[OOC] The Chronicles of Dosei: Sands of Blood, A Dungeons and Dragons Roleplay. (Full)

[EWillden]

There,... decided to do the advancing post. Have fun fellas.

[Ryonara]

That's a shame. But I'll get a post up when I get home.

[EWillden]

@Ryonara Coolio... I was going to message those that previous said they were interested but.. I decided not to. This way you can put in your secondary character. I plan to enter my other character in soon. I am in the process of just leaving me with one or two characters. Lol as you can see from my ic post.

[Bishop]

@EWillden@Lucius Cypher Hhhh, I was gonna make my character lightning jump to your character, into the hole and use feather spell to save em and a lightning bolt to kill the creature. But there are so many feats and rules that get me confused and wondering. How many feats does my character have? Are metamagic feats unlimited? Are fighter/monk feats restricted to my character although I may have the required points in dexterity or strength for example? Since I'm a battle sorcerer and I have to forsake my familiar to I get something else in return? Do I automatically get feats when I level up? And are these feats counted into the overall feat number I may have?

[Lucius Cypher]

@EWillden@Lucius Cypher Hhhh, I was gonna make my character lightning jump to your character, into the hole and use feather spell to save em and a lightning bolt to kill the creature. But there are so many feats and rules that get me confused and wondering. How many feats does my character have? Are metamagic feats unlimited? Are fighter/monk feats restricted to my character although I may have the required points in dexterity or strength for example? Since I'm a battle sorcerer and I have to forsake my familiar to I get something else in return? Do I automatically get feats when I level up? And are these feats counted into the overall feat number I may have?

@Bishop

At our assumed levels (10 or so) you have 5 feats because you're a sorcerer. Two at level 1 (level 1 feat + human bonus feat), and one at 3 5, 7, and 9th level.

Metamagic is not unlimited and takes up a feat slot. In the context of our rp, it means that using meta magic is more taxing to your mana then if you used a regular spell. Even as a battle sorcerer you cannot select feats that require monk/fighter levels.

You should still have a familiar. Being a battle sorcerer is just your specialty, but not unique enough that it's any different from a regular sorcerer aside from their choice of spells. Here's the link if you want more information about familiars.

Sorcerers don't get addition feats leveling up. Just more spells.

as for what you want to do, this is a boss fight. Things won't go as smoothly as the darkmantle fight. For starters unless your character is right next to Jarvis when he fell, you won't be fast enough to catch up to him when he falls. Additionally gargoyle are tough, both physically and magically. This isn't time to go off and be a badass. Were out numbered and if you jump down there, you'll be splitting the party. Not to mention the amount if Attacks of Opritunuty you'd be taking if you did just jump down there. I understand you want to save Jarvis, but if you do so you're gunna die.

one gargoyle is bad news enough. We're fighting eight now. Even for our relatively high level, this isn't going to be as simple as "I cut off his head" or "I shoot a belt of lightning" at it.

[Ryonara]

@EWillden I don't think Parum will just show up in the middle of a temple, but I'll try to incorporate her later. Sorry for the lack of post too. One thing before I do post though, since I'm going to have Catarina fight, are the Gargoyles evil? If they are then Catarina's sword is going to do more harm to them because it's holy.

[EWillden]

@Ryonara Yup, choatic evil to be exact. So yeah her holy weapon will do some damage and with Malkai's bull strength buff it will stack onto that. You should be able to kill your targets pretty good.

[EWillden]

@Lucius Cypher@Bishop Yeah... no offense Bishop but I don't think you understand the situation here. Vivian was able to explode one with a fireball and that will be the most she can do right now... If you tried to do that there would be many attacks of oppritunity coming your way. This may not be the table top but one thing is for certain. None of the Gargoyles are going to just stand there and jump into the hole after Jarvis. No need to be a hero... You know the definition of a hero? Someone who gets everyone else killed. Right now Malkai and Catarina might seem like they can handle themselves but they are still outnumbered.

[Lucius Cypher]

Speaking of Malkai, what size is the room? He may begin to reveal his true form, and it's kinda big.

[EWillden]

It is pretty good. As big of a ante chamber should be. If he wants to he can.

Speaking of Malkai, what size is the room? He may begin to reveal his true form, and it's kinda big.

@Lucius Cypher

Suddenly I imagine him going full lycan form and just tearing the things apart with the axe... possible even breaking the greatsword he got...lol

[EWillden]

@Bishop By the way,... waiting on a post from you now.

[Lucius Cypher]

Suddenly I imagine him going full lycan form and just tearing the things apart with the axe... possible even breaking the greatsword he got...lol

@EWillden

Heh, I wish. But no, his transformation is going to be much more mundane. He's just going going to turn into an elephant and start trampling the enemy.

[Lucius Cypher]

@Bishop, this is a boss fight. It's not like with the orcs or Darkmantle where you can control the actions of your enemies. In fact you shouldn't control those guys either. Your essentially god modding by controlling characters (in this instance the gargoyles) you aren't suppose to control.

[Bishop]

@Lucius Cypher Come on, so you can kill them in one post but you can't control their actions? What's the point since they end dead anyway? I just watched how the others handled them and I just added a bit more trying to make you imagine how I imagined the fight going. Yeah and if the description of what happened sucks, I apologize for the limited vocabulary and sentence structure.

[Lucius Cypher]

@Bishop who said they're dead? Malkai hasn't attacked yet and who knows if Catarina hits. Vivian threw a fireball and downed one, but we don't know if it's dead or just got knocked down by force of the fire ball. Might be in for a surprise soon.

And that's just the thing Bishop. They might not be dead, and we might not win. We're outnumbered against enemies who are resistant against magic and we only have one martial class. And despite what you may think, a battle sorcerer is not so hot in a melee. Not only that but the way you use spells is completely wrong with the source materials. Spells need to be casted then used, you can't use fire them off willy nilly with each punch. Casting requires concentration, which would give the enemy ample time to interrupt your spell casting by attacking you.

Plus there's the fact you took them out so easily that it makes me wonder if anything can actually be a threat to you. You shattered one with a roundhouse kick strong enough to send them flying and you’re literally punching through stone. Combined with their magic resistance even if he infused his limbs with magic they wouldn’t help, so that’s telling me that somehow your character has the raw strength to knock around large stone creatures who are bigger and heavier than he is, and Xavio is just a sorcerer. He didn’t even use any spells like bull strength, which he doesn’t have anyways.

This may be a fantasy and we may be using characters that are a high level, but that doesn’t mean this is a power fantasy where we can just steam roll through everything. We might have a plan and our strengths but things can quickly go shitters if we act cocky. That Dark Mantle fight could have killed us all if we didn’t have someone who could Dispel Magic on their darkness. Or if they didn’t just cast darkness again and put us right back to square one. This gargoyle fight isn't going to be any easie.

[Bishop]

@Lucius Cypher I didnt kick that gargoyle into the air, I deviated* it's charging attack enough to attack the other one and smash him into the wall. The fight with the last one was good no? And "Catarina put the full momentum of her charge, combined with with surge of strength, and chopped Domina down with all her power at the gargoyle from head to toe."- How can you slash something "from head to toe" and make it seem like you are throwing or performing an attack whose conclusion you do not yet know? She clearly states that she slashed the thing in half. And read carefully as it says that Vivian took one down with 1* fireball, be it knocked out or dead it's one less enemy, so I believe that all my moves and attacks that I performed on the second gargoyle justify on the fact that I killed him. But I can change the first one's fate as just being knocked into the ground with a lot of cracks.

[Lucius Cypher]

@Bishop Wording, Bishop, not to mention that they didn't mention the after effects. The way Catarina is written, she didn't already cut the gargoyel, she's about to. Ryo just made a really fluffy way of saying "Catarina slashed at the gargoyle". To elaborate, if the blow lands then yes, the gargoyle will be cut in half. The important factor is of course, if. Since didn't Ryo didn't also add something like "and then the gargoyle was split in half" that would leave enough to the imagination for EWillden to decide whether or not Catarina would succeed or fail.

Basically, what you can do is say something like "I attack the gargoyle" and EWilden be the one who decides if you hit or miss. Not "I attack the gargoyle and it dies/gets knocked into the next room." The success of your actions aren't up to you, least of all in a boss fight.

Vivian gets some leeway because she is the GM, and even then you don't know if the fireball killed the gargoyle or not. Again wording: EWilden never said the gargoyle died. To assume it did makes an ass out of you and me. More so since we've already said more than once that these things were resistant to magic. Do you really think that we'd keep saying that, only for a gargoyle to die from one fireball?

And that still doesn't fix other inconsistencies. Even if you changed the a of their charge, you still have other sections where youre punching through their bodies like they were made of clay. And where would Xavier had learned a technique like that? Last I checked he was trained with unarmed strikes, not reposition. If you wanted to be a Kung fu wizard you should have rolled a monk sorcerer instead of a pure sorcerer.

[Belwicket]

I'll work on a CS later.

[Bishop]

@Lucius Cypher hhhh, yeah...I'll see what I can change. Just got confused on their wordings and assumed everyone killed their gargoyle. And I put some stars at the parts which await approval from @EWillden if they hit or not. Sorry for the roundhouse kick as it would completely force me to rewrite the whole battle scene and I would probably resort in a short 2-3 sentence reply(but if that's what you wish OK). The gargoyle that got knocked out* could arise and attack my character again any time and sorry again for deciding that he gets knocked out. I also assumed by logic that my character could perform the things that I dictated as I didn't delve much in the D&D fighting system. And the fact that there were multiple enemies made me forget that we were in a boss fight which I always presumed to be one giant enemy and at most a group of other minions fighting beside him. And I didn't know that a monk sorcerer actually existed as I presumed to have hit jackpot when I found the "Battle Sorcerer" class and didn't look any further.

[Lucius Cypher]

Remember that we aren't using any homebrewed stuff. When you said "battle sorcerer" I just thought you meant you wanted to be a combat oriented sorcerer, not an entirely different class entirely. As for what you can post, a lot of stuff happened prior to the fight. Comment on Alyssa disappearing, an internal monologe, notice how stupid Jarvis is.