[OOC] Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay Mk.II

[Fabulous Knight]

@KhoKho be a Rtron Cyclone God?

[Cyclone]

@Kho

I figured you'd rejoin as a player when summer came and you had more time. Is that not so?

If it's not so, then there will be no Thulemiz and therefore no need for any Great Lich Lord nonsense ;p

I think necromancy makes the most sense if it worked by using Mammon's occult magic. Perhaps it could be done by summoning a demon to possess a corpse, or preventing the victim's soul from leaving its body even in death.

[Lugubrious]

Slough can't create new souls. What's all this nonsense about splitting souls into spirits? That's so confusing. How about I lay a knowledge smackdown on you.

A soul is the incorporeal and immortal essence of a living being. The characteristics of a soul were outlined in detail and given names by the Egyptian pagan beliefs. They include the Personality of the being (what makes it unique), the Heart of the being (strong emotion associated with it in life), the Shadow of the being (its impact on the world; comparable to memories), the Name of the being (representative of its power and status), and the Vital Spark (what makes the soul alive). New souls can only come into existence in sentient beings, but souls can be forced into non-sentient beings to 'empower' them.

Slough's reincarnation takes all five of these soul elements and puts them in a new form. The Vital Spark is preserved completely, but the other four are dulled by the process to the point of a lack of self-awareness and maybe a lack of sentience depending on the damage, though still essentially the same being.

I imagine that necromancy, flawed and abominable sorcery that it is, would take only the Heart, the Shadow, and the Name, sacrificing the Personality and the Vital Spark as part of the wasteful process. Ultimately, this process destroys the soul when the undead body is destroyed, disintegrating rather than rejoining the Primordial Pool. The Heart provides an approximation of the Personality, but far more emotional and extreme, as befits one who 'came back wrong'.

The Pool, now, should be a well of souls in their entirety. Dead beings' souls automatically relocate to the Pool upon their death, unless some curse gets in the way, and the souls remain in the Pool until someone does something with them.

I'm feeling the Undertale with all this talk about souls

@Frettzo

I am an enormous fan of the soul-centered RPG where you can kill things or perform odd gestures in front of them, and there's a friendly skeleton.

Undertale? Pah. I'm talking

[The Omnipotent Sphere]

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...Wouldn't Zephyrion be more likely to be Sheograth out of all of us?

@Rtron

Sheogorath was created by cursing Jyggalag, the Daedric Prince of Order.

"Once, I ruled this Realm, a world of perfect Order."
―Jyggalag

[OldManWong]

I didn't get tagged :c
Shit's dank af though

[Fabulous Knight]

@Lugubrious Pretty sure the whole removing elements-of-soul thing is splitting souls á la Reathos' suggestion.

I was getting a pretty big Dark Souls vibe too.

[Antarctic Termite]

In which Jvan revs her engine and creates an ocean by squeezing blood from a stone.

I'll fill out a Creation form sometime.

WE CAN MAKE A BETTER WORLD THIS TIME WHERE THULEMIZ WON'T EXIST!

@Cyclone

I think I remember starting a goblin vs. wraith war with that guy. Good times.

[Kho]

@Kho

I figured you'd rejoin as a player when summer came and you had more time. Is that not so?

If it's not so, then there will be no Thulemiz and therefore no need for any Great Lich Lord nonsense ;p

I think necromancy makes the most sense if it worked by using Mammon's occult magic. Perhaps it could be done by summoning a demon to possess a corpse, or preventing the victim's soul from leaving its body even in death.

@Cyclone

You forget what happens to Necromancers who defile Death's purity...

[Legion02]

Slough can't create new souls. What's all this nonsense about splitting souls into spirits? That's so confusing. How about I lay a knowledge smackdown on you.

A soul is the incorporeal and immortal essence of a living being. The characteristics of a soul were outlined in detail and given names by the Egyptian pagan beliefs. They include the Personality of the being (what makes it unique), the Heart of the being (strong emotion associated with it in life), the Shadow of the being (its impact on the world; comparable to memories), the Name of the being (representative of its power and status), and the Vital Spark (what makes the soul alive). New souls can only come into existence in sentient beings, but souls can be forced into non-sentient beings to 'empower' them.

Slough's reincarnation takes all five of these soul elements and puts them in a new form. The Vital Spark is preserved completely, but the other four are dulled by the process to the point of a lack of self-awareness and maybe a lack of sentience depending on the damage, though still essentially the same being.

I imagine that necromancy, flawed and abominable sorcery that it is, would take only the Heart, the Shadow, and the Name, sacrificing the Personality and the Vital Spark as part of the wasteful process. Ultimately, this process destroys the soul when the undead body is destroyed, disintegrating rather than rejoining the Primordial Pool. The Heart provides an approximation of the Personality, but far more emotional and extreme, as befits one who 'came back wrong'.

The Pool, now, should be a well of souls in their entirety. Dead beings' souls automatically relocate to the Pool upon their death, unless some curse gets in the way, and the souls remain in the Pool until someone does something with them.

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I am an enormous fan of the soul-centered RPG where you can kill things or perform odd gestures in front of them, and there's a friendly skeleton.

Undertale? Pah. I'm talking

@Lugubrious

@Lugubrious Pretty sure the whole removing elements-of-soul thing is splitting souls á la Reathos' suggestion.

I was getting a pretty big Dark Souls vibe too.

@Fabulous Knight

And I'm LOVING it! Yeah, I'm 100% behind this idea.

[Cyclone]

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You forget what happens to Necromancers who defile Death's purity...

@Kho

Yeah, Big Red pops up out of nowhere in a cheap "plot twist" and Hell itself swallows up the universe.

[Kho]

In which Jvan revs her engine and creates an ocean by squeezing blood from a stone.

I'll fill out a Creation form sometime.

<Snipped quote by Cyclone>

I think I remember starting a goblin vs. wraith war with that guy. Good times.

@Antarctic Termite

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, that was truly epic. The fact that we can't access it gives it the air of legend - a long ago war between Thulemiz and Cavern things, where comets rained down and gods fought.

[Lugubrious]

If people like that idea, let's keep what I wrote somewhere where it can be accessed.

Perhaps someone like Raathos can spend a might to create the Primordial Pool, thus kicking off the existence of souls in this iteration of the universe, and what I wrote could go under his section as one of his creations.

[Legion02]

@Kho ...You guys were never intended on making anything really self-substaining and functional back in the previous installments were you?

[Kho]

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Yeah, Big Red pops up out of nowhere in a cheap "plot twist" and Hell itself swallows up the universe.

@Cyclone

Pah, you and your eternal quest for power and complaints about the logical consequences xP
It's almost as though Ialu never got cursed by Fergus and never nearly got his ass handed to him by Invictus himself...

[Kho]

I didn't get tagged :c
Shit's dank af though

@OldManWong

What ARE you talking about. Of course I tagged you >.>

[Kho]

@Kho ...You guys were never intended on making anything really self-substaining and functional back in the previous installments were you?

@Legion02

Pah, those were the days of myth and legend - who cared about the fact that humans were basically living on a planet that had neither sea nor water nor atmosphere nor food nor anything that can support life?

[Cyclone]

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Pah, you and your eternal quest for power and complaints about the logical consequences xP
It's almost as though Ialu never got cursed by Fergus and never nearly got his ass handed to him by Invictus himself...

@Kho

Hey, I was in character with Ialu. He was supposed to have greed, pride, and every other sin in the book! Consequences be damned; it's not his fault that he had to insult Astarte to her face!

Somehow Sauranath appreciated him for who he was and he became best friends with the dragon god. Still not sure how that happened...

Anyways, did you go look at the Secret of Daphne yet? Edia is one of the main inspirations I'm going to have for Y'Qar whenever I finally get around to making him. I imagine he'll be either my third or fourth hero.

[Fabulous Knight]

@Kho
I think necromancy makes the most sense if it worked by using Mammon's occult magic. Perhaps it could be done by summoning a demon to possess a corpse, or preventing the victim's soul from leaving its body even in death.

@Cyclone

That's a...cool idea. A weak demon made much stronger by a premade physical body. It'd certainly work with the whole theme of the occult. The interactions between souls and demons would be very interesting. I could imagine monsters formed out of half-demon half-mortals, where part of their soul has been returned -- but the rest is supplanted by demons. Perhaps they would hunger for more souls to fill themselves up with. But that would depend on whether Slough/Legion/Fretzzo were down with allowing that kind of stuff to happen.

[Kho]

In which Jvan revs her engine and creates an ocean by squeezing blood from a stone.

I'll fill out a Creation form sometime.

<Snipped quote by Cyclone>

I think I remember starting a goblin vs. wraith war with that guy. Good times.

@Antarctic Termite

This is what the sea looks like...

[Legion02]

<Snipped quote by Cyclone>

That's a...cool idea. A weak demon made much stronger by a premade physical body. It'd certainly work with the whole theme of the occult. The interactions between souls and demons would be very interesting. I could imagine monsters formed out of half-demon half-mortals, where part of their soul has been returned -- but the rest is supplanted by demons. Perhaps they would hunger for more souls to fill themselves up with. But that would depend on whether Slough/Legion/Fretzzo were down with allowing that kind of stuff to happen.

@Fabulous Knight

Man, Reathos will have a field day gathering up half-souls and demon possessed souls. I can imagine him yelling already:"Why can't you leave my precious cycle alone!"