[OOC] The Duel Tower: The first year students. (A Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Academy Roleplay.) [Axed]

[Ammokkx]

Oh, by the way, for Angelo and Camryn, they were able to see that duel on a screen had they paid attention to it.

[SillyPhilly]

Darn I didn't realize you'd be openin this so soon.

Guess I gotta brainstorm.

[Ammokkx]

Darn I didn't realize you'd be openin this so soon.

Guess I gotta brainstorm.

@SillyPhilly

Stuff with Maisy was going nowhere. Leander, Vincent, Tsukiko and Megan were pretty much done. Not much left to do with that event.

[The Red Seelie]

Splashable Rank 4 Xyz woot.

Name: Ruby Fire Kyuubi
Level/rank: 4
Attribute: Fire
Monster Type: Beast/Effect/Xyz
Effect:
1 Level 4 Fire Monster + 1 Level 4 Monster
Once per turn you can detach 1 Xyz material from this card to target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls. Inflict damage to your opponent equal to half of that monsters ATK
ATK/DEF: 2000 / 1200

[Scarifar]

Hey Charak, post with Vincent so I can do stuff with Leander.

I might also try to find something to do with Michelle too...

[EviiPaladin]

Not to be 'that guy' but Xyz have always required the materials to follow the same restrictions. As such, the materials should probably be 2 Level 4 FIRE Monsters or 2 Level 4 Monsters.

[Xeiyenreisha]

@Xeiyenreisha

yes I still plan on Duelling Tsukiko.

Vincent is probably gonna start making his way downstairs to either just wonder after getting leander some help.

It would be the ultimate in dick moves to leave him there.

Now that I think about it that fits great

@1Charak2

I got her headed in Vincent's direction if he's still on the flight of stairs that person she thought she heard should be him. Shinrei and Hayato are both chasing a needle in a haystack which makes me LOL.

[The Red Seelie]

Not to be 'that guy' but Xyz have always required the materials to follow the same restrictions. As such, the materials should probably be 2 Level 4 FIRE Monsters or 2 Level 4 Monsters.

@EviiPaladin

I actually kinda knew this when i was making it. Yet then again I didn't want it to be too splashable or too restricted, because when your playing a multi element deck. 2 level 4 fire monsters can be a bit of a pain.

So I might as well CHANGE the effect to continue itself while still being able to be summoned by other card combinations.

Name: Ruby Fire Kyuubi
Level/rank: 4
Attribute: Fire
Monster Type: Beast/Effect/Xyz
Effect:
2 Level 4 Monsters
If this Monster has a Fire Attribute monster as a Xyz material it gains the following effect;
Once per turn you can detach 1 Xyz material from this card to target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls. Inflict damage to your opponent equal to half of that monsters ATK
ATK/DEF: 2000 / 1200

[Ammokkx]

Not to be 'that guy' but Xyz have always required the materials to follow the same restrictions. As such, the materials should probably be 2 Level 4 FIRE Monsters or 2 Level 4 Monsters.

@EviiPaladin

To be fair, I've made an exception before with there having to be 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monster for another Xyz Monster he created.

[The Red Seelie]

Hey Charak, post with Vincent so I can do stuff with Leander.

I might also try to find something to do with Michelle too...

@Scarifar

I was waiting for some more posts and now that they have happened. I'll get right on to it.

[The Red Seelie]

Done it now

[LunarStandard]

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To be fair, I've made an exception before with there having to be 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monster for another Xyz Monster he created.

@Ammokkx

With all due respect, can't you just change it like how Charak changed Kyuubi? It just leaves a bad taste because that's not really how Xyz Monsters work.

[Ammokkx]

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With all due respect, can't you just change it like how Charak changed Kyuubi? It just leaves a bad taste because that's not really how Xyz Monsters work.

@LunarStandard

*shrug* To be fair, There's some cards created here that simply would not work IRL because the card text is too long. We're not following reality down to the nitty gritty, card text just has to be correct and balanced. And it's not like Konami never had the choice to make them like that, they just haven't done so yet. Honestly, you weren't really supposed to send fusion materials from your field to your deck until contacts came out either or use mask change to summon a fusion monster that can't even be summoned otherwise. There will always be exceptions to the rule.

[LunarStandard]

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*shrug* To be fair, There's some cards created here that simply would not work IRL because the card text is too long. We're not following reality down to the nitty gritty, card text just has to be correct and balanced. And it's not like Konami never had the choice to make them like that, they just haven't done so yet. Honestly, you weren't really supposed to send fusion materials from your field to your deck until contacts came out either or use mask change to summon a fusion monster that can't even be summoned otherwise. There will always be exceptions to the rule.

@Ammokkx

Yeah, but Contact Fusion and Mask Change are pretty much evolved mechanics that border on being something new entirely, kind of like Rank-Up and Accel Synchro, with appropriately flashy introductions in the anime or manga. And yeah, Konami certainly had the chance to make Xyz Monsters like this, but they haven't, and saying they haven't done so yet is just speculation. Konami could have taken Xyz Monsters down the path of Fusions and Synchros by requiring different materials, but they didn't, and that's probably because they have a specific idea of what Xyz Monsters should be. By the way, I think you might be underestimating just how small card text can be.

[Ammokkx]

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Yeah, but Contact Fusion and Mask Change are pretty much evolved mechanics that border on being something new entirely, kind of like Rank-Up and Accel Synchro, with appropriately flashy introductions in the anime or manga. And yeah, Konami certainly had the chance to make Xyz Monsters like this, but they haven't, and saying they haven't done so yet is just speculation. Konami could have taken Xyz Monsters down the path of Fusions and Synchros by requiring different materials, but they didn't, and that's probably because they have a specific idea of what Xyz Monsters should be. By the way, I think you might be underestimating just how small card text can be.

@LunarStandard

I'm not. There's a reason I outright rejected a certain card, it was more like a novel rather than anything else.

Also, the anime-only monster that was a Rank 13 was a thing. Please tell me how you're going to summon that with actual Xyz materials. Or Dark Synchros, those were pretty wonky too. I know the idea behind Xyz, but if we're really going down that path, then there's a clear divide between specifics and splashable materials. There's a ton of generic rank 4's, but then some require actual named cards (hello fiend eagle). I'd consider this just another way of specifying what type of monster you need. I mean, you could use those very same monsters to Xyz Summon Exciton Knight and Castel. Hardly fair imo.

[LunarStandard]

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I'm not. There's a reason I outright rejected a certain card, it was more like a novel rather than anything else.

Also, the anime-only monster that was a Rank 13 was a thing. Please tell me how you're going to summon that with actual Xyz materials. Or Dark Synchros, those were pretty wonky too. I know the idea behind Xyz, but if we're really going down that path, then there's a clear divide between specifics and splashable materials. There's a ton of generic rank 4's, but then some require actual named cards (hello fiend eagle). I'd consider this just another way of specifying what type of monster you need. I mean, you could use those very same monsters to Xyz Summon Exciton Knight and Castel. Hardly fair imo.

@Ammokkx

Ancient Dragon, Greed Quasar, Hermit of Prophecy, etc.

And those anime-only cards remained anime-only for a reason. I honestly don't see how they relate to what we're discussing since we are talking about the game as we are trying to play completely unscripted. And yes, some Xyz Monsters require specific named materials, but those materials have the same requirements, which is the point I'm trying to make. It's fine if it's just specifying the materials required, I'm saying that we should follow precedence and make those requirements the same. And yeah, Exciton and Castel are super splashable and versatile Xyz Monsters, but I'm not discussing that the card is OP, I'm saying that it's just not how Xyz Monsters work.

[Eklispe]

*_{Wants to join argument, does not want to escalate argument. Quietly fumes to self while making feelings known.}*

[Ammokkx]

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Ancient Dragon, Greed Quasar, Hermit of Prophecy, etc.

And those anime-only cards remained anime-only for a reason. I honestly don't see how they relate to what we're discussing since we are talking about the game as we are trying to play completely unscripted. And yes, some Xyz Monsters require specific named materials, but those materials have the same requirements, which is the point I'm trying to make. It's fine if it's just specifying the materials required, I'm saying that we should follow precedence and make those requirements the same. And yeah, Exciton and Castel are super splashable and versatile Xyz Monsters, but I'm not discussing that the card is OP, I'm saying that it's just not how Xyz Monsters work.

@LunarStandard

The reason I'm bringing up Anime-only is because this RP isn't the real world either. It's set in a world based on the five animes. I also get your point on making the requirements the same, but it's not like I asked to use a rank 6 and a rank 8. For all intents and purposes they're still rank 4's with just different attributes. I'm not arguing OPness either, hell, the cards aren't that good. I'm just trying to say that whilst yes, Konami didn't do this, there's no indication that it couldn't be done. There's been instances of them breaking their own rules in their own fictional universes, so why can't we do the same? That's my question.

*_{Wants to join argument, does not want to escalate argument. Quietly fumes to self while making feelings known.}*

@Eklispe

If you have an opinion, share it. Honestly, if more people than just Lunar and Scarifar are against it(or they manage to change my mind) I'll change it. I don't want to be a complete prick either.

[The Red Seelie]

Just gonna chip in and say the difficulty of changing said Xyz monster. It was 1 Light and 1 Dark LV 4 to fit thematically. However using something like Kyuubi as a fix would actual break the concept of said card. Due to it needing both materials Detaching one would negate it's own Eff.

[Ammokkx]

Just gonna chip in and say the difficulty of changing said Xyz monster. It was 1 Light and 1 Dark LV 4 to fit thematically. However using something like Kyuubi as a fix would actual break the concept of said card. Due to it needing both materials Detaching one would negate it's own Eff.

@1Charak2

I can tweak it. Don't worry. I just don't feel the need to right now.

(if this card is summoned using X materials, gain X effect)