[OOC] The Sun Will Never Set (A Statisticless NRP)(It had a good run)

[Voltus_Ventus]

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C4 and bug spray?

@Hael

Dynamite and grappling hooks.

[Murtox]

They are not that big yet.........muahahahahahahahha

[Cyclone]

@ClockTowerEchos

Remember how we talked about a history of piracy? Well I added this to my nation sheet:

Yamatai Pirates

Though the Sultanate has always respected fellow empires and monarchs with a legitimate right to rule, relations with Yamatai have traditionally been poor. The source of the contempt began centuries ago. Not long after the Tin and Yamatai had established contact, tales of rich, foreign lands reached the ears of men with an abundance of greed and a lack of scruples. Pirates from both Yamatai and Tin began to raid coastal villages and ships of the other realm, with the two nations' regimes at times not caring (or even endorsing such actions) and at other times not having the resources to fully stop it. This piracy has continued on and off for centuries, and is one of the largest factors that led to Tin following Ventium's example and modernizing its navy to deal with the problem of piracy.

Yamatai pirates were the driving force behind Tin's research into submarines, and are one of the reasons that the traditional Tinite ways of fighting on land made way for Tin creating an impressive navy. Indeed, during this era of piracy many corsairs from both sides made their hideouts and bases on the Zanjar Islands, and that is how the archipelago was first discovered. Now, both Tin and Yamatai are in conflict as both seek to take the Zanjar Islands, for their abundance of resources and strategic importance as naval bases.

What do you think?

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Well, it's fine if you don't industrialize too fast. Plus most of your land is desert. But if you'd like to balance it, you can have fossil fuels adroit only mineralogical resource and that's not really bad.

@Voltus_Ventus

Uh, I don't really understand what you're saying about "fossil fuels adroit only mineralogical resource". But anyways, I'll go with the submarines then. And how fast Tin industrializes is probably out of my control; it'd depend on how much Ventium invests in aid and on if any foreign businesses would like to outsource factories into Tin and exploit the abundance of resources and cheap labor to mass produce things for cheap.

And speaking of Ventium and foreign aid, I'm working on the history section right now and writing about Tin's relations with other countries. I know we came to a rough idea as to what type of relationship our nations would have, but what about the specifics? Are we close allies, or would Ventium remain neutral and not support Tin in its conflicts with the other powers on our continent?

And as in for history, it'd make sense that way back in the equivalent of the medieval times when Tin was full of steppe hordes, the Tinites probably were the bane of the Ventium's existence. But seeing as it's been centuries since they went around marauding the countryside and Ventium is helping Tin modernize, I'd think that our recent history would have been more friendly. Perhaps Tin has been willing to overlook any differences between them and you now that all these Communists and Republics are popping up and you're the last monarchy besides them on the continent?

[Hael]

I need to talk to you, Cyclone, about history. I intend on writing some of Tin into KalMea's (my nation's) history.

When I get my N.S. up in a bit, I mean

[Cyclone]

@Hael

Sure, just PM me whenever. Ideally today.

I'm going to say this again just in case anybody missed it, I'm going to be away from home next week. I should still have internet access and be able to check on this OOC occasionally, but I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to post IC. I might be able to do that though; we'll see.

[Willy Vereb]

Yllendthyr is aware of tank technology and has something kind of like it.
But mithril frames aren't that well suited for heavy cannons, and Yllendthyr's military doctrine focuses more on speed.
Baically they try to rely on alternatives to deal with tanks, including divebombing tactical fighter/bomber craft. WW1 never happened here so nations worldwide were not forced to acknowledge the tactical gains by air superiority. Still, Yllendthyr has a long history on using aerial forces to turn the tide of battle so they try to count on their air forces the same way.

Another interesting thing is that Yllendthyr has no heavy bomber aircraft. They scorn at the idea of making their propellercraft slow. Instead they delegate that role to their airships. Airships would be practically like mobile aerial bases to the elven warmachine. They are sorta like aircraft carriers. Shooting down Yllendthyr's airships can be quite an issue for them. Back to topic, heavy bombings are performed in a rather unique way by Yllendthyr. Their airships usually don't drop bombs but launch V1 like missiles at distant targets.
They use their fast aircraft to scout out the area, relay the coordinates and then launch the missile. It works reasonably well, albeit these "flying bombs" are susceptible to interception so air superiority is advisable.

[Voltus_Ventus]

@ClockTowerEchos

Remember how we talked about a history of piracy? Well I added this to my nation sheet:

Yamatai Pirates

Though the Sultanate has always respected fellow empires and monarchs with a legitimate right to rule, relations with Yamatai have traditionally been poor. The source of the contempt began centuries ago. Not long after the Tin and Yamatai had established contact, tales of rich, foreign lands reached the ears of men with an abundance of greed and a lack of scruples. Pirates from both Yamatai and Tin began to raid coastal villages and ships of the other realm, with the two nations' regimes at times not caring (or even endorsing such actions) and at other times not having the resources to fully stop it. This piracy has continued on and off for centuries, and is one of the largest factors that led to Tin following Ventium's example and modernizing its navy to deal with the problem of piracy.

Yamatai pirates were the driving force behind Tin's research into submarines, and are one of the reasons that the traditional Tinite ways of fighting on land made way for Tin creating an impressive navy. Indeed, during this era of piracy many corsairs from both sides made their hideouts and bases on the Zanjar Islands, and that is how the archipelago was first discovered. Now, both Tin and Yamatai are in conflict as both seek to take the Zanjar Islands, for their abundance of resources and strategic importance as naval bases.

What do you think?

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Uh, I don't really understand what you're saying about "fossil fuels adroit only mineralogical resource". But anyways, I'll go with the submarines then. And how fast Tin industrializes is probably out of my control; it'd depend on how much Ventium invests in aid and on if any foreign businesses would like to outsource factories into Tin and exploit the abundance of resources and cheap labor to mass produce things for cheap.

And speaking of Ventium and foreign aid, I'm working on the history section right now and writing about Tin's relations with other countries. I know we came to a rough idea as to what type of relationship our nations would have, but what about the specifics? Are we close allies, or would Ventium remain neutral and not support Tin in its conflicts with the other powers on our continent?

And as in for history, it'd make sense that way back in the equivalent of the medieval times when Tin was full of steppe hordes, the Tinites probably were the bane of the Ventium's existence. But seeing as it's been centuries since they went around marauding the countryside and Ventium is helping Tin modernize, I'd think that our recent history would have been more friendly. Perhaps Tin has been willing to overlook any differences between them and you now that all these Communists and Republics are popping up and you're the last monarchy besides them on the continent?

@Cyclone

I'd like to think that our relationship is Cordial, we are friendly but I wouldn't say allies as it is an unspoken truth that they are just together for mutual benefit and would otherwise be at each other's throats but if it came to war, I'd probably side with the Tinites as a show of good faith and to keep the oil rolling.

[Murtox]

@Voltus_Ventus

But you could also buy oil from nation...............

just a thought

[Voltus_Ventus]

@Voltus_Ventus

But you could also buy oil from nation...............

just a thought

@Murtox

Easier to exploit someone closer by but I would not mind history with your nation.

[Willy Vereb]

Speaking of oil, I plan to have most of my vehicles being diesel-electric hybrids with the main fuel source being biodiesel.
All of these developments are practically available prior to 1940.
It won't be as good as modern hybrid engines of course but I can get a decent one working where on low or cruising speed it uses electric engines while the diesel is active on higher speeds. When peak performance is needed then both engines are turned on. As such I'll save a lot on oil albeit I'd still require a ton for other purposes or when biodiesel is less of an option.

[Cyclone]

@Voltus_Ventus

What makes you say that if not for mutual benefit they'd otherwise be at one another's throats? It's really easy to become Tin's enemy if you suppress any Ajdars in your nation, mock the faith, or deny missionaries. But by the same token it's equally possible to earn Tin's almost unwavering friendship if you let Ajdar believers openly worship and don't oppose missionaries. Granted, this gives Tin some influence over you if you do it, but to be fair Ventium has a great deal of influence over Tin. It's a tradeoff worth considering.

And while Tin is happy to attempt spreading their religion peacefully, it's not as if they're so good at it that suddenly the Ajdars would become the majority in Ventium and take over. The religion has a bad reputation and so there wouldn't be any insane number of converts.

[Voltus_Ventus]

@Cyclone

The Ventian faith is strong and I would most likely not permit missionaries in my border and you would probably not try to send them to reduce tension. our societies would cost likely be in the dark about one another though and only those who are super well travelled would really know about each other's cultures.

[Voltus_Ventus]

Speaking of oil, I plan to have most of my vehicles being diesel-electric hybrids with the main fuel source being biodiesel.
All of these developments are practically available prior to 1940.
It won't be as good as modern hybrid engines of course but I can get a decent one working where on low or cruising speed it uses electric engines while the diesel is active on higher speeds. When peak performance is needed then both engines are turned on. As such I'll save a lot on oil albeit I'd still require a ton for other purposes or when biodiesel is less of an option.

@Willy Vereb

I personally believe that you shouldn't go bio-desial, it kind of makes me the only one who uses oil since everyone else is electric or going electric. I think that oil dependency would add more to the RP but if you have your heart set on bio-desial go for it.

[Cyclone]

@Voltus_Ventus

Oh, I didn't notice mention of any religion in your sheet so I assumed that Ventium didn't have one.

[Voltus_Ventus]

@Voltus_Ventus

Oh, I didn't notice mention of any religion in your sheet so I assumed that Ventium didn't have one.

@Cyclone

*Sheepish* I was writing one but I was too taken away by the OOC...

[Cyclone]

Well, ya could just go lazy and have Andar :P

[Voltus_Ventus]

Well, ya could just go lazy and have Andar :P

@Cyclone

No! I will have my own faith! Infidel!

[Willy Vereb]

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I personally believe that you shouldn't go bio-desial, it kind of makes me the only one who uses oil since everyone else is electric or going electric. I think that oil dependency would add more to the RP but if you have your heart set on bio-desial go for it.

@Voltus_Ventus

I depend on tons of oil for my plastic and generally my chemical industry.
I also use oil-derived diesel when it's convenient.

Also what do you mean with everyone else is electric? I thought practically everyone uses steam or combustion engine driven vehicles.
I use biodiesel becaue it seems to fit my nation's style more. I still fight for resources and Yllendthyr didn't gave up on its ambitions for conquest, either.
My colonies are actually worth a lot to me, especially that part on the africa-lookalike penisula.

[Hael]

Slight delay. Expect the N.S. in six hours

[Voltus_Ventus]

Slight delay. Expect the N.S. in six hours

@Hael

Take your time, you're not being rushed.

I'm heading to bed guys. I'll see what I can do about an IC soon.