[OOC] Multiverse Rising (Always in need of New Friends)

[Mtntopview]

And so Do I

>:}

[thewizardguy]

@Absolis
Bits of apocalypse skin are ridiculously tough, but soft. As such they make shit projectiles. The old 'indestructibilium can only be pierced by itself' rule doesn't apply when the material is soft. If you were able to get some Apocalypse bone, sure, but keep into account that Apocalypse's bones are able to withstand more than 100x as much force as his flesh. And his flesh can stop tank cannons with ease.

[Absolis]

That is true... though, if Cyano could gather some, get away from apocalypse, and then condense the skin into something much harder it would be more then enough. But if it's soft, then just picking raw apocalypse skin up probably wouldn't pierce now that I think about it.

[thewizardguy]

Speaking of which, I'm currently not entirely sure where to send Apocalypse. I'd have to send him somewhere he wouldn't kill anyone, so nowhere with chars that can't at least fend him off. I'd send him to the Goa'ul, but I'm unsure of their power level atm. So if anyone wants Apocalypse not to be sent to their location, or has an idea for where to put him, I'd like to know.

[thewizardguy]

@Absolis
Apocalypse's skin can't be hardened, logically. It's described in the comics as being denser and heavier than lead, and yet softer as well. It defies the standard laws of physics, but so does everything.

[thewizardguy]

@Absolis
The problem is that vibranium's strength is variable. Captain America's shield has taken damage from blows from Mjolnir and held, and Mjolnir has enough force to crush moons. That's like a hundred nukes to the face. And yet this island was blown up with relatively standard explosives. So maybe it's because cap's shield is a vibranium titanium alloy, but it seems the strength of vibranium is as inconsistent as Superman's strength.

[Mtntopview]

@thewizardguy

I'm curious how he would stand up to Dark Energon

[Absolis]

@Absolis
Apocalypse's skin can't be hardened, logically. It's described in the comics as being denser and heavier than lead, and yet softer as well. It defies the standard laws of physics, but so does everything.

@thewizardguy

That's an interesting little tidbit to know. Though theres still the fact that Cyano knows about the fact that his eye is soft and leads directly to his brain. Thanks to the ethereal recording the battle between the two.

[Absolis]

@Absolis
The problem is that vibranium's strength is variable. Captain America's shield has taken damage from blows from Mjolnir and held, and Mjolnir has enough force to crush moons. That's like a hundred nukes to the face. And yet this island was blown up with relatively standard explosives. So maybe it's because cap's shield is a vibranium titanium alloy, but it seems the strength of vibranium is as inconsistent as Superman's strength.

@thewizardguy

I think it would be good to go with the vibranium that can be destroyed with normal explosives, as it gives a nice parallel to Saber Cloth.

Which can be summed up as
Put vibranium in a 10 million ton explosion, and everything is destroyed

Put Saber cloth in a 10 million ton explosion, and the person is destroyed, while the Saber cloth floats away on the wind.

[Absolis]

I'm also going to assue ultrons body would be made out of the same mix as captain Americas shield. Since he did get quite a bit of vibranium, but with its rarity I doubt enough to fully build himself a full body without something thrown into the mix.

[thewizardguy]

@Mtntopview
Dark Energon, from what I can find on it, only affects mechanical beings.

@Absolis
During that battle, that was indeed a weakness. Although his eyes can still withstand tank cannon level attacks. It would certainly be amusing to see Cyano trying to kill Apocalypse, although in a direct physical confrontation I doubt she would last long.

[Absolis]

@Mtntopview
Dark Energon, from what I can find on it, only affects mechanical beings.

@Absolis
During that battle, that was indeed a weakness. Although his eyes can still withstand tank cannon level attacks. It would certainly be amusing to see Cyano trying to kill Apocalypse, although in a direct physical confrontation I doubt she would last long.

@thewizardguy

At max augmentation she can move as fast as apocalypse. Though it puts a ton of strain on her when she switches out for psychic shielding. Though she is only 3/4 as strong. And I developed a little scale for how many punches she could take

1: broken bones. Still able to fight relatively well. Powers through pain

2: internal organs damaged. Internal bleeding at dangerous levels. Dizziness, nausea, slowing of motor functions.

3: internal organs destroyed. Brain smashed against the side of the skull opposite to apocalypse. Bones turned to dust. Death.

[Absolis]

At max augmentation for all of it mind you.

[Mtntopview]

@thewizardguy

Dark Energon affects anything that exists. It's the blood of Unicron, and like its ... Generator ... Seeks to completely annihilate everything in comes into contact with.

There was an instance in Prime where a human was affected by Dark Energon. He lived only because he was a main character. And they canceled it by adding Energon, which stabilized him.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Dark_Energon

[Absolis]

There's also the fact that if apocalypse was working with anyone with psychic powers, if they were decently good with them, then Cyano probably would die. One on one with apocalypse though, and she could put up a fight at the very least. If she won or survived she would be extremely vulnerable for at least as lon as it took apocalypse to regenerate, but she could put up a fight.

[Mtntopview]

I'm off for night. Bye.

[Absolis]

As soon as I make this post I probably will be as well.

[Absolis]

Also, this is why I like RP. I had a very nice discussion on several things, learned quite a few things I wouldn't have known, broadened my knowledge on the workings of several things, and overall found it very pleasing. I also hopefully taught a little bit as well. So that's nice. Overall, it's been a rather nice night.

[thewizardguy]

@Mtntopview
The link you linked shows a list of effects. And yet all of them seem to exclusively apply to mechanical beings.

@Absolis
That might make it a slightly more interesting fight. Do keep in mind that Apocalypse's speed is actually greater than it was at first, currently at bout 400 m/s (mach 1.2). His strength was increased by the same factor when he regenerated from his first defeat, and he will continue to increase in power with every regeneration.

[Punished Homura]

You could send apocalypse to another universe that has been applied.