[OOC] Deep Ground Online (Hiatus)

[KoL]

@TheWindel

Theoretically, how long would it take for someone to non-stop grind to Lv9? Given the role he fell into, I'm planning on Nyx forcing through to the cap as soon as physically possible once Aaron sees the damage Chiyo's causing. Reason: Without a bank account he can't buy food, and he's too dedicated to the Harleys to swap colors.

@Mega Birb

Mind that, begin Lvl 9 isn't the same as being as powerful as King. Also, it would take a few days at least, that's if you were doing it through non-stop PVP.

If you want to get there by defeating Dissolutions it would take weeks, since they give much less EXP than a PC.

[ERode]

Huh, so...I wasn't even aware that everyone's bank accounts were frozen? Mind giving me some background information on that?

And huh, is there a particular reason why most people AREN'T Lvl 9, KoL? It seems like, if it only takes a few days to grind up to that level, it's REALLY easy to become Lvl 9.

[TheWendil]

And huh, is there a particular reason why most people AREN'T Lvl 9, KoL? It seems like, if it only takes a few days to grind up to that level, it's REALLY easy to become Lvl 9.

@ERode

Don't ask. Really, don't. It involved issues between authorities.

Just know people can become Level 9 if they grind for days.

[Mega Birb]

Huh, so...I wasn't even aware that everyone's bank accounts were frozen? Mind giving me some background information on that?

And huh, is there a particular reason why most people AREN'T Lvl 9, KoL? It seems like, if it only takes a few days to grind up to that level, it's REALLY easy to become Lvl 9.

@ERode

To my knowledge, an actual timeframe for levelling hasn't been established up until this point. It's also the deadline, 19th birthday gives a lot of time for grinding to happen, which is usually spaced out.

@KoL

Welp, time to bank on Aaron and Mike liking each other.

Meanwhile, everyone's blocked from countering Chiyo in the real world. She literally can't be touched and the ground she walks on is sacred at this point. If you wanted to instill a sense of hopelessness, you've done it.

[ERode]

Huh...might be a good idea to have the starting Avatar level in the CS to be higher then, because if reaching high levels is that easy, it doesn't really make sense for hardcore players that have had DGO for 2-3 years to not be higher leveled than 3.

I dunno, I haven't been in this RP for too long.

[TheWendil]

Meanwhile, everyone's blocked from countering Chiyo in the real world. She literally can't be touched and the ground she walks on is sacred at this point. If you wanted to instill a sense of hopelessness, you've done it.

@Mega Birb

It's almost like we've done our jobs. Almost.

@ERode

That could work. Too bad we're at a point that changing anything about this RP's base rules will tick off certain people and aren't worth fixing at this time.

[KoL]

Huh, so...I wasn't even aware that everyone's bank accounts were frozen? Mind giving me some background information on that?

And huh, is there a particular reason why most people AREN'T Lvl 9, KoL? It seems like, if it only takes a few days to grind up to that level, it's REALLY easy to become Lvl 9.

@ERode

Well, people can't seem to be able to have access to any digitally stored currency unless (this began right around the time of my last post as Eris, basically, so it's not something that was happening before). The reason why and how to repair it will be announced in the IC later, by Chiyo. For the time being, people should be barely aware of that, but it's already happening since it began on my last post. Just to be clear.

As for the second question. I'll be sincere, it's a few days of non-stop PVP grind, or a few weeks of non-stop PVE grind. Spread in a casual way, it would take just a few months (accounting for some defeats and thus EXP loss, along the way). The only reason most players aren't that level yet is because all of the DGO's plot so far happened in around 3 ~ 4 weeks of IC time, of which the servers have been down for at least one.

That and because originally it was very, [Redacted] Authorities Reasons. As @Lonewolf685 can attest, the EXP gain have been greatly normalized. We expect people to reach Lvl 09 sooner or later, but this can only happen if they y'know... follow the plot at least a little since the story battles are the main source of PVP EXP.

Don't worry, you are doing really well until now, but sadly certain events need to happen and affect the whole group. Hopefully people won't ignore the story even further from now on, and we can get to the point were most if not all players will be at level 9 or close to it.

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@Mega Birb

I edited Eris's part of my post already, now she's reacting in a sensible way to Aaron.

[ERode]

@KoL
Aight, is there going to be like, a message from their bank telling them their account's frozen? Or would it be more like, they go and try to buy something with their card and realize that, oh shit, their card's getting denied?

Also, is cash still a thing in this world, or is currency all digital?

[KoL]

If you wanted to instill a sense of hopelessness, you've done it.

@Mega Birb

Thanks, it looks like someone finally noticed it. This isn't a fight you win with brute force, not in the real world, at least.

[KoL]

@KoL
Aight, is there going to be like, a message from their bank telling them their account's frozen? Or would it be more like, they go and try to buy something with their card and realize that, oh shit, their card's getting denied?

Also, is cash still a thing in this world, or is currency all digital?

@ERode

Their account/credit card balance should be showing as zero, regardless of how much money they try to charge/transfer to it. So it's not like their accounts are frozen but rather like they have been picked clean and someone left a bottomless pit in their place.

There's still physical currency, but it's rare for people to have large sums of it, even more than today since automated payment methods should be the rule rather than the exception, like... Japan of today.

[Mega Birb]

@KoL@TheWindel

Welp, there's your bone for the night. Now for something I've been meaning to say for awhile.

Lately, since December, I've been actively avoiding this group in my subs because it's become a breeding ground for conflict. With Lucius gone, some of that will be cleared up, though there's still animosity here. At this point, I know a lot of it's directed at me because I'm trying to stir shit in the IC by picking fights I can't win. Why? Well the good samaritan in me wants to say it's been to establish the power threshold of some GM characters and some that deserve a victory. The realist knows that's bullshit, I'm trying to work someone into a relevant position where they carry weight with major characters. Nyx going for Verdant, Phantom going for Eclipse, hell even Torag trying to gut Graf right now. Obviously that hasn't worked at all, so my remaining option is to lie down and give up on giving the others someone to rally with, because let's face it, Strykers and their allies are fucked without a charasmatic leader. But beyond that, I can use the things my characters are good at to give them some kind of hope for victory. But am I allowed to? Let's give it a rundown.

Aaron's a people person, charasmatic and down to earth, with a great head in-game. He tried to fight off Verdant to give the Harleys some level of hope to beat back a guild that was suddenly top-tier when the canon states that the majority of the players are newbies with an extreme minority of high-levels. I'm 99% sure someone saw this as an attempted powerplay.

Jiro's on the backburner at this point, he's lost relevance with the loss of half the Stryker players. Though he stood up for what he believed in and got understandably shit on for it when he challenged EP. Still pretty sure someone thought I was trying to powerplay here.

But beyond that? I've gotten the feeling that I'm being actively worked against whenever I get an idea that's plot-relevant.

I can understand not wanting the story to go too far off the rails, but we're a community of writers that have made universes of characters that play off of each other. We all have an claim to what happens here, and at this point, that claim's getting stomped on if it deviates from the original vision at all.

I've kept my mouth shut for a year and a half at this point and this is my main gripe. I have others that are more relevant to WoT, but this is for what's here.

Tear it apart, take it personally, I don't care. I physically can't care. This was the breaking point for me.

EDIT: I'm considering just up and leaving at this point, leave someone to patch the holes and all.

[KoL]

I'll reply to this on the PM. Please, drop this OOC discussion.

[Lonewolf685]

@Flamelord@KoL

I'm not even through this entire OOC backlog but i may as well add in a small remark.

Please take a moment to consider that for all of their heady adventures in cyber space, these are high school students who have their room and board covered by their families. IE, their expenses are rather minimal outside a need for food.

Two, these are high school students who, if they have any jobs, are probably low paying so most wouldn't have any significant savings in the bank. What they lose may sting but it certainly isn't a great loss in the long run.

Three, if we factor in their low savings and low expenses, then having an empty bank account won't cause them issue for more then two weeks at most, because- I'm only guessing here until KoL clarifies- that their bank accounts arn't being actively drained. So the next time they get a paycheck or ask their parents for an advance on their allowance, they have money again.

Of course, for the people who are heavy spenders and may have loads of expenses would be drastically harmed, but that seems to me more like the people living like Chiyo. Masea? Yeah, she just needs to tighten her belt for a bit or call home for food money. Same with everyone else. Worse comes to worse, pawn some stuff. You don't need to bend the knee to Chiyo so quickly.

[Mega Birb]

@Lonewolf685

It got stated that accounts are being actively drained. Think of a hole opening under all the money you've earned in life and whatever you earn from there gets tossed right in said hole.

[KoL]

@Flamelord@KoL

I'm not even through this entire OOC backlog but i may as well add in a small remark.

Please take a moment to consider that for all of their heady adventures in cyber space, these are high school students who have their room and board covered by their families. IE, their expenses are rather minimal outside a need for food.

Two, these are high school students who, if they have any jobs, are probably low paying so most wouldn't have any significant savings in the bank. What they lose may sting but it certainly isn't a great loss in the long run.

Three, if we factor in their low savings and low expenses, then having an empty bank account won't cause them issue for more then two weeks at most, because- I'm only guessing here until KoL clarifies- that their bank accounts arn't being actively drained. So the next time they get a paycheck or ask their parents for an advance on their allowance, they have money again.

Of course, for the people who are heavy spenders and may have loads of expenses would be drastically harmed, but that seems to me more like the people living like Chiyo. Masea? Yeah, she just needs to tighten her belt for a bit or call home for food money. Same with everyone else. Worse comes to worse, pawn some stuff. You don't need to bend the knee to Chiyo so quickly.

@Lonewolf685

No, Lone, they ae being actively siphoned and you know whose fault is this and why no adults ever pay mind to it (they literally don't see a problem in the world there), no matters if it's parents or the Interpol, the world is ok in their eyes. Since you know who the real antagonist is and how he does things I hardly need to explain more. DO I?

[Lonewolf685]

@KoL

Ah, and I imagine he would stop any attempt to open an alternative account.

Well then, ignore what I said.

[Lonewolf685]

In that case there's really nothing more to be said. Have fun deciding on your courses of action, everyone. I know what I will, so I'll try to post tomorrow.

[KoL]

Sure, that should be no problem.

[Mega Birb]

Well everyone, I've had fun, but due to the recent escalation of anger and my growing resentment of posting I'll be taking my leave. NPC Aaron, Jiro, and Aderyn if need be, just leave me out of it for the time being.

[Flamelord]

In that case there's really nothing more to be said. Have fun deciding on your courses of action, everyone. I know what I will, so I'll try to post tomorrow.

@Lonewolf685

I did. It's called 'do nothing'. Very effective don't you think? The faster the war ends, the sooner life gets back to normal.