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1 yr ago
Current Fuck yeah, girlfriend. Sit on that ass! Collect that unemployment check! Have free time 'n shit!
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3 yrs ago
Apologies to all writing partners both current & prospective. Been sick for two weeks straight (and have to go to work regardless). No energy. Can't think straight. Taking a hiatus. Sorry again.
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3 yrs ago
[@Ralt] He's making either a Fallout 4 reference or a S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky reference i can't tell
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3 yrs ago
"Well EXCUUUUSE ME if my RPs don't have plot, setting, characters, any artistry of language like imagery/symbolism, or any of the things half-decent fiction has! What am I supposed to do, improve?!"
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3 yrs ago
Where's the personality? The flavor? the drama? The struggle? The humanity? The texture of the time and the place in which this conversation is happening? In a word: where's the story?
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I want to do a comedy crossover RP in the Free section, where you play as the very first character you ever wrote back when you were a 13 year old shithead on Neopets or whatever.

So in my case, my character would be me. Literally me. Used my name as his name and my face as his portrait. Except according to the bio I had purple eyes and telekinesis.

I'd love to see just how bad we all were when we first started participating in this retarded-ass hobby.
I have no idea how to offer that criticism.


I like to offer compliments alongside the critiques, ideally at a 1:1 ratio. It lets them know that their contributions are valuable and that you derive enjoyment from them, despite their imperfections.
I wanted to talk about this since I noticed more than a few comments in other threads about people not reading a post or skimming it because it just wasn't interesting to read.


Since I'm one of those people, I guess I should chime in.

My utmost respect goes to the people who, while already talented, have not ended their quest to become better at their hobby of choice—in this case, writing. Next on the list is people who, while producing off-quality works, are still eager to improve. This category includes new people learning the ropes.

I hold little or no respect for any writer, good or bad, who is content with his current skill level.

But with that said, if you're offering people criticism without it having been requested first, you're doing a few things wrong even despite your heart being in the right place, wanting to help them improve:
  • You're veering on the edge of "backseat-GM" territory. Sometimes it just isn't your job particularly to burst that person's bubble, because the quality of the RP doesn't depend on your enforcements.
  • You're assuming you're a better writer than him in one or more areas, and therefore, in a position whereby he can learn from you. This may be true, but it's not something which can always be gauged easily. Some good writers are bad roleplayers and vice-versa.
  • You're assuming this person, and maybe the GM hosting the game, too, both hold themselves to the same standards as you, whereas they might judge writing quality by different parameters. After all, the player must have been good enough where the GM wanted to accept him at all, right?


I'll also point out that the more often you assume you're better than others at your shared hobby, the likelier it is that you suffer from Dunning-Kruger's. This seems especially common in the Guides section of the site, where our (entirely self-proclaimed) "elites" take it upon themselves to lecture others on right and wrong ways to engage in our hobby, a hobby where, supposedly, creativity and diversity of ideas and methods are held in greater esteem than most other virtues.

So, yeah. Even though I like to feel smugly superior to others, only under rare circumstances do I feel entitled to "fix" their errors, because they might not be committing errors at all, and I might be doing nothing (or worse) to "fix" them.

Not to out myself as a raging drunk or anything, but a guy named ralfystuff on YouTube likes to say sometimes: "It's not better, malt-mates. Just different."
@naptime They do it here too—I could list the ten or twenty who have done it to me personally—so thanks for the disclaimer, lest we made a totally different assumption.

If my opinion matters, I think blaming yourself is far more admirable than tending to blame them. Even if it wrecks your mental state, that's the attitude one needs to get better at writing, which, in theory, would make others more excited to stick by you through your partnerships. (Some people of course are just irreconcilable. Cunts.)
@Odin I don't blame him, seeing as you're a person whom's posts are not even to the quality of cheap hack today. ;^)
It really makes it hard to read other people's posts when 90% is pure fluff and personal thoughts of their character.


Glad I'm not alone in this. Thank God for college because while mostly useless, the one thing it invariably teaches lazy bastards like me is how to skim-read and gather only the most pertinent information from a long, bloated text. I read only the most necessary chunks of bad writers' posts because roleplaying is a hobby, and if my hobby makes me cringe and otherwise causes me discomfort instead of pleasure then it fails to serve its own fundamental purpose: entertainment. Having to skim five paragraphs for the two sentences of relevant information hidden therein is annoying enough without being told in this thread that I'm "disgusting" for daring not to enjoy myself as I trudge through a page of redundant and pretentious prose, dreadful characters, and superfluous information which will never help me assimilate into the game world.

Most players should be mature enough to suffer their own actions' consequences anyway, so if they end up not reading something which is crucial to the story then why not realize they brought it upon themselves? Wanting to force anyone to read your posts is arrogant enough, but doubly so when you declare on their behalf that you know better than them what information they should be gleaning from the texts.

Isn't that, like, a metaphysical example of "telling" instead of "showing"? Your writing should speak for itself. If this problem has followed people across many RPs then I'd propose that it's no longer an issue of audience but one of a writer who reliably fails to engage them. Instead of trying to hold your audience at gunpoint and coerce them into reading your bad posts, learning how to create a better hook and how to write in a more direct, precise style, one with fewer pointless details and less artistic autofellatio, will actually get them excited to read. If no one wants to read your contributions to the story then you should interpret their indifference as a chance to improve your skills, not a chance to feel indignant about no one paying attention to you. The real "disgusting" thing to be found in this thread is that some of you would rather blame your fellow roleplayers for problems which may very well reside within your own writing. I know that I for one am eager to read a thread (even one in which I'm not participating!) when the plot progresses steadily, the characters mature and develop in real time, and the setting and genre are presented in unique ways.

Food for thought. Of course this doesn't account for irreconcilable stylistic differences between players; you'll never please everyone, and some people aren't interested in reading anyone's writing but their own no matter how good it may be.
Thanks. I like being able to visualize my characters. In fact, if anybody wants, I'd happily try my hand at making your characters.


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