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Yeah, I only really intend to POV one member of the house— her introspection, concerns, and defenses (against the Vulture King?). Shireen might even be privy to making Robert’s bastards as errant members of the house; similar to how House Blackfyre happened with the Targaryens. I’d definitely be communicative and collaborative, especially if we have some sort of discord to chat on during off hours.

Here is what I got so far:


@Gowi How often do you think you'd be able to post? At least once a week or are you thinking less?

@DrunkasaurusRex Great sheet, go ahead and put it in the CS tab, you're accepted.

It would really depend. I’m going through a lot of things right now in my home life and I’m actively engaged in a few RP’s right now— but I would try to post sequences weekly, yes, but given my past history I have fluctuated between once a week-to-once every two or three. I don’t want to disappoint anyone, of course, but I will extend that yourself and Dredigan have been somewhat convincing that I am working on a CS.
I will have to discuss with Didact if my posting frequency being obtuse is grounds for denial or not, however. Meanwhile, I have posts to write and other things to do.
I guess I’ve been converted. Blame @Dredigan.
However, a good case can be made that a resurrected Shireen would be a very compelling PC for the game for the reasons already stated by Dredigan. It would depend on the specific circumstances of her resurrection, if she came back soon or in adulthood, but either way it could potentially enrich her POV and the story greatly. Of course, the role of the Baratheon bastards would be adjusted depending on whether or not you wanted to have them as additional PCs as well.

These are all fair points, but I suppose the only important one is how convincing has Dredigan been? Considering I’m thinking in my head how a resurrected Shireen would be fascinating and what character dynamics she’d have. Initially I thought about the kind soft-spoken Shireen from the books growing up but now I’m considering a woman both terrified and indebted to the flames, distrusting of people and their intentions, and ultimately very dour and cynical. In some ways she might even mirror Stannis in her later years of life.

I will remind you that I am very... strapped for time, but I am fascinated and seem to be socializing well enough that this could be fun for me.

I also am thinking of making a map for the area. I've got someone who likes to make maps, but she wants a sketch and I'm not that good at that part... =,='

Inkarnate - A Free Open Source Map Making Program
I feel like George is going to build up to it and write it better than it was written and directed in the show, then.

But given this AU, how much rope do you really want to give?

I’m rather tired right now, so I’m not sure how to phrase this reply but I will try. I cannot give you an opinion on how you guys are handling things or how you should; the only thing I can do is give you frame of reference of other RPG-oriented ASOIAF collaborations which in their past have often given more room for the player to develop things so they can be invested even if they are questionable from a canon perspective. But there’s only been like two or three collaborations focused on Westeros in the future, so they might not be a great frame of reference.

I don’t know.

But like I asked in the previous post— how important is her death really when it comes to the plot and framework of this game? If your conclusion is the same as mine (probably not) with your addition GM wisdom and knowledge then how do you want to proceed? I’m only replying right now because you seem to be trying to convince me (and you seem swell) and Didact thus given you proper courtesy in that regard. I like ASOIAF, so I am still possibly intrigued.

seven hells, I might even be warming up to your idea
New Dark Fantasy prompt is up.

@Gowi Are you interested in that time period in general, or in that particular setting too (ie. modern-day England and Wales)?

I'll give it a look and let you know in PM when I've done all my GM responsibilities in Pariah and replied in my RPs.
No tension— I just have no fundamental interest with a resurrected Shireen.

I’m of the opinion that this is one of the things that the show got wrong and will likely be approached in the books very differently; even if George does ultimately think she need to perish for the narrative. The show created a scene that was out of character for Stannis Baratheon and it has never sat well with me (same with Dorne, Myrcella, and to a lesser extent Essos).

I’ve worked with Didact before (a superhero RP, iirc), if my memory serves so this is not me being unfriendly; I am just offering my counterpoints and disinterest. :F

But if I were to humor the idea that Shireen came back after her (blatantly out of character) father called for her death, then I feel her personality would be reflected in many ways and I’m not sure it would be the same tone and spirit as I initially perceived my concept. She’d be harsher, colder, and find the only faith she has is in the spirits because man has shown her it is not to be trusted at all. She’d return to The Stormlands bitter, cynical, and hollow. While this could be interesting by some degree, the GM has also already decided Edric Storm took charge of her rightful claim so there would still be issue. Unless adjusting that is possible. If so, I don’t understand why adjusting her whole death out of the plot couldn’t be done just to same. Thus it would bring the question of this— what bearing does it have on the setting or the GM characters at that end? Is it really important for her to die?

The only conclusion I can come to objectively is no, but I am not the authority of the RP nor do I presume I am so this is all simply my opinion from what I can deduce.
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