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@Nytem4re
Is it just the ultimate goal of those here to ignore literally everything I sat that doesn't fit their frame that they have created?

Granted, then. They're not the same. That invalidates nothing.

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My perspective and Shienvien's have essentially no differences, as far as I can tell.

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@Ellri

You already quoted that and I am not arguing against it.

@Frizan

You are still cherry picking what I say. I already said that what people write in PMs are their business, but when the concept is brought into Interest Check, an open forum, it becomes everybody else's. Whether or not you agree with what I say does not change the fact that successful argumentative discourse requires an argument to actually be made against the claim, lest it devolve into juvenile "I'm right and you're wrong."

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<Snipped quote by LegendBegins>

Then cut the "analogy" bullshit and speak plainly. What is your point?

@Frizan

Analogies exist in order to make concepts simple and easy to understand, and the Dev journal does not exist to be hostile to other RPG members. My entire point from those words is that the simple fact that something is an established genre does not mean it needs to be encouraged or given easy access to for minors. It also has the potential to hurt the reputation of the Guild, all of which I outlined at the top of this page. A rule of thumb is that if a line cannot be drawn so you can point out a clear difference between what should and should not be done, the movement that requires that line should not be made in the first place.

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@Ellri

That really has nothing to do with what I said.

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@Ellri

Despite the degradation that I do not appreciate, I "compared" the two not because they are equal, but because it is an analogy. Whether or not "there is nothing wrong" with it (which is getting into an argument of morality that is not worth discussing at this point), the purpose of any analogy relies on the fact that the two concepts are not equal, and wall attacking the concept itself, you created a straw-man, not arguing against what the analogy itself presented.

@NuttsnBolts

Similar to my response to Ellri, that has nothing to do with what I said.

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<Snipped quote by LegendBegins>

I agree with what Ellri said because erotica is an established genre.

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I just think it's easier to have a sub-section within 1x1 for libertine interest checks and for the number one requirement of rules are for it to take place in PM's and of course, be 18+.

I'm still thinking for another term other than libertine that isn't informal so other people can know what it means.

@Kitty Pryde

Following that vein of thought, so is child pornography. However, that does not make it right. I'm not for mandating what can and cannot be said via PMS, but I cannot support giving 18+ a recognized status and the ability to use this. It can lead to a worse set of issues, from participating minors to harassment. When forbidden, the Guild holds no liability, but when these are given recognition, it suddenly becomes condoned by RPG. If nothing else, it can tarnish the reputation of the Guild.

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The question is whether or not it is right to encourage that kind of behavior.

Myriad Reality

*X does not respond*

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It is also possible that a PM RP will be very SFW. It is necessary to keep them distinguished, if the two are recognized at all. While I doubt this will be the route, it's possible to simply ban inappropriate interest checks themselves.