No, I'm saying that a game in a franchise called Grand Theft Auto will sell crazy good numbers because every single main series entry since GTA 3 has sold more than the one before it. GTA 5 also had the benefit of coming out on two different console generations which isn't going to hurt sales whatsoever. So I suppose in this case then yes, a well known sequel will do better than the original because that's been the case with the main line GTA games since 2001.
But just because sales go up one after the other. YOU CAN'T ASSUME, it will always stay that way, WOW went up for quite a while and STILL has good numbers but has been plummeting for a while, but spoken word CAN, sell and kill, a games sales...That includes controversy.
Yeah that's the reason. The ending is why it sold more in the first month than ME2. You're leaving out the part where ME 2 wasn't multiplatform at first which is a factor in its sales figures. ME3's problems are bigger than its ending so let's stop saying that the ending ruined things, k?
Ending didn't help, and just because it wasn't it's only problem you CANNOT deny that was the biggest conterversy of the game. I don't even give a damn about Mass effect, nor is that particular important to my point.
Dead Space is also not a major franchise in the same vein as GTA or COD or, you know, major franchises that make huge bank. Dead Space 3 is a bad game. Dead Space 2 is a less bad game.
FFS fine, what are we arguing then? That good games automatically sell better than bad games?
Beyond Good & Evil sold worse than Duke Nukem Forever.
Beyond Good & Evil > Duke Nukem Forever.
Getting into the weeds, but the point you're making isn't right...
Even with things like COD.
Ghost made less than Black Ops 2. But with your logic, its a sequel so it should be receiving double the amount of people like GTA V right?
Dark Souls is a niche franchise to begin with and Dark Souls 2 is not a good game.
Doesn't remotely change the fact, and games like that can make plently of sales, bloodbourne made 2 mil sales.
I haven't played, but metacritic 91/100 / User 8.2/10
Point is still made.
At least Huniepop is funny.
Meidocre is pretty generous. No one cared about Hatred even if they bought it. Controversy gets attention, but controversy doesn't sell millions of copies. Huniepop is a cute game and I didn't pay for it and got exactly what I wanted from it.
My roommate loved Huniepop, and I'll admit it looked funny. But played neither. So neither here nor there. Hype culture can certainly get people to purchase stuff that isn't very good, look at something like Alien Colonial Marines as one example.
(Over 1 million copies sold) Metacritic 45/100 / User 3.0/10
AND are you seriously telling me controversy can't sell? How about the fuck awful comedy movie that North Korea tried to ban. Your telling me that DIDN'T SELL MILLIONS OF COPIES?!? (Because I can tell you right now, it more than likely did.)
foodworldnews.com/articles/12594/20141..
Show me where the controversy behind GTA 5 (and what controversy was there? The lack of a female protagonist thing? Or the same bullshit that every GTA game gets in regards to violence and stuff) is what let it get such high sales and day one numbers. I am literally actually right now telling you that the supposed 'where's the female playable characters' discussion did, in no way, boost that games sales to such an astronomical degree. Do you think the No Russian level in Modern Warfare 2 made that game sell so well?
Controversy doesn't sell things in such high volume. You're seriously overestimating the influence gamergoobers and ess jays have on the gaming world.
Once again, you are showing that you are very unknowing of this topic and shouldn't be looking down at people for knowledge or you are being disingenuous...
reaxxion.com/2643/australian-sjws-lied..
youtube.com/watch?v=rvJ1StFJ9g8 (SJWS/Feminists tried to spin a narrative of getting points for raping women and events where you rape woman and they were fucking lying.)
There's probably far more as well...and no not every piece of controversy makes things sell, your right about that, like negative reviews don't give the games free press. But, it's wrong to say games like Huniepop, didn't benefit from people whining about it. Because it most certainly did.
reaxxion.com/5639/huniepop-devs-heap-r.. (If you care enough to research the exact dates feel free, but I can guartuee you, whining can make difference...From getting develops to stop being shitheads or to backfire immensely and buy things almost out of spite.)
GTA 4 has sold 25 million units but sure, only mention the week one numbers there.
My point remains valid...double the sales despite other sequels not doing as well. Name recognition is NOT all that there is to it. Nor does a good game sequel related to better sales. That was my point. And it is quite correct. I messed up a number, doesn't not invalidate what I said...Trying to deny that, is being beyond disingenuous.
I mean, if you want the topic to die just do what I do and ignore both sides of the coin because both sides are full of chodes.
But you're not what so ever trying to ignore it. Your apart of it and you were being condesceding to something you were not even right about...It clear certain people are circle jerking this topic and its not going anywhere. And yeah both sides may be full of idiots, but one side's main point is not correct.
But just because sales go up one after the other. YOU CAN'T ASSUME, it will always stay that way, WOW went up for quite a while and STILL has good numbers but has been plummeting for a while, but spoken word CAN, sell and kill, a games sales...That includes controversy.
Yeah that's the reason. The ending is why it sold more in the first month than ME2. You're leaving out the part where ME 2 wasn't multiplatform at first which is a factor in its sales figures. ME3's problems are bigger than its ending so let's stop saying that the ending ruined things, k?
Ending didn't help, and just because it wasn't it's only problem you CANNOT deny that was the biggest conterversy of the game. I don't even give a damn about Mass effect, nor is that particular important to my point.
Dead Space is also not a major franchise in the same vein as GTA or COD or, you know, major franchises that make huge bank. Dead Space 3 is a bad game. Dead Space 2 is a less bad game.
FFS fine, what are we arguing then? That good games automatically sell better than bad games?
Beyond Good & Evil sold worse than Duke Nukem Forever.
Beyond Good & Evil > Duke Nukem Forever.
Getting into the weeds, but the point you're making isn't right...
Even with things like COD.
Ghost made less than Black Ops 2. But with your logic, its a sequel so it should be receiving double the amount of people like GTA V right?
Dark Souls is a niche franchise to begin with and Dark Souls 2 is not a good game.
Doesn't remotely change the fact, and games like that can make plently of sales, bloodbourne made 2 mil sales.
I haven't played, but metacritic 91/100 / User 8.2/10
Point is still made.
At least Huniepop is funny.
Meidocre is pretty generous. No one cared about Hatred even if they bought it. Controversy gets attention, but controversy doesn't sell millions of copies. Huniepop is a cute game and I didn't pay for it and got exactly what I wanted from it.
My roommate loved Huniepop, and I'll admit it looked funny. But played neither. So neither here nor there. Hype culture can certainly get people to purchase stuff that isn't very good, look at something like Alien Colonial Marines as one example.
(Over 1 million copies sold) Metacritic 45/100 / User 3.0/10
AND are you seriously telling me controversy can't sell? How about the fuck awful comedy movie that North Korea tried to ban. Your telling me that DIDN'T SELL MILLIONS OF COPIES?!? (Because I can tell you right now, it more than likely did.)
foodworldnews.com/articles/12594/20141..
Show me where the controversy behind GTA 5 (and what controversy was there? The lack of a female protagonist thing? Or the same bullshit that every GTA game gets in regards to violence and stuff) is what let it get such high sales and day one numbers. I am literally actually right now telling you that the supposed 'where's the female playable characters' discussion did, in no way, boost that games sales to such an astronomical degree. Do you think the No Russian level in Modern Warfare 2 made that game sell so well?
Controversy doesn't sell things in such high volume. You're seriously overestimating the influence gamergoobers and ess jays have on the gaming world.
Once again, you are showing that you are very unknowing of this topic and shouldn't be looking down at people for knowledge or you are being disingenuous...
reaxxion.com/2643/australian-sjws-lied..
youtube.com/watch?v=rvJ1StFJ9g8 (SJWS/Feminists tried to spin a narrative of getting points for raping women and events where you rape woman and they were fucking lying.)
There's probably far more as well...and no not every piece of controversy makes things sell, your right about that, like negative reviews don't give the games free press. But, it's wrong to say games like Huniepop, didn't benefit from people whining about it. Because it most certainly did.
reaxxion.com/5639/huniepop-devs-heap-r.. (If you care enough to research the exact dates feel free, but I can guartuee you, whining can make difference...From getting develops to stop being shitheads or to backfire immensely and buy things almost out of spite.)
GTA 4 has sold 25 million units but sure, only mention the week one numbers there.
My point remains valid...double the sales despite other sequels not doing as well. Name recognition is NOT all that there is to it. Nor does a good game sequel related to better sales. That was my point. And it is quite correct. I messed up a number, doesn't not invalidate what I said...Trying to deny that, is being beyond disingenuous.
I mean, if you want the topic to die just do what I do and ignore both sides of the coin because both sides are full of chodes.
But you're not what so ever trying to ignore it. Your apart of it and you were being condesceding to something you were not even right about...It clear certain people are circle jerking this topic and its not going anywhere. And yeah both sides may be full of idiots, but one side's main point is not correct.