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Why does it not work as a personal skill? It's not like it's a legendary weapon or a blade beam.

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Yeah, but Musashi's is also much more situational. He can only use swords and sword-like items, like bokken and baseball bats.

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And Lancy can only use things he can conceptualize as weapons.

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Yeah, but I'm saying Lancelot's ability is definitely higher ranked than what I'm using. Are you concerned that I'm going to abuse it somehow? Because I feel like it would be difficult to abuse outside of a breath of fresh air. Bokken instead of katana, for example. Like I said, it wouldn't be Musashi if he couldn't use bokken.

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And Lancy can only use things he can conceptualize as weapons.

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That covers pretty much anything one can hold sans complicated weapons that weren't present in his time period (railguns, probably guns in general, etc) - and even then, they can become bludgeons anyway.

Looking at Musashi's sheet, he has one big thing, and that's swords. All this ability does is allow him to improvise "swords" from "sword-like objects" and make them useful against Heroic Spirits. I think Bee's terminology is what's getting everything mucked up here, as it doesn't create a Noble Phantasm weapon, but something that can be used to fence against one using a Noble Phantasm weapon. In other words, it allows Musashi to swordfight with King Arthur.

@Unoedipal

Am I allowed to say that Musashi' AGI is outrageously high? Come on, he's as fast as Not!Kojiroh (if I'm not wrong) which is supposed to be rather hard to match.

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I'm honestly fine with A rank. Not!Kojiro had A+, so the rank's the same, which is fine.

@Unoedipal

Am I allowed to say that Musashi' AGI is outrageously high? Come on, he's as fast as Not!Kojiroh (if I'm not wrong) which is supposed to be rather hard to match.

Also, @IncredibleBee, you at imagining one thing wrong. The problem with sword fighting King Arthur is that Prana Burst, out means that things that touch Arthuria literally go poof. I mean, it required a godly swordsman that far surpassed her skill and was so fan good that he made the world give up and grant him a shared of the 2nd Magic and an abnormally week made sword that could cut through steel to even that handicap, this at least most mean something.

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Damn swipe keyboard screwing my post. I hate it, but simply can't give up.

@Unoedipal

Am I allowed to say that Musashi' AGI is outrageously high? Come on, he's as fast as Not!Kojiroh (if I'm not wrong) which is supposed to be rather hard to match.

Also, @IncredibleBee, you at imagining one thing wrong. The problem with sword fighting King Arthur is that Prana Burst, out means that things that touch Arthuria literally go poof. I mean, it required a godly swordsman that far surpassed her skill and was so fan good that he made the world give up and grant him a shared of the 2nd Magic and an abnormally week made sword that could cut through steel to even that handicap, this at least most mean something.

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Damn swipe keyboard screwing my post. I hate it, but simply can't give up.

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You're forgetting two things. First of all, Kojiro was a real life person, and Musashi killed him with an oar.

Secondly, let's say we go by Fate's weird rules. The fabricated Kojiro conformed to the legend of Kojiro. In other words, Musashi would be stronger. Or rather, Kojiro would be fabricated to be weaker than a servant Musashi.

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But Musashi cheated instead of 1v1ing him properly.

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Using a wooden sword is cheating?

That also doesn't say that he had worse stats. Can we stop comparing stats now?