silentmusician

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I only said something because I remember reporting you to the moderators about your behavior. I find it hard someone was banned for just simply saying, I like guns, or being an ardent 2A supporter.

Considering that there were people who were not banned for saying that the Rohingya deserved everything the Myanmar goverment was doing to them, yes, I feel you are lying severely about what you were really banned for.

If it really is true that they banned for for being pro 2A/black then why don't you provide some evidence? Surely this would be a bombshell revelation and it would only be beneficial to you to release such evidence.

@Nytem4re

Remember, he asked for it:

Call To Action: Marginalized Groups Must Be Recognized In The Rules

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You know, I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure you were banned because you started going off on some weird rant about race and nothing to do with gun control. If I remember correctly even, you started ranting about how quote "default skin color was white, now it's black" in rpg or some weird shit like that.

I'm also pretty sure you were the guy who went into CA or somewhere on the rpg discord and told everyone covid wasn't real, but sure. Gun control I guess.

@Nytem4re

I'm pretty sure you making up lies to smear my name. I was waiting for someone to come along and try to paint the issue for what it was not. I expected you to have some honor and decency to not go after an obvious reply, but you did it anyway. An applause to you.

I was kicked cause I spoke in defense of guns. Don't try that smear campaign on me. I'm too old to tolerate childish antics anymore.

because preventing people from making derogatory comments about protected groups and getting away with it because it wasn't individual harassment is totally the same as saying "we are never going to ban black people ever".

there were lots of deliberations in the past because the guild rules only ever covered targeted harassment of individuals; nothing was ever said about groups of people. that's why the change was put in place.

@crocker

You're right. It's only now allowed cause the mods really learned their lessons!

Call To Action: Marginalized Groups Must Be Recognized In The Rules

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Left is the rules circa December 2020. Right is as of this morning.

Figured I'd post that since not all changes are immediately obvious and do involve word choice.

@Lithfangel

The Guild does not tolerate behaviour which incites hatred against, promotes discrimination of, or disparages an individual or group on the basis of their race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, age, nationality, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or other characteristic that is associated with systemic discrimination or marginalization.

*laughs in black*

Irony.

Call To Action: Marginalized Groups Must Be Recognized In The Rules

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I'm very aware of that constitutional right, and the controversy around it but that is neither here nor there as it is a touchy subject that sets plenty of people off,

@Dark Cloud

Frankly, it was not really a bad discussion, at least from my side. Just a few actors in the discord did not like the pro-gun crowd, so I, and likely others, were removed for it. If that is all it takes to get kicked from the discord, and the rules are the same for the site itself, we all are going to live very short lives.

Call To Action: Marginalized Groups Must Be Recognized In The Rules

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I have no opinions on the laws in place as I live in Canada, regardless the thing that I clearly can tell is that if you make someone uncomfortable with your viewpoint on a subject you'll be struck by the swift might of the ban-hammer and that in itself is a problematic matter. Something like this was bound to happen and now this has created an entirely new issue. In most cases it is understandable but when someone has an opinion that shouldn't be as inflammatory it brings me to worry on the judgement of those who make the decision of whether they punish someone or let them off with a warning.

@Dark Cloud

And that's the issue here. The real one: No one is being punished for being inflammatory. They're being punished for holding different viewpoints. The rules they added don't change anything. And I feel this needs to be addressed more than anything.

Summary: the rules won't stop anything. More or less of them won't change the discord either.

Call To Action: Marginalized Groups Must Be Recognized In The Rules

@silentmusician So you were "silenced", so to speak which in my point of view leads me to believe no matter the infraction someone or something will be punished.

@Dark Cloud

Unfortunately, yes. Not for anything ill on my part. I did not insult anyone or even downplay people's traits. It was simply cause I liked guns. That's literally the reason I got kicked. lol

Which is ironic considering I'm black. You'd think they'd like black guys who like guns considering we are one of the most marginalized groups in America. Already broke one of their rules. I didn't come to this site to be told again that guns are bad. I heard it enough from politicians that keep disarming our communities.

Call To Action: Marginalized Groups Must Be Recognized In The Rules

@silentmusician

They spelled out what isn't allowed by basically copying what Google's Adsense doesn't allow, at least, if you want a page to be monetized with ads. The dozen or so people who demanded the change basically got what they wanted. There's no grounds for them or for anyone to ask for additional changes to the rules. We're already accountable to the rules and to the mods and admins of the site, not to a group of self-appointed crusaders. That's the thing, whenever anyone says they want to hold you "accountable", it's important to ask "accountable to what?" They often mean "accountable to my view of how the world should be."

@Aristocles

I'm aware of why they did it. There was another reason they did it, and it was because supposedly, the discord was still ripe with problems. Problems that were still going on despite "problem makers" having been removed from it.

To give context, I was one of the people who engaged in the politics channel for some time. It use to be far more sensible and mature, but then certain parties did not like certain opinions. And thus, people like myself were removed. And now I come back to this news that for some reason "issues are still going on." And they had to remove said channel to curb it. This is not the first time that channel has been removed and added back. Clearly there is a fundamental problem going on.

I see no evidence that anything really changed, and I'm certain the problems will keep occurring no matter how many words they put into the rules. Personally, I have a solution that would solve all their problems if they really cared to have a good environment. Unfortunately, it would require a great sacrifice on their part that they would not want to take themselves.

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@Mao Mao Probably hours before I was informed that the proposal had gone through. q:

I was holding off celebrating until the changes went live. So, tonight, I get to go drinking and eat something fancy.

@FrankenDaughter

So what actually changed? I saw the rules and I don't see any differences in the people there. I'm one of said people that were kicked from the discord for having different opinions, and there was still problems occurring even with me not there.

So again: what has actually changed?

Call To Action: Marginalized Groups Must Be Recognized In The Rules

lol are they trying to extend the rule of Discord to the site now? How sad.

Gaian Tenkaichi Budokai VII - RP Fighting Tournament

Hello. Sounds interesting!

@darkred

Heya. Join the discord if you like.