[OOC] [Ranked] 2 v 2 battle! Reapers Vs Champions; A Dance of Blades!

[DJAtomika]

To no sell is to act like an attack or action never even happened. Wrestling term, and that's the WWF kind of wrestling not the actual kind.

Anyway I think this is just all a big misunderstanding on my stupid part, but I'm just gonna wait for Vordak to rule in your favour before I go edit my post.

[GreivousKhan]

From what I read melon head attempted to intercept you as you fell. (though how it is written it's hard to tell where she jumped to, I originally though she flipped over his head to land behind him.)

Which is to say he hit you before you hit the ground. The recent post seems to ignore that fact. Which is what Melon is raving about.

[DJAtomika]

Yeah I know. I'm going to edit that but I now have to wait for Vordak to do his thing before I go and fix my own bloody mistake.

Not like I'm going to win anyway. Now I'm just trying to hold out until Melon inevitably makes me give up or wins.

[MelonHead]

From what I read melon head attempted to intercept you as you fell. (though how it is written it's hard to tell where she jumped to, I originally though she flipped over his head to land behind him.)

Which is to say he hit you before you hit the ground. The recent post seems to ignore that fact. Which is what Melon is raving about.

@GreivousKhan

I'm hardly raving, it's just strange to be called out on voiding other people's actions when my character is logically intercepting them, where-as in this situation it seems like DJ just wrote what I said never happened just because.

If Vordak comes in and says he doesn't feel my character can slash with his sword quick enough to hit you when I say he did (provided you do nothing different), that's fair enough, but you can't just say that yourself.

Khan - As far as I can tell it was a standing jump, straight up and then back down again, same position, that may be why there was confusion over Judgement's sword work earlier.

[DJAtomika]

She just jumped vertically upward. Not a far distance, but she tucked her legs in and curled up into a ball almost to reduce her silhouette and height. The sword would've passed by under her, whereupon she re extends her legs as she comes back down, making her first contact her feet, which comes in a very short amount of time than an actually straight up vertical jump.

If you've ever, like, done squat jumps before, then you'll understand a bit better.

But whatever. Not like I'm gonna win. Just gonna wait then edit with a sword clash instead of an avoid.

[GreivousKhan]

Well try to hit you before you hit the ground is what I should probably say. I feel the need to point out that it's not a an end game move. There's a good three ways to deal with it.

Four actually, but the latter one would require to much precision/risk.

Also don't sell yourself so short. You started of in a compromising position against a fairly strong opponent so difficulty can be expected. But it can still easily go either way.

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I'm hardly raving, it's just strange to be called out on voiding other people's actions when my character is logically intercepting them, where-as in this situation it seems like DJ just wrote what I said never happened just because.

If Vordak comes in and says he doesn't feel my character can slash with his sword quick enough to hit you when I say he did (provided you do nothing different), that's fair enough, but you can't just say that yourself.

Khan - As far as I can tell it was a standing jump, straight up and then back down again, same position, that may be why there was confusion over Judgement's sword work earlier.

@MelonHead

The raving part is theatrics, not meant to be taken seriously.

Also if we can always switch dance partners if Melons style is throwing you off DJ, IM is a little more forgiving when it comes to rule of cool than Skalla or Melon.

[GreivousKhan]

She just jumped vertically upward. Not a far distance, but she tucked her legs in and curled up into a ball almost to reduce her silhouette and height. The sword would've passed by under her, whereupon she re extends her legs as she comes back down, making her first contact her feet, which comes in a very short amount of time than an actually straight up vertical jump.

If you've ever, like, done squat jumps before, then you'll understand a bit better.

But whatever. Not like I'm gonna win. Just gonna wait then edit with a sword clash instead of an avoid.

@DJAtomika

That makes melon reverse swing make allot more sense. Though I'd still like to know what kind of grip he's using. In close combat those kind of stuff makes a surprising amount of difference.

[DJAtomika]

I guess I have a horrible tendency to pick horrible fights that I can't win.

Oh well.

[MelonHead]

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That makes melon reverse swing make allot more sense. Though I'd still like to know what kind of grip he's using. In close combat those kind of stuff makes a surprising amount of difference.

@GreivousKhan

Yeah, as I've mentioned I'm still learning swordplay myself and it's hard to understand on the purely theoretical level I have to experience it. I suspect that considering he launched his strike left to right he'd be leading with his left hand on the grip, but he was leading with his right hand in the first slash. I figure for an experienced swordsman the change-over wouldn't be that difficult.

I should point out I'm only -this- unforgiving when playing a very specific character arch-type usually, which is this exact sort. You can't really afford to give your opponent an inch when your character is just a hulking giant with a sword and no reliable ranged capability what-so-ever.

[MelonHead]

I guess I have a horrible tendency to pick horrible fights that I can't win.

Oh well.

@DJAtomika

That rings awfully hollow beside your 2 wins 0 loss ratio.

[DJAtomika]

First ranked match was against Rilla where I won fair and square.

Second was against Skall, but that was because he had to leave halfway into our match for real life reasons so he conceded to me. Granted I should've told Rilla not to award me the win at all and I complained that it was unfair towards Skall too. But the arena system works like this now so I couldn't do anything. I don't think it's possible to remove wins unless I contact Mahz and ask him to do that.

[GreivousKhan]

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Yeah, as I've mentioned I'm still learning swordplay myself and it's hard to understand on the purely theoretical level I have to experience it. I suspect that considering he launched his strike left to right he'd be leading with his left hand on the grip, but he was leading with his right hand in the first slash. I figure for an experienced swordsman the change-over wouldn't be that difficult.

I should point out I'm only -this- unforgiving when playing a very specific character arch-type usually, which is this exact sort. You can't really afford to give your opponent an inch when your character is just a hulking giant with a sword and no reliable ranged capability what-so-ever.

@MelonHead

Reversing would mean he'd need (assuming he's using it with two hands) to reverse from a palm down grip for his right hand (assuming this is his dominant hand) to a palm down grip.

Which is why I found it odd since that takes just a tad longer to do than merely sending the tip of the sword into a slight turn (resembling a clockwise turn) and flipping that same edge and sending it the other way without losing to much time. It'd be a very fast movement Dj might not have time to even block while retaining your momentum.

Anyway, I of course assume Judgment is using his weapon to the best of his ability(he has a huge amount of training of not experience), I just wanted to know if he was using one hand or two hands.

[MelonHead]

You haven't lost a fight yet, I don't see the reason for negativity?

[MelonHead]

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Reversing would mean he'd need (assuming he's using it with two hands) to reverse from a palm down grip for his right hand (assuming this is his dominant hand) to a palm down grip.

Which is why I found it odd since that takes just a tad longer to do than merely sending the tip of the sword into a slight turn (resembling a clockwise turn) and flipping that same edge and sending it the other way without losing to much time. It'd be a very fast movement Dj might not have time to even block while retaining your momentum.

Anyway, I of course assume Judgment is using his weapon to the best of his ability(he has a huge amount of training of not experience), I just wanted to know if he was using one hand or two hands.

@GreivousKhan

Oh no, he's not reversing his grip at all with the false slash, he reversed his grip while launching the knee strike and then stuck with the left hand leading grip for the left right slash and the false slash. Like I said, I imagine it a bit like paddling a boat, but with more footwork.

[DJAtomika]

I'm kind of a pessimist.

[GreivousKhan]

I'm kind of a pessimist.

@DJAtomika

I blame it on Rilla, since he made up the whole ranking thing. :P

But like I said there's not reason to be pessimistic. Everyone makes mistakes now and again, we are human. You might not see it on older arena folks like Skalla because they've been around allot (and don't fight all that often tbh) but I remember his blow our argument about a certain flying knife and a horse. :3

Short end of it, shit happens not the end of the world.

[MelonHead]

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I blame it on Rilla, since he made up the whole ranking thing. :P

But like I said there's not reason to be pessimistic. Everyone makes mistakes now and again, we are human. You might not see it on older arena folks like Skalla because they've been around allot (and don't fight all that often tbh) but I remember his blow our argument about a certain flying knife and a horse. :3

Short end of it, shit happens not the end of the world.

@GreivousKhan

Hah, the throwing knife incident was funny.

That was slightly bad form though, who the hell would stand in front of a charging horse and get lucky enough to throw a knife straight at its head, at T1/2? I was very dubious about that, even though he was technically charging us down at the time so I shouldn't have been looking a gift horse in the mouth.

Which is also a pun, haha joy.

[GreivousKhan]

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Hah, the throwing knife incident was funny.

That was slightly bad form though, who the hell would stand in front of a charging horse and get lucky enough to throw a knife straight at its head, at T1/2? I was very dubious about that, even though he was technically charging us down at the time so I shouldn't have been looking a gift horse in the mouth.

@MelonHead

Ya, looking back I see Whatshisface (I know who did it but I wont mention their name, they've changed it now anyway) was totally in the wrong. Assuming his knife did hit, he was stilling going to get buried under hundreds of pounds of horse meat. Which we kind of agreed on anyway, but oh well.

One day I'm going to try that group on group Chivalry style battle again. Hopefully an actual judges will help it last to the end.

[MelonHead]

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Ya, looking back I see Whatshisface (I know who did it but I wont mention their name, they've changed it now anyway) was totally in the wrong. Assuming his knife did hit, he was stilling going to get buried under hundreds of pounds of horse meat. Which we kind of agreed on anyway, but oh well.

One day I'm going to try that group on group Chivalry style battle again. Hopefully an actual judges will help it last to the end.

@GreivousKhan

I'd definitely be up for it, maybe mix up the period a little and go for an Ancient World battle or even Dark Ages? Could be interesting.

[GreivousKhan]

Probably dark ages, thus avoid heavy knights and so forth. Also thinking of evening it out to purely T1 realistic no powers. I momentarily considered a class system, but decided it would be to complicated. That can be another theme for another time.

Not sure if it will be ranked as of yet (unless I learn you need 2000 points for next tournament, which would not surprise me), it's not likely to have any impact on the Multiverse canon either.