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Alright.


Good stuff, also.

Personality: Metz has a strange, almost erratic personality. At one time incredibly stern or sombre he can rapidly change to making odd jokes or dark comments. One can only assume Dark Mana has had some degenerative effect on his mind, changing whatever personality the original man had forever.

Personality Description: Khazna personality can be described as somewhat erratic. He often seems carefree, lighthearted, often joking or making light of even the most dangerous of threats. Khazna often makes himself appear to be foolish or dim. He does this seemingly to cause others to underestimate him. His jabs are often aimed to cause rivals to make mistakes when brought to wrath.


I see you continue to copy my style. :K

Also I think you having your leg behind you made me think you had your right shoulder facing me.
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Good stuff, also.

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I see you continue to copy my style. :K

Also I think you having your leg behind you made me think you had your right shoulder facing me.


Erratic personality is best personality.

Having his left leg behind would have put him -slightly- facing with his right shoulder, not much though.

Metz and Khazna would probably have pretty interesting conversations. There are -some- slight interlaps between their respective histories.
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That's why I wanted the tea party. But then Skalla had to blow up his lobby. Well he can't complain about interesting interactions going on in his lobby's now.
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That's why I wanted the tea party. But then Skalla had to blow up his lobby. Well he can't complain about interesting interactions going on in his lobby's now.


I suppose you might still consider the huge brawl breaking out an interesting interaction.

I was sad that in the interest of prompt-ness there wasn't time for more conversation in the lobby though.
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I don't really understand why Khazna would abandon the momentum of his strike to grab a sword even further away from his enemy once he's already inside his guard. Also, it's a little harsh to suggest Metz was ignoring the particles, you said they were only beginning to form when your sword passed through them. It was a bit of a leap from beginning to form to fully formed when my post was technically an interrupt, but whatever.
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I don't really understand why Khazna would abandon the momentum of his strike to grab a sword even further away from his enemy once he's already inside his guard. Also, it's a little harsh to suggest Metz was ignoring the particles, you said they were only beginning to form when your sword passed through them. It was a bit of a leap from beginning to form to fully formed when my post was technically an interrupt, but whatever.


He did it preemptively before he entered his guard. Thus forcing him to bypass the second swords tip. Also the blades form very quickly, (four formed in the time it took for your lightening to reach) he cut before coming into range previously.
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Btw, how fast did Metz accelerate forward? In MPH if you please.
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He did it preemptively before he entered his guard. Thus forcing him to bypass the second swords tip. Also the blades form very quickly, (four formed in the time it took for your lightening to reach) he cut before coming into range previously.


The clone sword would have been further away from Metz than the original though, as you said it was 'off to his right' so even if Khazna recognised his original strike was not going to be fast enough, it didn't make sense to grab a new sword out of thin-air and strike from further away with that. I also don't really see how the second sword would be in Metz' way. You said the swords were clones, so presumably it cloned Khazna's sword as he cut with it, which would mean it would just be at an earlier stage in his cut.

Also, your character should be out of position really, he overextended trying to strike at a crouching man from six feet away.

You can ask Skallagrim for a ruling, he has more experience with this sort of thing. I don't really claim to understand how your character's abilities work but I don't really see how a vague mentioning of a sword forming in the dust where your sword was cutting has somehow translated into a surprise sword attack directly in front of Metz.
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Btw, how fast did Metz accelerate forward? In MPH if you please.


I have no idea. Metz can run at around 45mph when using Pure Mana, but that isn't really related to how powerfully he can launch himself off the ground. Considering he has what essentially amounts to Supernatural strength he's probably moving at about thrice the speed an Olympic Athlete can start off the blocks in a sprint.
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The clone sword would have been further away from Metz than the original though, as you said it was 'off to his right' so even if Khazna recognised his original strike was not going to be fast enough, it didn't make sense to grab a new sword out of thin-air and strike from further away with that. I also don't really see how the second sword would be in Metz' way. You said the swords were clones, so presumably it cloned Khazna's sword as he cut with it, which would mean it would just be at an earlier stage in his cut.

Also, your character should be out of position really, he overextended trying to strike at a crouching man from six feet away.

You can ask Skallagrim for a ruling, he has more experience with this sort of thing. I don't really claim to understand how your character's abilities work but I don't really see how a vague mentioning of a sword forming in the dust where your sword was cutting has somehow translated into a surprise sword attack directly in front of Metz.


Yes an earlier stage in his cut which means it can easily be angled in front of him. I don't really see the confusion but maybe I'm just dumb.

Btw, My character is not over extended, you only accounted for his arm and weapon reach, but not his legs. At only half a step you have three feet to make use of. You never just move your arm when using a sword. (the average stride being around 5 feet. At least for men)

I only have 18 mins left today so I'll post up tomorrow.
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'He stopped some six feet away stepping forward with his right leg'

See, this was ambiguous to me, when I write how my character stops I'd have written he had stopped with his right foot forward, so this is what I took you to mean here. If you intended for him to step forward after stopping it would have been useful to have said he stopped six feet away, then he stepped forward with his right leg to cut. Instead you put the two actions together which left it up in the air what he was doing. Even an extra detail like how far forward he stepped would have prevented my confusion, because from what I read it just looks like he tried to cut at a crouching man from six feet away.

Trust me, I don't want to be confused, but it's always the smallest details that make the biggest difference.
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Well it does say he's stepping forward with his right leg from 6 feet away. I mean he would never even reach you otherwise, having a max 5 foot reach without his body moving. Oh well.
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Well it does say he's stepping forward with his right leg from 6 feet away. I mean he would never even reach you otherwise, having a max 5 foot reach without his body moving. Oh well.


Well, it does say he stopped six feet away. Why didn't you use then Khan. GODDAMNIT WHY KHAN.

THEN HE STEPPED FORWARD KHAN

THEN

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Well, it does say he stopped six feet away. Why didn't you use then Khan. GODDAMNIT WHY KHAN.

THEN HE STEPPED FORWARD KHAN

THEN


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So for this wrist grab, he's trying to twist backwards? But in what direction? Your backwards my backwards? Seems a tad vague.(and it seems to me he changed what he did from a simple block with an arm into an actuarial wrist grab again even though he abandoned that very act.) And he's using his arm to block the blade burst? I'll also add that must be the most uncomfortable wrist grab for him seeing as Taby's position means Metz's arm is inside his guard. Unless that's not a thing anymore for some reason.

Also wouldn't the path of his dagger have Tablurath's right arm still in the way? Unless he pulled his arm back before he closed the distance.
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So for this wrist grab, he's trying to twist backwards? But in what direction? Your backwards my backwards? Seems a tad vague.(and it seems to me he changed what he did from a simple block with an arm into an actuarial wrist grab again even though he abandoned that very act.) And he's using his arm to block the blade burst? I'll also add that must be the most uncomfortable wrist grab for him seeing as Taby's position means Metz's arm is inside his guard. Unless that's not a thing anymore for some reason.

Also wouldn't the path of his dagger have Tablurath's right arm still in the way? Unless he pulled his arm back before he closed the distance.


If Tab is standing roughly facing Metz (as Metz is charging his open body) then backwards would be to his right, though it's not really important as the current situation has both fighters wrestling for control, its essentially just a grapple. It wouldn't be that hard to transition from a fore-arm block to a wrist grapple after they made contact, as far as I know it's pretty standard practice for disarming.

Metz isn't really using his arm to block the blade burst, his arm just gets in the way as he's grappling because the arm is between the blade and Metz face. You have to imagine Metz still being somewhat lower than he should be because he's essentially keeping fairly low to strike low at the body, or at least was until the most recent post.

The whole movement is one action, it makes more sense if you imagine him ramming the blade upwards with his right hand while his left twists, faces Tab's and then yanks down while bending. Not that Metz really has the strength to outright overpower Tab, though he is slightly stronger I think.

I'm not sure how your character's right arm would be in the way unless we're imagining the scene differently somehow. Metz is driving his blade up immediately after his jab, which took place simultaneously to the blade exploding. (which in turn required Tab's own arm to be up away from his body)

The only way Tab's arm would be in the way would be if he completely overcame Metz strength and managed to yank his arm back like he intended in the time it took his knife to richochet and shoot upwards, which seems unlikely as Metz is the stronger.
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If Tab is standing roughly facing Metz (as Metz is charging his open body) then backwards would be to his right, though it's not really important as the current situation has both fighters wrestling for control, its essentially just a grapple. It wouldn't be that hard to transition from a fore-arm block to a wrist grapple after they made contact, as far as I know it's pretty standard practice for disarming.

Metz isn't really using his arm to block the blade burst, his arm just gets in the way as he's grappling because the arm is between the blade and Metz face. You have to imagine Metz still being somewhat lower than he should be because he's essentially keeping fairly low to strike low at the body, or at least was until the most recent post.

The whole movement is one action, it makes more sense if you imagine him ramming the blade upwards with his right hand while his left twists, faces Tab's and then yanks down while bending. Not that Metz really has the strength to outright overpower Tab, though he is slightly stronger I think.

I'm not sure how your character's right arm would be in the way unless we're imagining the scene differently somehow. Metz is driving his blade up immediately after his jab, which took place simultaneously to the blade exploding. (which in turn required Tab's own arm to be up away from his body)

The only way Tab's arm would be in the way would be if he completely overcame Metz strength and managed to yank his arm back like he intended in the time it took his knife to richochet and shoot upwards, which seems unlikely as Metz is the stronger.


Alright, the position of his head would have been nice to know earlier. I was just wondering how he transitioned to a wrist grab since I imagined the back of his forearm against the inside of my characters forearm. (Thus both palms facing the same direction, only Tab's hand is facing Metz's since he was trying to avoid Tab using the sword.)

In my mind I have Tab standing with the right side of his body facing Metz's, basically he'd have his right leg between metz's legs. I just imagined him pushing upward right after his jab. Which left the blade slightly behind tab and under his right arm.

Where did you have Metz in relation to Tab assuming the latter was in the center of a clock?

Also I added Metz's strength score earlier and based on multiplying his base score by 3 (assuming his mana boost is neutral until it ends). Which left them more or less equal in strength. I originally thought it would be more.



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The transition in the wrist grab would literally just require him to spin his arm around and drag it down while remaining in contact.

Yeah that's not how I imagined it, Tab swung in from right to left stepping in on his right foot, Metz darted (his right) rightward to avoid the strike and then stepped in facing Tab's body, so he's facing Tab's body and they're roughly standing face on, there wouldn't be any reason for Tab's leg to be between Metz unless he stepped at any point, which I don't remember you doing. Considering Tab is so quick I'm not really sure why you let it get to this stage, he could have just ran away at any point up until this grapple and swung his sword.

Metz would probably be at Tab's 1 or 2 o'clock roughly.

Because Metz knife is curved the blade rebounded straight up rather than slashing past Tab, though I see where you're coming from and with a normal knife that probably would have happened (especially if Tab twisted or otherwise moved the strike away.) However, Metz position and his overall intention would override that in this case.

Metz strength in pounds is roughly 660, which puts him just slightly stronger than Tab, though it probably wouldn't be enough to be noticeable in this situation.
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I still don't understand the arm blocking the sword bit though, If his arm is in front of him he'd be blocking his own line of sight. Unless he's staring at the ground head forward.

Edit: Oh well I'm posting. I do need to start training for close quarters combat.
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I still don't understand the arm blocking the sword bit though, If his arm is in front of him he'd be blocking his own line of sight. Unless he's staring at the ground head forward.


It's off to his left and above him (because he expected Khazna to drive the sword downwards into his back like he was holding a giant knife.) until he twists it round to initiate the grapple then it blocks the sword. I had to make a rough estimation because a lot of things in this confrontation are pretty much up in the air. Your character's powers aren't the easiest to imagine in this sort of close encounter.

Also, isn't your character technically indestructible? If he can create these clone swords at the speed of light and then explode them instantaneously I'm not entirely sure how anyone is supposed to actually hurt him considering the only avenue for attack seems to be at melee range. Save for carrying a machine gun into battle, a machine gun would be nice right now. Though Skallagrim nerfed guns in that fashion, so really your character has no particular weakness in this tournament.
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