[OOC] Riverdale High

[Obscene Symphony]

@hagroden Yep! Assuming @HaleyTheRandom's okay with it, and I think she is.

[WilsonTurner]

@Obscene Symphony
Is it safe to assume that my character is gud now?

[Obscene Symphony]

@WilsonTurner Well, Haley and I discussed it and we think it might be best to go with some other power. I love the originality of your idea, and I can see you put a lot into it, but it's just a little too complex and unpredictable for an RP setting.

Trust me, I really don't mean to offend, I'm just trying to keep everything even in the scope of powers.

If you have any concerns or questions feel free to take it up with Hayley and I.

[WilsonTurner]

I...
Think I'll drop out, then.

First roleplay demands anime-only, second roleplay says my accepted power is no longer accepted because I might do something surprising.

[Sugar and Spite]

@hagroden Go ahead and move him on over!

@WilsonTurner I'm sorry to hear that. And I'm also sorry for the mishap and that we can't work this out. However, thank you for your interest.

[WilsonTurner]

@HaleyTheRandom
Work this out? You said you were uncertain, I clarified and changed, and then you said it's good. Then your coGM said it was good except for a few things, after I sent him the conversation and explained everything a bit better, and I add those few things- nearly exactly, since they were exactly the things I was going for- and you immediately (relatively) reply, saying that it's not good any more.

That's not being unable to "work things out." It's because I come up with something completely new and you not wanting me to go apeshit with it and screwing up the roleplay, because it's a difficult concept- anything quantum physics is difficult [and makes me giddy]- and could have unforseeable actions, because it can be a diverse tool. Having a power that controls metals sounds like a completely 'safe' and 'traditional' superpower, because, hey, it's metal. Like a more focused earth. Except, the modern world uses metal in practically EVERYTHING, which means that someone with power over metal would have power over weapons, communications, transportation, food, everything.

Don't call it what it's not. It's not a mishap, and it's not something that we just happened to not agree with. You agreed and he agreed and gave me no reason to think otherwise, until I finished it all up with the suggestions you two gave, and then you flatly say it's a no-go because I could surprise you with being creative.

And it annoys the hell out of me, but I wasn't originally going to say that.

[Sugar and Spite]

@WilsonTurnerAlright, let me put this is the simplest and nicest way possible.

Me or @Obscene Symphony do not think that you are not responsible. We both applaud your extreme creativity and the fact that you put so much thought into it. Yes, anything with Quantum Physic's is complicated, as with anything having to do with such a high level of understanding. The point is, there is a slight chance of god-modding, and with god-modding comes no fun for anyone. I personally, approved of the power because A.) I was slightly confused, but figured out the general idea and the fact that you would do fine with this. B.) I forgot.

None the less, you don't have to be overly defensive. We were't trying to rain on your parade, nor make you quit the Rp. We realized a few flaws, and well, shit happens and people think things over and may realize that they were wrong in the first place. Which is what happened in my case.

Your creativity was not a surprise. The surprise is the simple fact that you can do just about anything with this damned power, thus, once stated before, may result in god modding.

Meanwhile, I'm sorry you're annoyed, and in all reality, you could have said it. It doesn't offend me not the least bit as everyone has there own opinion on different subjects.

[Obscene Symphony]

@WilsonTurner There is no need to get angry. It is entirely fair to ask a player to use a different power to better suit an RP. While your idea is cool, it is poorly explained (especially now that you've deleted the sheet and I can no longer reference it) and easy to abuse. Cool and complex powers like that have their place, but in an RP setting, where yours is not the main character, it's more complicated than it needs to be.

The possibility to do something 'surprising' is great and all, but in a thread with multiple characters it's a little unfair to keep all your cards up your sleeve when others are clearly charing theirs. It opens doors for a whole bunch of rule breaking actions and a whole lot of opportunities to pull a solution out of your ass and justify it with theoretical science. But I wasn't going to say that.

By the way, I'm a girl. Thank you for your interest, I hope you can find a place for your character somewhere.

*Edit Well, it looks like I've been ninja'd, but my post still stands.

[WilsonTurner]

A) Sorry for calling you a guy
B) I'm annoyed
C) It's simple tactics. While throwing all your cards on the table is fine, I prefer something a bit deeper. Putting everything I could possible think of with this power would be lengthy. And it'd also mean that everyone else would immediately be defensive and would face my character, if they needed, knowing exactly what they were up against, and figuring on whether or not they could legitimately beat me through IC accidental discoveries and such. If no one realizes that my character can only use three useful weapons, then they will expect every weapon he uses to be deadly- if he summons a halberd, they don't know if it will actually cut them in half, or disintegrate. I have bad experiences with putting all cards on table and letting everyone trust everyone. That and I like something a bit more complex.
D) Someone who controls air could suffocate anyone. Someone who controls shadows could kill a man from the inside out, because, believe it or not, there are shadows inside one's body, because there are empty spaces inside one's body. A small dagger made out of that shadow could pierce the heart, or the intestines, and it'd be plenty enough to kill or disable. Likewise, someone who has the ability to control water could probably control the acids in one's stomach, or the liquid that is actually in our bodies. We may not be made out of complete water, but there is water present. Someone who controls earth-like elements would be able to lock anyone in place, and launch a small rock at someone that could completely shatter something. A bullet is a tiny little piece of metal. No matter how hard you throw it, it'll never pierce skill. Take that bullet and give it velocity, and it can make a man disintegrate. Any power can be overpowered. Any power can be legitimate and still be overpowered. These are superpowers- controlling the growth of plants could mean making a grove of highly poisonous plants that kill anyone that comes near, much less tries to hack through it or push through. Or just put them to sleep. Shifting into an animal would, if you did it right, mean an unmatched edge in combat.

The difference is, my power is not directly affecting. I cannot say, "You are dead because I dropped you into an alternate reality where there is nothing." I can only say, "I brought this sword, and am bringing it upon your head." Likewise, I could also say, "I have this alternate version of me, but because their power and actions take up my strength and power, I could not effectively fight with them, because their power and strength are more than mine, and so their using it would mean my collapse."

Hardy hardy har. You kicked a power that's perhaps the most harmless of them all.

I can't make a flood of water. I can't read someone's mind. I can't redirect and aim fire itself. I can't control the bloody shadows. I can't teleport, I can't heal myself, I can't do any of that. The only direct thing my power does is keep me from dying, by importing an alternate. I can form a tool or weapon, or let me wear some clothes. But I can't be nearly as 'dangerous' as any of the others.

[Obscene Symphony]

A) You're fogiven, although I don't know why my name seems so masculine
B)You're really starting to become immature here
C) Stop disrespecting our RPers by assuming they're going to be dicks.

Let me explain.

Wilson, it's obvious that a lot of powers can be used to do a lot of damage. But those extensions of one's power generally make some kind of sense to the general reader. Of course someone who controls water can affect the water inside the human body, of course someone controlling air could steal it from someone's lungs, etc. But these are clear distinctions. Quantum physics is not clear and not predictable. While it's great for a character to be unpredictable to other characters, it's not okay to hide everything from the writers. And since you refuse to explain any more about the power, it's disrespectful to those who have given the effort to describe their power and its uses.

Just as well, there's this wonderful little rule against a thing called 'Metagaming', which means inorganically using OOC information IC. If someone uses information on a feature of another character's power that they would not organically have access to IC, then that breaks this rule and the offender is dealt with accordingly. Having your power's information in the OOC does not mean that people are allowed to use that information against you. I've seen people do exactly that and it pisses me off, so personally, I'm not having any of that in here.

Just because you want your character to be special and mysterious doesn't mean you get to break the system with an unecessarily unpredictable power. To the naked eye, it looks like you're bringing physics into this to make your character seem more complex, when the exact same affect could be more reliably achieved with the use of, say, portals based in the paranormal. Of course, that doesn't really fall under the umbrella of elemental, so it just doesn't fit here.

Basically, while an elementalist character should have control over one thing (fire, darkness, light, air, etc.) your power has the capability to affect everything, because physics affects everything. It is purely and simply OP. If you want to make your character deeper, try putting more effort into his personality, or history.

By the way, it's not too hard to come up with a new power. All you need is a little creativity.

So, sorry to rain on your premature parade, but no matter how much further you want to stoop into this immaturity (I'm about done with it myself) you've officially been kicked. We don't want, or need, this type of stubborn negativity in this thread.

Congratulations! No need to keep wasting your time defending your argument. You can take that elsewhere.

[hagroden]

Shit went down it seems

[Obscene Symphony]

Shit went down it seems

@hagroden

On behalf of Haley and myself I'd like to apologize for all of that. Rest easy in the knowledge that this type of behaviour will not be tolerated any more.

[Sugar and Spite]

Indeed it will not.

[WilsonTurner]

Don't go into nation roleplaying with myself, duck, and the former Star Empires people. You'll get that crap a great deal more.

[Sugar and Spite]

Don't go into nation roleplaying with myself, duck, and the former Star Empires people. You'll get that crap a great deal more.

@WilsonTurner

I'll do whatever the hell I wish. Please get off my damned thread. I'm tired and I don't feel like dealing with the BS right now. Drop the childish bullshit.

[Sugar and Spite]

@GoddessSophia@Vantas@hagroden@Undying Curiosity

Feel free to let me know if you're still interested. I don't want to scare you guys off!

[XxLyraxX]

So sorry I havent been on, I've been busy with school and stuff. I will be on when I have more time today and will hopefully have a character up. @HaleyTheRandom

[Undying Curiosity]

Letting everyone know I'm still here.
My work schedule is very unreliable, It changes every Sunday. Until I get a full-time job, I may only be able to post at midnight(Eastern-Standard), or early in the day.

[Sugar and Spite]

Letting everyone know I'm still here.
My work schedule is very unreliable, It changes every Sunday. Until I get a full-time job, I may only be able to post at midnight(Eastern-Standard), or early in the day.

@Undying Curiosity

Thank you for letting me know what is going on ^.^ I'm sure all of us here understand real life influences, so please, do feel free to take your time.

[Mog]

@HaleyTheRandom I'm still up for this, but I've just had a lot to deal with lately... And by the looks of this thread, you've had a lot to deal with too.