[OOC] Fate/Stagnant Apotheosis

[Scrapula]

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I mean again, personally I don't really care. I just feel that to be able to discern those sorts of traits from simple glance seems a bit odd is all~. Tbh the end result should not matter all the same.

@ADamnFiddle

It's pretty difficult not to recognize the big-ass suit of knightly armor a man's wearing. If you've got the foreknowledge of what Riders are (which Jackson presumably has, being a Heroic Spirit), recognizing one that fits into the stereotype would be pretty easy.

Beyond all this arguing nonsense, we haven't asked @Moonman what he thinks about this. He's the one who most stands to suffer from this, so we should probably have his opinion before continuing.

[Turboshitter]

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It's pretty difficult not to recognize the big-ass suit of knightly armor a man's wearing. If you've got the foreknowledge of what Riders are (which Jackson presumably has, being a Heroic Spirit), recognizing one that fits into the stereotype would be pretty easy.

@Scrapula

#notallknights

#allarmorisequal

[Lonewolf685]

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#notallknights

#allarmorisequal

@Turboshitter

No. Sorry, I can no longer work with you. This relationship is over! Tamamo is going Seryun's way cause she can't abide you! *Runs off screaming bloody murder*

#IHateHashtags

[KoL]

I'll just say that armor or not armor, size or not size, means nothing for Servants. For example, Mordred's armor is way bulkier than Baldwin's and she's a Saber, on the other hand, Diarmuid as Saber would still dress in light gear as seen on F/Z flashbacks where he fights with his swords. Lancers vary even more wildly (unless their are Irish, then obviously they gotta dress skintight suits of egregious appearance if you're not a woman), even Vlad has two impossibly distinct canon appearances and obviously lest not forget the walking gold statue that's Gilgamesh and still he's Archer.

Even much better warriors like Cu Chulainn and Diarmuid had difficulty in pointing their foes classes during combat. It's easy to narrow down to a few possibilities, but saying it's this or that outright is a bit off putting. Now, I'm not trying to sound like nagging or bullying, this is just my opinion on the matter. Whatever happens is good on my end, specially since my characters are not directly involved.

[KoL]

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No. Sorry, I can no longer work with you. This relationship is over! Tamamo is going Seryun's way cause she can't abide you! *Runs off screaming bloody murder*

#IHateHashtags

@Lonewolf685

Ohh!? She's quite welcome at anytime. It's not like I wouldn't enjoy some yuri being randomly tossed into this, 'cause obviously all girls on Typemoon aren't lesbians in the closet.

But then again, what am I rambling about... just forget that I said anything.

[Turboshitter]

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No. Sorry, I can no longer work with you. This relationship is over! Tamamo is going Seryun's way cause she can't abide you! *Runs off screaming bloody murder*

#IHateHashtags

@Lonewolf685

lol sorry wolf

[Lonewolf685]

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Ohh!? She's quite welcome at anytime. It's not like I wouldn't enjoy some yuri being randomly tossed into this, 'cause obviously all girls on Typemoon aren't lesbians in the closet.

But then again, what am I rambling about... just forget that I said anything.

@KoL

Yup. Rin was the straightest girl you would ever meet. Good, god fearing Christian.

[Unoedipal]

Well; his size means he's likely neither assassin nor caster, Jackson's already the Archer so he can't be that, a Saber would expected to be carrying a way fancier sword, and he's not a girl which most Sabers seem to be. He's wearing armor Jackson would likely recognize as something more attuned to old-fashioned cavalry as opposed to direct melee, ruling out berserker.

Plus a class isn't as secret as the name; the class would be obvious the moment they do battle.

@Hantu Kongkek

Galantine and the swords of half the Grand Order Sabers have some words to say. Arthur and Mordred were only secretly girls, and besides them it's really just Nero/Attila. I don't get the logic behind "he's a guy and his sword isn't glowing like all unactivated Noble Phantasms do, he can't be Saber".

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I mean again, personally I don't really care. I just feel that to be able to discern those sorts of traits from simple glance seems a bit odd is all~. Tbh the end result should not matter all the same.

@ADamnFiddle

This is pretty much it, honestly. The issue is that I don't plan on setting a precedent of people doing asspulls at the drop of a hat which is largely fueled by OOC knowledge. What you know OOC shouldn't mean that your character figures things out super-easily because you know them. If I allowed that, then it's a slippery slope that I have no intention of walking down.

It's not a balancing thing, since it's hardly like knowing he's Rider helps you, but the issue is moreso that this post wouldn't have been made if I had made Servant CSs secret.

If you legitimately want to argue contrary to that, and say that without knowing anything about him save his appearance, you would have made that post exactly the same, then I really don't know what to say.

[KoL]

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Yup. Rin was the straightest girl you would ever meet. Good, god fearing Christian.

@Lonewolf685

Who in their sane mind wouldn't fear the Almighty when His representative on Earth is fuckin' Kotomine Kirei? I mean, would you commit a sacrilege in that man's presence?

[Unoedipal]

Kotomine Kirei

@KoL

Heretics aren't allowed.

[Turboshitter]

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Ohh!? She's quite welcome at anytime. It's not like I wouldn't enjoy some yuri being randomly tossed into this, 'cause obviously all girls on Typemoon aren't lesbians in the closet.

But then again, what am I rambling about... just forget that I said anything.

@KoL

HISSSSSSS! Get out of here, homewrecker >:(

[Moonman]

If I may offer my thoughts on the matter, Baldwin is wearing spurs.
So that would at least imply some relation to horsemanship.

[ADamnFiddle]

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Ohh!? She's quite welcome at anytime. It's not like I wouldn't enjoy some yuri being randomly tossed into this, 'cause obviously all girls on Typemoon aren't lesbians in the closet.

But then again, what am I rambling about... just forget that I said anything.

@KoL

Something about everyone being gay, just varying in degrees or something.

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Who in their sane mind wouldn't fear the Almighty when His representative on Earth is fuckin' Kotomine Kirei? I mean, would you commit a sacrilege in that man's presence?

@KoL

Yes.

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Heretics aren't allowed.

@Unoedipal

E X T E R M I N A T U S

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This is pretty much it, honestly. The issue is that I don't plan on setting a precedent of people doing asspulls at the drop of a hat which is largely fueled by OOC knowledge. What you know OOC shouldn't mean that your character figures things out super-easily because you know them. If I allowed that, then it's a slippery slope that I have no intention of walking down.

It's not a balancing thing, since it's hardly like knowing he's Rider helps you, but the issue is moreso that this post wouldn't have been made if I had made Servant CSs secret.

If you legitimately want to argue contrary to that, and say that without knowing anything about him save his appearance, you would have made that post exactly the same, then I really don't know what to say.

@Unoedipal

Honestly I have the same issue as displayed here. You cant really discern someones status as a rider based on their armor alone. They could simply be a saber that could also be summoned as a rider or perhaps someone who could be summoned as a rider that has gone mad during their life. Or an assassin that tells people they are an assassin but are probably not very effective. OLr a guy who shot down all the heads of a beast at the same time. Or a guy riding his suncup. Man, you never know.

Something about not judging a book by their cover and all that glitters is not gold.

[KoL]

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Heretics aren't allowed.

@Unoedipal

Don't you dare berate my Kirei, he's the man that could make eating mapo tofu look both awesome and intimidating at the same time. And could outrun assassin while taking a loli back home (all of this without ruining that fabulous mullet). Kiritsugu is ano good hobo that thinks he's hero but Kirei is man worth of a thousand.

His daughter ain't half bad as well, though.

[KoL]

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HISSSSSSS! Get out of here, homewrecker >:(

@Turboshitter

>:)

[Unoedipal]

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Don't you dare berate my Kirei, he's the man that could make eating mapo tofu look both awesome and intimidating at the same time. And could outrun assassin while taking a loli back home (all of this without ruining that fabulous mullet). Kiritsugu is ano good hobo that thinks he's hero but Kirei is man worth of a thousand.

His daughter ain't half bad as well, though.

@KoL

I'm not saying he's bad. I'm just saying heretics aren't allowed.

Caren is <good>.

[KoL]

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I'm not saying he's bad. I'm just saying heretics aren't allowed.

Caren is <good>.

@Unoedipal

I get what you mean. I was just joking... half of it, at least, maybe. _{Don't take me seriously, 'cause I usually am not.}

Hmm.. I can see a clear bias here.

[Unoedipal]

Hmm.. I can see a clear bias here.

@KoL

Caren doesn't have Circuits. She's not a heretic.

[ADamnFiddle]

@Unoedipal

ur mum doesn't have circuits. #rekt

[Unoedipal]

@Unoedipal

ur mum doesn't have circuits. #rekt

@ADamnFiddle

outplayed question mark