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"Cancel spells with a chant below two verses. Cannot defend against Magecraft on the level of High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals."
Name: Miyamoto Musashi

Class: Saber

Gender: Male

Appearance:

Wears a plain, dark colored kimono.

Alignment: Neutral

Personality: A man equal parts stern and zen, Musashi's number one goal in life is the status of Japan's greatest swordsman. As he has long since achieved that goal, however, he is no longer a hotblooded young man. Cool and calculating, he has a wit sharper than his sword and is not unwilling to manipulate the enemy. In combat, he's ferocious and clever, and his swords resemble the fangs of a tiger and the claws of a dragon.
His hobbies are painting and woodworking. He has an aversion to baths.

History: Musashi was a famous ronin from 17th century Japan, notorious for being an expert duelist, winning numerous fights throughout his life through a combination of wit and skill. Most famously, he fought and killed Sasaki Kojiro when he was about twenty-nine or thirty. Besides this, Musashi was known for his skills as an artist, philosopher, and writer. He was said to have a rough appearance and mannerisms, despite his skill.
For more information, go to your local library. Or here.

Weapon: Musashi personal weapon consists of a daisho, a matching set of samurai swords consisting of the longer katana and the shorter wakizashi. These utilize the iconic twin ring tsuba he's associated with.

Parameters:

Strength: C

Endurance: c

Agility: A

Mana: E

Luck: C

Class Skills:
Riding: E
Concerns the usage of mounts and vehicles. As Musashi was no cavalryman in life, this is more of a courtesy skill. He has a functional grasp of most vehicles and animals, enough to drive normally.

Magic Resistance: C-
Allows Musashi a basic defense against simpler spells. Due to his being summoned under a false grail, it's weaker than it would be were he a normal Saber.

Personal Skills:
Eye of the Mind (True): A
Despite his countless duels and battles, Musashi mastered many forms of art aside from swordfighting. His powers of observation and analysis have been honed through a lifetime of experience devoted to understanding the Way.

Noble Phantasm(s): n/a
"There are other schools that have a fondness for extra-long swords. From the point of view of my martial art, I see them as weak schools. This is because they do not appreciate the principle of cutting the enemy by any means. Their preference is for the extra-long sword and, relying on the virtue of its length, they think to defeat the enemy from a distance. It is difficult for these people to cut the enemy when at close quarters because of the length of the longsword. The blade path is large so the long sword is an encumbrance, and they are at a disadvantage compared to the man armed with a short companion sword."
-Miyamoto Musashi
@Sodium@IncredibleBee

Just saying that I'm not arguing with neither of you. I was just saying that people tend to exaggerate Musashi's skill with the sword when in truth he was a scoundrel more or less comparable to Han Solo. He was good, that's a fact, but in the end what won good battles was scumbag trickery.

It's hard to deny it when his book on combat strategy is literally just a collection of waits to cheat. Out may be efficient, but morally right... that's a whole other ball. game


Actually his book on combat strategy is a book on combat strategy, and though it covers primarily swordsmanship, it can be applied to many other Ways. It covers philosophy as much as technique, but also stresses you consider factors like time of day, position, environment, psychological condition, etc. If you pull up most other books on strategy, they'll actually say similar things. I have a copy right next to me if you'd like to hear passages; none of it concerns cheating.

In Kojiro's case he didn't even ambush, it was a head-on duel. Musashi came in via rowboat; Kojiro saw him coming, but Musashi was the better swordsman; he kept cool, whittled an oar, and beat Kojiro to death.
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But Musashi cheated instead of 1v1ing him properly.


Using a wooden sword is cheating?
@Unoedipal

Am I allowed to say that Musashi' AGI is outrageously high? Come on, he's as fast as Not!Kojiroh (if I'm not wrong) which is supposed to be rather hard to match.

Also, @IncredibleBee, you at imagining one thing wrong. The problem with sword fighting King Arthur is that Prana Burst, out means that things that touch Arthuria literally go poof. I mean, it required a godly swordsman that far surpassed her skill and was so fan good that he made the world give up and grant him a shared of the 2nd Magic and an abnormally week made sword that could cut through steel to even that handicap, this at least most mean something.

EDIT:

Damn swipe keyboard screwing my post. I hate it, but simply can't give up.


You're forgetting two things. First of all, Kojiro was a real life person, and Musashi killed him with an oar.

Secondly, let's say we go by Fate's weird rules. The fabricated Kojiro conformed to the legend of Kojiro. In other words, Musashi would be stronger. Or rather, Kojiro would be fabricated to be weaker than a servant Musashi.
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That covers pretty much anything one can hold sans complicated weapons that weren't present in his time period (railguns, probably guns in general, etc) - and even then, they can become bludgeons anyway.

Looking at Musashi's sheet, he has one big thing, and that's swords. All this ability does is allow him to improvise "swords" from "sword-like objects" and make them useful against Heroic Spirits. I think Bee's terminology is what's getting everything mucked up here, as it doesn't create a Noble Phantasm weapon, but something that can be used to fence against one using a Noble Phantasm weapon. In other words, it allows Musashi to swordfight with King Arthur.


This sums it up pretty well.
You know what I'd rather take the NP loss than another stat drop.

One Personal skill, no NPs.
I just became the underdog of underdogs.
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And Lancy can only use things he can conceptualize as weapons.


Yeah, but I'm saying Lancelot's ability is definitely higher ranked than what I'm using. Are you concerned that I'm going to abuse it somehow? Because I feel like it would be difficult to abuse outside of a breath of fresh air. Bokken instead of katana, for example. Like I said, it wouldn't be Musashi if he couldn't use bokken.
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