[OOC] Fate/Stagnant Apotheosis

[Lonewolf685]

No, don't reinforce a loli. Reinforce a snake into a sword! Then it can bend around attacks AND poison people. Snakesword ftw!

[Turboshitter]

@Turboshitter
You can't just snap your fingers and make a familiar. It'll take a few hours.

Are you trying to have the familiar make other familiars? Because your familiars can't use magecraft, so that's not going to work.

@Unoedipal

No, just corral them all into one place. And I'll fix the time estimates later.

Brb workin'

[Scrapula]

Just a heads up, I probably won't be on for most of tomorrow and possibly most of tonight. Traveling from state to state is a bit of a hassle when Spring Break's in full swing.

[Unoedipal]

Can I reinforce the loli into a sword?

@ADamnFiddle

You'd need like, an active triple-modifier and a Game Boy Advance to accomplish that.

You know the one.

[Unoedipal]

But yeah, @ADamnFiddle and @Turboshitter, do you have notable opposition to Seyrun getting to Copenhagen before you two? If so you guys can argue it out and whatnot, if not I'll just post with Neko.

[ADamnFiddle]

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You'd need like, an active triple-modifier and a Game Boy Advance to accomplish that.

You know the one.

@Unoedipal

Boogie-oogie-oogie til you just can't boogie no more [literally]

[ADamnFiddle]

@Unoedipal

Umm, personally I think that the Copenhagen should not be within a notable distance when taken into consideration calling for a dispatch taxi and morning traffic and the like, in terms of time spent taken to get there from walking to taxi-ing but at the same time I don't truly believe the ends will matter too much as to if their Magus had moments to prepare. @Turboshitter, what do you think?

[KoL]

@Unoedipal

Like I said, I'm fine with whatever decision. If she's late, that's just one more exist for Seyrun to berate modern technology. Probably she'll give up on any intrusive plans for the day, but at least set up a contingency plan for the bar.

After that, my next stop will be the Tohsaka household. The other magi might not value them, but Seyrun will take the ley lines into consideration. She'll probably avoid the temple, because of the barrier, though. That place smells of death trap.

[Black Alice]

Little known strategy: If you reveal your true name right off the bat, the enemies will become confused and not be able to attack you.

You should all try it.

[Unoedipal]

probably of the 'Rider' persuasion.

@Hantu Kongkek

Please explain the deductive reasoning that led Archer to this conclusion.

[Hantu Kongkek]

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Please explain the deductive reasoning that led Archer to this conclusion.

@Unoedipal

Would've been that or a Saber. After all, he is a big knight guy.

[Unoedipal]

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Would've been that or a Saber. After all, he is a big knight guy.

@Hantu Kongkek

A big knight guy could also use a spear. Or a craziness that's deactivated. Or magecraft. Or a sword. Basically he could theoretically be anyone besides Assassin. A sword actually makes a lot of sense, since he has a sword.

I also don't get why "big knight guy" makes you think "one of those classes that's not called a Knight Class".

Basically there's zero reason to assume he's Rider and you're only doing that because you know he's Rider OOC.

Don't metagame. It's bad.

[ADamnFiddle]

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A big knight guy could also use a spear. Or a craziness that's deactivated. Or magecraft. Or a sword. Basically he could theoretically be anyone besides Assassin. A sword actually makes a lot of sense, since he has a sword.

I also don't get why "big knight guy" makes you think "one of those classes that's not called a Knight Class".

Basically there's zero reason to assume he's Rider and you're only doing that because you know he's Rider OOC.

Don't metagame. It's bad.

@Unoedipal

Yeah this is pretty much my take on this. Discernment of identity might hold a small amount of benefit, but only if the necessary steps and prerequisites are accomplished prior to identifying the other. A crazy person swinging rock-sword at you while snarling might be Berserker, but random knight guy 401243 might be a bit harder to properly identify class. Especially if he doesn't currently have any mounts active.

[KoL]

Little known strategy: If you reveal your true name right off the bat, the enemies will become confused and not be able to attack you.

You should all try it.

@Black Alice

You've read Saber' mind there, dear friend. Secrecy is overrated, after all. Otherwise, why would 3 out of the 7 Servants in the 4th HGW have their identities blown (one of the actually crying it to the Heavens and Hell to hear) in the first battle of the war?

[ADamnFiddle]

@KoL

"It was just a prank, bro." -Iskander, 4th Grail War.

[Hantu Kongkek]

Well; his size means he's likely neither assassin nor caster, Jackson's already the Archer so he can't be that, a Saber would expected to be carrying a way fancier sword, and he's not a girl which most Sabers seem to be. He's wearing armor Jackson would likely recognize as something more attuned to old-fashioned cavalry as opposed to direct melee, ruling out berserker.

Plus a class isn't as secret as the name; the class would be obvious the moment they do battle.

[Lonewolf685]

Plus a class isn't as secret as the name; the class would be obvious the moment they do battle.

@Hantu Kongkek

Because Sasaki couldn't pass of as Saber. EMIYA was clearly an Archer when he pulled out twin swords. Medusa is obviously not an Assassin.

[ADamnFiddle]

Plus a class isn't as secret as the name; the class would be obvious the moment they do battle.

@Hantu Kongkek

yeah, but at the same time it should not matter if you know their identity or not. However, at the same time you shouldn't be able to discern these traits at simple observation. You could just ask if you really wanted to though. It just seems a bit meta game-y to me tbh.

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Because Sasaki couldn't pass of as Saber. EMIYA was clearly an Archer when he pulled out twin swords. Medusa is obviously not an Assassin.

@Lonewolf685

This is my take on it mostly.

[Scrapula]

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Because Sasaki couldn't pass of as Saber. EMIYA was clearly an Archer when he pulled out twin swords. Medusa is obviously not an Assassin.

@Lonewolf685

I'd say those are pretty important outliers. For the most part, Servant classes (at least ones not meant to be vague for plot reasons) are the Class they most resemble. It's a leap in logic that carries plenty of risk, but it's still pretty safe when you're going for an obvious solution. Like, say, assuming that the chivalrous knight in cavalry armor is a chivalrous and knightly Rider.

[ADamnFiddle]

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I'd say those are pretty important outliers. For the most part, Servant classes (at least ones not meant to be vague for plot reasons) are the Class they most resemble. It's a leap in logic that carries plenty of risk, but it's still pretty safe when you're going for an obvious solution. Like, say, assuming that the chivalrous knight in cavalry armor is a chivalrous and knightly Rider.

@Scrapula

I mean again, personally I don't really care. I just feel that to be able to discern those sorts of traits from simple glance seems a bit odd is all~. Tbh the end result should not matter all the same.