[OOC] Pokemon: Nexus [Accepting Two More!]

[Sho Minazuki]

Wait, so you're going to be keeping track of even the stats?

I want you to think about this. When doing this for a couple people... It's manageable. Especially with 1-2 Pokemon each.

Now think about doing this for months and months and months, for well over a dozen to two dozen people, not to mention by that time, each person will reach 3-6 Pokemon in their party, meaning you'll be doing it 3-6 times more, multiplied with how many more players are going to be joining down the line.

You want a more simple and manageable system.

[The Red Seelie]

Wait, so you're going to be keeping track of even the stats?

I want you to think about this. When doing this for a couple people... It's manageable. Especially with 1-2 Pokemon each.

Now think about doing this for months and months and months, for well over a dozen to two dozen people, not to mention by that time, each person will reach 3-6 Pokemon in their party, meaning you'll be doing it 3-6 times more, multiplied with how many more players are going to be joining down the line.

You want a more simple and manageable system.

@Sho Minazuki

this man brings up reason,

anywho

Rarity terms

Common - easy to find - Base evos/First evos.
Uncommon - Rarer then common - Base Evos/First Evos.
Rare - Usually evolutions of pokemon or pokemon rarely found in the wild.
Super rare - Stone evolutions, Final Evolutions, Pseudo Legendarys, Friendship evolutions, Trade evolutions, , Stuff you would rarely find,.
Legendary - One of a kind

Kanto Dex Rarity

Dex number #1 Bulbasaur Rare
Dex number #2 Ivysaur Super Rare
Dex number #3 Venusaur Super Rare
Dex number #4 Charmander Rare
Dex number #5 CharmeleonSuper Rare
Dex number #6 Charizard Super Rare
Dex number #7 Squirtle Rare
Dex number #8 Wartortle Super Rare
Dex number #9 Blastoise Super Rare
Dex number #10 Caterpie Common
Dex number #11 Metapod Common
Dex number #12 Butterfree Uncommon
Dex number #13 Weedle Common
Dex number #14 Kakuna Common
Dex number #15 Beedrill Uncommon
Dex number #16 Pidgey Common
Dex number #17 Pidgeotto Uncommon
Dex number #18 Pidgeot Rare
Dex number #19 Rattata Common
Dex number #20 Raticate Uncommon
Dex number #21 Spearow Uncommon
Dex number #22 Fearow Rare
Dex number #23 Ekans Uncommon
Dex number #24 Arbok Rare
Dex number #25 Pikachu Uncommon
Dex number #26 Raichu Rare
Dex number #27 Sandshrew Uncommon
Dex number #28 Sandslash Rare
Dex number #29 Nidoran♀ Uncommon
Dex number #30 Ninorina Rare
Dex number #31 Nidoqueen Super Rare
Dex number #32 Nidoran♂ Uncommon
Dex number #33 Nidorino Rare
Dex number #34 Nidoking Super Rare
Dex number #35 Clefairy Uncommon
Dex number #36 Clefable Super rare
Dex number #37 Vulpix Uncommon
Dex number #38 NinetalesSuper Rare
Dex number #39 Jigglypuff Uncommon
Dex number #40 Wigglytuff Super Rare
Dex number #41 Zubat Common
Dex number #42 Golbat Common
Dex number #43 Oddish Uncommon
Dex number #44 Gloom Uncommon
Dex number #45 Vileplume Super Rare
Dex number #46 Paras Common
Dex number #47 Parasect Rare
Dex number #48 Venonat Uncommon
Dex number #49 Venomoth Rare
Dex number #50 Diglett Uncommon
Dex number #51 Dugtrio Rare
Dex number #52 Meowth Uncommon
Dex number #53 Persian Rare
Dex number #54 Psyduck Uncommon
Dex number #55 Golduck Rare
Dex number #56 Mankey Uncommon
Dex number #57 Primeape Rare
Dex number #58 Growlithe Uncommon
Dex number #59 Arcanine Super Rare
Dex number #60 Poliwag Common
Dex number #61 Poliwhirl Uncommon
Dex number #62 Poliwrath Super rare
Dex number #63 Abra Rare (because they teleport)
Dex number #64 Kadabra Rare
Dex number #65 Alakazam Super Rare
Dex number #66 Machop Uncommon
Dex number #67 Machoke Uncommon
Dex number #68 Machamp Super Rare
Dex number #69 Bellsprout Uncommon
Dex number #70 Weepinbell Uncommon
Dex number #71 Victreebel Super Rare
Dex number #72 Tentacool Common
Dex number #73 Tentacruel Rare
Dex number #74 Geodude Common
Dex number #75 Graveler Common
Dex number #76 Golem Super Rare
Dex number #77 Ponyta Uncommon
Dex number #78 Rapidash Rare
Dex number #79 Slowpoke Uncommon
Dex number #80 Slowbro Rare
Dex number #81 Magnemite Uncommon
Dex number #82 Magneton Rare
Dex number #83 Farfetch Uncommon
Dex number #84 Doduo Uncommon
Dex number #85 Dodrio Rare
Dex number #86 Seel Uncommon
Dex number #87 Dewgong Rare
Dex number #88 Grimer Uncommon
Dex number #89 Muk Rare
Dex number #90 Shellder Uncommon
Dex number #91 Cloyster Rare
Dex number #92 Ghastly Uncommon
Dex number #93 Haunter Uncommon
Dex number #94 Gengar Super rare
Dex number #95 Onix Rare
Dex number #96 Drowzee Uncommon
Dex number #97 Hypno Rare
Dex number #98 Krabby Common
Dex number #99 Kingler Rare
Dex number #100 Voltorb Uncommon
Dex number #101 Electrode Rare
Dex number #102 Exeggcute Uncommon
Dex number #103 Exeggutor Rare
Dex number #104 Cubone Uncommon
Dex number #105 Marowak Rare (although according to cubones dex entry they should be super rare)
Dex number #106 Hitmonlee Rare
Dex number #107 HitmonChan Rare
Dex number #108 Lickitung Uncommon
Dex number #109 Koffing Uncommon
Dex number #110 Weezing Rare
Dex number #111 Rhyhorn Uncommon
Dex number #112 Rhydon Rare
Dex number #113 Chansey Rare
Dex number #114 Tangela Rare
Dex number #115 Kangaskhan Uncommon
Dex number #116 Horsea Uncommon
Dex number #117 Seadra Rare
Dex number #118 Goldeen Uncommon
Dex number #119 Seaking Rare
Dex number #120 Staryu Uncommon
Dex number #121 Starmie Super Rare
Dex number #122 Mr Mime Rare
Dex number #123 Scyther Rare
Dex number #124 Jynx Rare
Dex number #125 Electabuzz Rare
Dex number #126 Magmar Rare
Dex number #127 Pinser Rare
Dex number #128 Tauros Uncommon
Dex number #129 Magikarp Common
Dex number #130 Gyrados Rare
Dex number #131 Lapras Rare
Dex number #132 Ditto Rare
Dex number #133 Eevee Rare
Dex number #134 Vaporeon Super rare
Dex number #135 Jolteon Super rare
Dex number #136 Flareon Super rare
Dex number #137 Porygon Super Rare
Dex number #138 Omanyte Super rare
Dex number #139 Omastar Super Rare
Dex number #140 Kabuto Super Rare
Dex number #141 Kabutops Super Rare
Dex number #142 Aerodactyl Super Rare
Dex number #143 Snorlax Rare
Dex number #144 Articuno LEGENDARY
Dex number #145 Zapdos LEGENDARY
Dex number #146 Moltres LEGENDARY
Dex number #147 Dratini Super Rare
Dex number #148 Dragonair Super Rare
Dex number #149 Dragonite Super Rare
Dex number #150 Mewtwo LEGENDARY
Dex number #151 Mew LEGENDARY

Now back to working on johto

[AbysmalDemon]

Wait, so you're going to be keeping track of even the stats?

I want you to think about this. When doing this for a couple people... It's manageable. Especially with 1-2 Pokemon each.

Now think about doing this for months and months and months, for well over a dozen to two dozen people, not to mention by that time, each person will reach 3-6 Pokemon in their party, meaning you'll be doing it 3-6 times more, multiplied with how many more players are going to be joining down the line.

You want a more simple and manageable system.

@Sho Minazuki

[Sho Minazuki]

I think the very first evolutions of the starters should be lower on the rarity, by principle that there would be far more of them than their evolved counterparts.

[AbysmalDemon]

By stats I meant level, movesets, ability, not Atk, Def, Spd. Sorry for the confusion.

[The Red Seelie]

I think the very first evolutions of the starters should be lower on the rarity, by principle that there would be far more of them than their evolved counterparts.

@Sho Minazuki

yea thats a good point, ill make the adjustments now, also what are your thoughts on the list Sho?

[AbysmalDemon]

<Snipped quote by Sho Minazuki>

this man brings up reason,

anywho

Rarity terms

Common - easy to find - Base evos/First evos.
Uncommon - Rarer then common - Base Evos/First Evos.
Rare - Usually evolutions of pokemon or pokemon rarely found in the wild.
Super rare - Stone evolutions, Final Evolutions, Pseudo Legendarys, Friendship evolutions, Trade evolutions, , Stuff you would rarely find,.
Legendary - One of a kind

Kanto Dex Rarity

Dex number #1 Bulbasaur Rare
Dex number #2 Ivysaur Super Rare
Dex number #3 Venusaur Super Rare
Dex number #4 Charmander Rare
Dex number #5 CharmeleonSuper Rare
Dex number #6 Charizard Super Rare
Dex number #7 Squirtle Rare
Dex number #8 Wartortle Super Rare
Dex number #9 Blastoise Super Rare
Dex number #10 Caterpie Common
Dex number #11 Metapod Common
Dex number #12 Butterfree Uncommon
Dex number #13 Weedle Common
Dex number #14 Kakuna Common
Dex number #15 Beedrill Uncommon
Dex number #16 Pidgey Common
Dex number #17 Pidgeotto Uncommon
Dex number #18 Pidgeot Rare
Dex number #19 Rattata Common
Dex number #20 Raticate Uncommon
Dex number #21 Spearow Uncommon
Dex number #22 Fearow Rare
Dex number #23 Ekans Uncommon
Dex number #24 Arbok Rare
Dex number #25 Pikachu Uncommon
Dex number #26 Raichu Rare
Dex number #27 Sandshrew Uncommon
Dex number #28 Sandslash Rare
Dex number #29 Nidoran♀ Uncommon
Dex number #30 Ninorina Rare
Dex number #31 Nidoqueen Super Rare
Dex number #32 Nidoran♂ Uncommon
Dex number #33 Nidorino Rare
Dex number #34 Nidoking Super Rare
Dex number #35 Clefairy Uncommon
Dex number #36 Clefable Super rare
Dex number #37 Vulpix Uncommon
Dex number #38 NinetalesSuper Rare
Dex number #39 Jigglypuff Uncommon
Dex number #40 Wigglytuff Super Rare
Dex number #41 Zubat Common
Dex number #42 Golbat Common
Dex number #43 Oddish Uncommon
Dex number #44 Gloom Uncommon
Dex number #45 Vileplume Super Rare
Dex number #46 Paras Common
Dex number #47 Parasect Rare
Dex number #48 Venonat Uncommon
Dex number #49 Venomoth Rare
Dex number #50 Diglett Uncommon
Dex number #51 Dugtrio Rare
Dex number #52 Meowth Uncommon
Dex number #53 Persian Rare
Dex number #54 Psyduck Uncommon
Dex number #55 Golduck Rare
Dex number #56 Mankey Uncommon
Dex number #57 Primeape Rare
Dex number #58 Growlithe Uncommon
Dex number #59 Arcanine Super Rare
Dex number #60 Poliwag Common
Dex number #61 Poliwhirl Uncommon
Dex number #62 Poliwrath Super rare
Dex number #63 Abra Rare (because they teleport)
Dex number #64 Kadabra Rare
Dex number #65 Alakazam Super Rare
Dex number #66 Machop Uncommon
Dex number #67 Machoke Uncommon
Dex number #68 Machamp Super Rare
Dex number #69 Bellsprout Uncommon
Dex number #70 Weepinbell Uncommon
Dex number #71 Victreebel Super Rare
Dex number #72 Tentacool Common
Dex number #73 Tentacruel Rare
Dex number #74 Geodude Common
Dex number #75 Graveler Common
Dex number #76 Golem Super Rare
Dex number #77 Ponyta Uncommon
Dex number #78 Rapidash Rare
Dex number #79 Slowpoke Uncommon
Dex number #80 Slowbro Rare
Dex number #81 Magnemite Uncommon
Dex number #82 Magneton Rare
Dex number #83 Farfetch Uncommon
Dex number #84 Doduo Uncommon
Dex number #85 Dodrio Rare
Dex number #86 Seel Uncommon
Dex number #87 Dewgong Rare
Dex number #88 Grimer Uncommon
Dex number #89 Muk Rare
Dex number #90 Shellder Uncommon
Dex number #91 Cloyster Rare
Dex number #92 Ghastly Uncommon
Dex number #93 Haunter Uncommon
Dex number #94 Gengar Super rare
Dex number #95 Onix Rare
Dex number #96 Drowzee Uncommon
Dex number #97 Hypno Rare
Dex number #98 Krabby Common
Dex number #99 Kingler Rare
Dex number #100 Voltorb Uncommon
Dex number #101 Electrode Rare
Dex number #102 Exeggcute Uncommon
Dex number #103 Exeggutor Rare
Dex number #104 Cubone Uncommon
Dex number #105 Marowak Rare (although according to cubones dex entry they should be super rare)
Dex number #106 Hitmonlee Rare
Dex number #107 HitmonChan Rare
Dex number #108 Lickitung Uncommon
Dex number #109 Koffing Uncommon
Dex number #110 Weezing Rare
Dex number #111 Rhyhorn Uncommon
Dex number #112 Rhydon Rare
Dex number #113 Chansey Rare
Dex number #114 Tangela Rare
Dex number #115 Kangaskhan Uncommon
Dex number #116 Horsea Uncommon
Dex number #117 Seadra Rare
Dex number #118 Goldeen Uncommon
Dex number #119 Seaking Rare
Dex number #120 Staryu Uncommon
Dex number #121 Starmie Super Rare
Dex number #122 Mr Mime Rare
Dex number #123 Scyther Rare
Dex number #124 Jynx Rare
Dex number #125 Electabuzz Rare
Dex number #126 Magmar Rare
Dex number #127 Pinser Rare
Dex number #128 Tauros Uncommon
Dex number #129 Magikarp Common
Dex number #130 Gyrados Rare
Dex number #131 Lapras Rare
Dex number #132 Ditto Rare
Dex number #133 Eevee Rare
Dex number #134 Vaporeon Super rare
Dex number #135 Jolteon Super rare
Dex number #136 Flareon Super rare
Dex number #137 Porygon Super Rare
Dex number #138 Omanyte Super rare
Dex number #139 Omastar Super Rare
Dex number #140 Kabuto Super Rare
Dex number #141 Kabutops Super Rare
Dex number #142 Aerodactyl Super Rare
Dex number #143 Snorlax Rare
Dex number #144 Articuno LEGENDARY
Dex number #145 Zapdos LEGENDARY
Dex number #146 Moltres LEGENDARY
Dex number #147 Dratini Super Rare
Dex number #148 Dragonair Super Rare
Dex number #149 Dragonite Super Rare
Dex number #150 Mewtwo LEGENDARY
Dex number #151 Mew LEGENDARY

Now back to working on johto

@1Charak2

I was doing rarity, based on what was in the area, but y'know, this works to.

[The Red Seelie]

<Snipped quote by 1Charak2>

I was doing rarity, based on what was in the area, but y'know, this works to.

@AbysmalDemon

yea but I thought people here could at least ascertain different pokemon to different areas...

I mean you wouldn't find a Tentacruel in a forest, and you wouldn't find a Spearow under the sea...

plus the routes are described so yea.. people cna use both the list and the description of the routes as basis for what pokemon are their, plus it saves you time Abysmal because then you don't have to tell them how rare everything is.

[Sho Minazuki]

I agree, although as an afterward we can consider rarity modifiers to certain routes.

Like you can roll for events when someone enters an area, and say you roll like a nat 20, there's loads of Pokemon everywhere and rarity goes down a notch, or roll a 1 and there's one apex predator/really powerful Pokemon roaming closer to the roads and is aggressive.

The first makes it easier to get what you want, the latter gives an opportunity, but it's crazy because of the difficulty.

Also people can ask if a Pokemon can be caught in a certain area, so we can bypass some blind spots with simple human interaction.

Also back to the topic of levels... Thinking...

[The Red Seelie]

I agree, although as an afterward we can consider rarity modifiers to certain routes.

Like you can roll for events when someone enters an area, and say you roll like a nat 20, there's loads of Pokemon everywhere and rarity goes down a notch, or roll a 1 and there's one apex predator/really powerful Pokemon roaming closer to the roads and is aggressive.

The first makes it easier to get what you want, the latter gives an opportunity, but it's crazy because of the difficulty.

@Sho Minazuki

suddenly this became a mechanic,

so yea i catch your drift, roll high, tons of commons and uncommons, Roll lower get the stronger pokemon but less of them...

[Sho Minazuki]

Well, I'm going off of a d20.

If you roll a 1, it's dangerous as hell, you'll see high levels, but not just any. They're aggressive.

That said, you can ask for a different 'favorable' situation if a 20 is rolled, like rather than loads of commons, or lowered rarity, you can try and ask for a specific encounter.

It's just a little fun mechanic for adventuring.

[The Red Seelie]

Well, I'm going off of a d20.

If you roll a 1, it's dangerous as hell, you'll see high levels, but not just any. They're aggressive.

That said, you can ask for a different 'favorable' situation if a 20 is rolled, like rather than loads of commons, or lowered rarity, you can try and ask for a specific encounter.

It's just a little fun mechanic for adventuring.

@Sho Minazuki

Nice, that is something i can get behind,

*on a sidenote ill be on pokemon showdown checking pokemon stats while making the johto list*

because thats the life of a co-gm

XD

[Sho Minazuki]

I'm not even co-GM. I was just part of a pretty well-designed Pokemon RP before this one. They actually thought of everything.

But we need to discuss level. Does our GM have an idea? Stats are easy enough, but we're going with the 4-moveset rule. In the RP I was in before, we would get the Pokemon's whole moveset available to use up to a certain level, so we had as many as a dozen moves.

So this is new, how do we handle the 4 moveset rule? Do we drop or keep level? How do we keep track of a Pokemon's growth? Questions.

[AbysmalDemon]

<Snipped quote by AbysmalDemon>

yea but I thought people here could at least ascertain different pokemon to different areas...

I mean you wouldn't find a Tentacruel in a forest, and you wouldn't find a Spearow under the sea...

plus the routes are described so yea.. people cna use both the list and the description of the routes as basis for what pokemon are their, plus it saves you time Abysmal because then you don't have to tell them how rare everything is.

@1Charak2

I already started telling how rare things are, but it's ok :D

So I'll stop with the rarity telling, and let you handle it instead :P

[AbysmalDemon]

I'm not even co-GM. I was just part of a pretty well-designed Pokemon RP before this one. They actually thought of everything.

But we need to discuss level. Does our GM have an idea? Stats are easy enough, but we're going with the 4-moveset rule. In the RP I was in before, we would get the Pokemon's whole moveset available to use up to a certain level, so we had as many as a dozen moves.

So this is new, how do we handle the 4 moveset rule? Do we drop or keep level? How do we keep track of a Pokemon's growth? Questions.

@Sho Minazuki

Well, we can all take a vote, or you cab just let us(The GMs) talk about it.

What I'm probably gonna say tho, is stick the the 4 move rule, because it's like that in the game, AND the anime, and the RP is going to be based more on the anime. But, idk

[The Red Seelie]

I'm not even co-GM. I was just part of a pretty well-designed Pokemon RP before this one. They actually thought of everything.

But we need to discuss level. Does our GM have an idea? Stats are easy enough, but we're going with the 4-moveset rule. In the RP I was in before, we would get the Pokemon's whole moveset available to use up to a certain level, so we had as many as a dozen moves.

So this is new, how do we handle the 4 moveset rule? Do we drop or keep level? How do we keep track of a Pokemon's growth? Questions.

@Sho Minazuki

Honestly dropping the whole moveset restrictions makes more sense. but i am not the GM

(oh and if it wasn't clear, when I said Life of a co-Gm i was referring to my self Xd and the fact i don't usually take breaks)

<Snipped quote by Sho Minazuki>

Well, we can all take a vote, or you cab just let us(The GMs) talk about it.

What I'm probably gonna say tho, is stick the the 4 move rule, because it's like that in the game, AND the anime, and the RP is going to be based more or less on the anime.

@AbysmalDemon

But Abysmal, can i put something clear for you for a sec, The reason the 4 move limit exists is for balancing in the game, now here's the thing, The anime has always been based of off the games, but if you take a more realistic look at it, theirs really no need for a 4 moveset limit because it could limit creativity, but theirs a way to keep the 4 moveset limit and not at the same time,

just say 4 moves only to be used in tournaments, contest's, etc.

just saying

[AbysmalDemon]

<Snipped quote by Sho Minazuki>

Honestly dropping the whole moveset restrictions makes more sense. but i am not the GM

(oh and if it wasn't clear, when I said Life of a co-Gm i was referring to my self Xd and the fact i don't usually take breaks)

<Snipped quote by AbysmalDemon>

But Abysmal, can i put something clear for you for a sec, The reason the 4 move limit exists is for balancing in the game, now here's the thing, The anime has always been based of off the games, but if you take a more realistic look at it, theirs really no need for a 4 moveset limit because it could limit creativity, but theirs a way to keep the 4 moveset limit and not at the same time,

just say 4 moves only to be used in tournaments, contest's, etc.

just saying

@1Charak2

I can roll with that :D

[AbysmalDemon]

Charak, on the list I'm making, do you want me to keep doing the rarity, or stop?

[Sho Minazuki]

So we're going to be going with all moves up to a certain level? I mean, of course they wouldn't have access to ALL the moves, and there's the factor that Pokemon learn moves faster when they haven't evolved.

So I think... They'll know the first x amount of moves.

Like say a 1st stage evolution of a 3-stage will know... The first 7-8 moves for reference. Then 2nd stage will know the next few, and so on. It'll be adjusted for how many evolutionary stages there are. Like for a non-evolving Pokemon they'll know a dozen or 10. One that evolves only once, will know 8 and then 12 or something like that.

You guys adjust the numbers if you like the idea. Note that they'll only know the first x number of moves from their natural moveset, even after evolving, so in some cases they may forget some moves. There are also unique cases were Pokemon only learn a few moves after evolving, like Umbreon or Espeon. In which case I don't see any problem in them learning all, except for the highest level move (there are also some that will in-game learn all right away without leveling, like ones evolved through stones besides Eeveelutions).

[The Red Seelie]

Charak, on the list I'm making, do you want me to keep doing the rarity, or stop?

@AbysmalDemon

well you could stop since im doing EVERY SINGLE GOD DANM POKEMON, but its really up to you

_raging