[OOC] Black Mountain Tournament: Sigurd vs Gigue

[Vordak]

@MelonHead Posted.

EDIT: as it is usual for me, i'm off to sleep soon.

[MelonHead]

Wouldn't Sigurd be pulled onto his right side rather than his front if your character twisted in that fashion? Also did Sigurd's blade slip down Gigue's front? Once those things are cleared up I guess I can try and get out of this shit situation.

[Vordak]

With the hand that's on his belt, Gigue can slightly control how Sigurd falls, so while the throw would indeed apply a rightwards diagonal force, Gigue can correct it enough to have Sigurd land face downwards.

As for the blade, i mentioned that in the post:

[quote=Vordak]the sword slipping, its tip glancing off one of his ribs and screeching against the shoulderblade[/q46te}

So, that would be sliding down the back, not the front.

[MelonHead]

Guess I got confused by the mention of ribs and shoulder blade, the chronology seemed a bit off.

I'm not entirely sure how Gigue would be able to correct the diagnol force without a hand behind Sigurd's back, like I said. The amount of strength required to direct Sigurd straight down using the leverage on his belt would be insane because Gigue would also have to counter his own body weight pulling him rightward. It would literally require him to be able to throw Sigurd to the ground with what amounts to a curtain opening motion, which are not strong muscles on the human body, though I'm sure Gigue is better at the peck machine than I am it's still a tall order considering Sigurd's weight and position. Also I'm not convinced the belt would even sustain that much force, I'd assume it would give out under that sort of power.

@Drifting Pollen can you take a look at this from a neutral perspective, I'm not well versed in grappling so I can't tell if what I'm saying makes sense, but it seems a little unnatural for Sigurd to fall face down while Gigue is holding onto him in that fashion.

Also, though it's probably not a significant factor, you do have to consider both Gigue's arms are at least somewhat weakened by injuries by this point, directing Sigurd's fall from this position -seems- difficult to me.

[Vordak]

I don't envision the corrections required to be as drastic. If Gigue is pulling Sigurd to his own right, that means Sigurd is falling to his left, which happens to be the direction he is facing in, due to the right foot leading. Gigue is attempting to do a full 180 degree spin, for which reason he twists around on the balls of his feet in addition to already moving his upper body clockwise, and this means the rightwards force at the start would be offset by his knee subsequently being pulled leftwards. I maybe should've made it clearer, but Gigue isn't throwing Sigurd to the side - rather, behind himself.

[MelonHead]

Wait nevermind I understand the attack now, though considering where Sigurd's sword strike was aimed I do think the point would have caused more damage, I'm not going to refute what damage you chose to take, so I guess I'll just work on my next post.

[MelonHead]

Well that's the best I could come up with, Sigurd's sword strike was always going to be a last effort, it should have worked in theory but Gigue is just too fast I guess.

[Vordak]

He's just as fast as your ordinary martial artist - which i think was what i sticked to throughout our fight.

[MelonHead]

He's just as fast as your ordinary martial artist - which i think was what i sticked to throughout our fight.

@Vordak

eh, I dunno, not many martial artists could react to the blade actually piercing their armour and move so significantly. Remember that Sigurd aimed for the base of Gigue's neck, and the blade ended up basically harmlessly sliding down his back, that's quite a significant change in a very short period of time.

I say harmlessly because it doesn't seem like Gigue was perturbed all that much by the blade stabbing him, it certainly didn't impact his ability to lift Sigurd up and throw him.

[Vordak]

@MelonHead

I could've expanded on the damage, but as for the throw, the majority of Sigurd's weight was carried by the right arm, so Gigue could do without using the the damaged muscle on his left side, instead, only flexing the left arm inwards with the pectorals and curling his bicep for any additional lift and tow force.

[MelonHead]

@MelonHead

I could've expanded on the damage, but as for the throw, the majority of Sigurd's weight was carried by the right arm, so Gigue could do without using the the damaged muscle on his left side, instead, only flexing the left arm inwards with the pectorals and curling his bicep for any additional lift and tow force.

@Vordak

The right arm isn't exactly unscathed though, it did take a throwing axe to the forearm only ten or fifteen seconds ago. Anyway, I reflected what I perceived to be the weakness in the throw by not having Sigurd become debilitated upon landing, which seemed like a fair compromise, so we can continue for as long as Sigurd can wrestle against an opponent three times his strength, which probably won't be long. Gigue is definitely the toughest character in this tournament.

[Vordak]

I assume Sigurd has let go of his sword at this point?

[MelonHead]

I assume Sigurd has let go of his sword at this point?

@Vordak

No actually, it's under his body somewhat still held in the icepick, he has his knuckles on the floor rather than his palm.

[Vordak]

je ne pas comprendre

is it unstuck from Gigue's body then? because as i see i, those two combined would result in Sigurd contorting his body into one heck of a wierd position.

EDIT: gtg sleep right now

[MelonHead]

je ne pas comprendre

is it unstuck from Gigue's body then? because as i see i, those two combined would result in Sigurd contorting his body into one heck of a wierd position.

@Vordak

Wait, the sword is stuck in Gigue's body? I thought it glanced off? Well, even if it were stuck in his body Sigurd was yanked off his feet too fast to think about leaving it there, so it was probably torn out.

[Vordak]

It's stuck between the shoulderblade and the flesh covering it, as well as all the silk and leather armor on top.

Or i could roll with it being unstuck. Fine by me as well.

[MelonHead]

It's stuck between the shoulderblade and the flesh covering it, as well as all the silk and leather armor on top.

Or i could roll with it being unstuck. Fine by me as well.

@Vordak

I'm just going to roll with it coming unstuck, Sigurd thrust down with a lot of force so it would either of killed Gigue or glanced off bone, there isn't really any half measures where it's stuck in his body but only caused a flesh wound.

[MelonHead]

@Vordak What you got for me? My advice, start flailing your fists around wildly, punch with both at the same time, windmill of bones.

[Vordak]

I decided that having a tear wound and cracked rib on the same side of his body would somewhat limit his left arm's movements, so i'm going for something a bit more tricky here.

[MelonHead]

What if Gigue jumps high into the air over the elbow strike and then dives back down with a knee drop of fire and nuclear power?