun doin' what yer doin'.
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...Yeah, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree about vampire concepts I guess. ^^; Honestly, just... Even with the weaknesses and the stuff you cribbed from WoD, they just seem more like a weird magical race than vampires to me. Sorry.
Meh. Oh well, it seems I was misinformed as well, and I'm trying to honestly remember how Vitae was anti-magical as well, due to the uses.......Vitae is basically a vampire's blood and they never exactly die either, due to Vamparic immortality, a stake will send them into Topor but you'll need to decapacitate them.
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Should I go ahead and post what I have of the Nem language so far? It's kind of just scraps and I doubt I'll ever really develop it but there's some stuff there. ^^; ... Also could flesh out their religion a bit more...
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Well I'm not in charge of those fanged buggers so have fun doin' what yer doin'.
Best way of looking at it. Although, I had my own theories on reanimated corpses and vampires. This may throw a wrench into my work... but I'll try and work around it.
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they just seem more like a weird magical race than vampires to me
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Which is ok. We should all be open to feedback, and not set our thoughts in stone. Then again, vampires and demonic beings are DiamondBlizzards responsibility, so s/he has the last say about it. Also: @Pie Flavor, your title shall be Lich Queen! :D @Sessamaru, you need to check those ideas with Pie Flavor, too. She's responsible for the undead.
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