sly13

The Darkest Minds

i would be down for that

Sentaku

Tetsu Hokori

Theme

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_{“I will prove that im meant to be here”}

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Personal

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_{N A M E}

Tetsu Hokori
"Master of Iron"

_{A G E}

14

_{C L A N}

Hokori

_{S E X U A L I T Y}

Straight

_{B L O O D T Y P E}

AB-

Characterization

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_{H E I G H T}

5’5

_{E Y E S}

Blue

_{H A I R}

Red messy hair that always just seems to fall perfect place without effort.

_{H E A D B A N D P L A C E M E N T}

tied around his upper arm

_{C H A K R A N A T U R E}

Fūton | Wind
Doton | Earth

_{P E R S O N A L I T Y}

•Patient
•Intelligent
•Respectful
•Driven
•Closed off
•Ruthless
•Prideful
•Cold

_{P E R S O N A L H I S T O R Y}

Tetsu had a very different childhood than most kids from the village. Tetsu grew up never knowing his real mother or father or if he had a clan to call his own by blood. Tetsu as far as he knows was taken in as an infant after his family abandoned him on the doorsteps of his adopted family. This, of course, left a large amount of resentment in Tetsu’s heart towards whoever his original family was and a very dark view of the world around him. On the upside of this, it has given Tetsu all the motivation in the world to train relentlessly to show that he wasn’t a mistake or something meant to be thrown away.

Of course, this was only amplified by his family at home. In all honesty, he didn’t hate his adopted family but it was always hard to feel connected when you weren’t from the same blood as your siblings. His “Father” while nice enough was always an asshole to an extent that constantly pushed him to work harder than he was, which was already too dangerous levels. Some took this as simply wanting a child to succeed but Tetsu always felt like there was more behind his constant pushing.

Of course unknown to Tetsu was his suspicions were right. Tetsu never truly belonged to the Leaf Village but was in fact born in the Sand Village to a very powerful yet small clan. Like Tetsu himself, the clan was full of Magnet Style specialists who all had an affinity for controlling a different mineral in the earth. During one of the last days of the war, Tetsu’s clan did battle with a large Leaf invasion force that left the clan massacred. Those that managed to live fled and scared across the continent leaving and infant Tetsu alone to the leaf ninja. Not finding the heart to kill the child a leaf Jonin took the child back to be taken care of and raised as a leaf ninja.

Being raised a Leaf ninja and being expected to be a powerful asset to the village meant Tetsu enrolled in the Acadamy as soon as he came of age. Pushing himself constantly meant that he quickly became one of the top students throughout his time as a student. As far as friends went Tetsu really didn’t have any during his time at the academy. Most students avoided him altogether if at all possible. Whether this came from the respect for his abilities or fear of them Tetsu didn’t quite know nor did he care all that much. While he kept away from most of the students, with a few exceptions, he did grow a level of respect for the other students who seemed dedicate themselves to training as much as he had.

_{C H A R A C T E R D E V E L O P M E N T}

for power-wise, I would love to see Tetsu get stronger after the time skip. eventually reaching to where people like Garra and similar Ninja were at. along with creating his own interesting ways to use his abilities. and maybe working on his weak points while still using the Iron Sand.

as far as storytelling possibly looking for his other clan members after he leaves the village and either making sure their ok or trying to rebuild the clan. whether that comes by just bring them all together or by finding a future wife will depend on how the story goes.

Additionally, an option that could come up is a redemption arc for Tetsu after he leaves the village. most likely won't be full redemption more of just helping for his own reason but I wouldn't count out the possibility of him being pulled back to the side of good.

Attributes

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_{T A L E N T S}

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• Larger the average Chakra- unlike most Genin of his level Tetsu has very large Chakra reserve in comparison
• Secound Nature Magent style- Through his constant traing and almost exclusive practie with his Kekkai Genkai has made controlling iron sand secound nature to him.
• Stone Face- even in the worst possibly circumstances Tetsu never seems to show emotion. The few times he has slipt have often not ended well for the person pushing him to that point.

_{T O O L S}

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• Large container made of and full of Iron Sand.

_{T E C H N I Q U E S}

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_{C R A N K}

• NA

_{D R A N K}

• NA

Other

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_{K E K K A I G E N K A I}

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_{N A M E}

• Magnet Release

_{A B I L I T I E S}

• Iron Clone- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Iron_Sand_Clone
• Iron Drizzle- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sand_Drizzle
• Iron Sand Coffin- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sand_Binding_C…
• Iron Sand Burial- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sand_Waterfall…
• Iron Armor- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Armour_of_Sand
• Thrid Eye- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Third_Eye

_{A P P E A R A N C E}

• When ever the Kekkai Genkai is in use dark black circels form around the eyes.

_{S U M M O N I N G J U T S U}

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_NA

Sentaku: A Naruto RP

Tetsu Hokori

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_{“I will prove that im meant to be here”}

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Personal

---

_{N A M E}

Tetsu Hokori
"Master of Iron"

_{A G E}

14

_{C L A N}

Hokori

_{S E X U A L I T Y}

Straight

_{B L O O D T Y P E}

AB-

Characterization

---

_{H E I G H T}

5’3

_{E Y E S}

Green

_{H A I R}

Red messy hair that always just seems to fall perfect place without effort.

_{H E A D B A N D P L A C E M E N T}

on the shoulder of his coat

_{C H A K R A N A T U R E}

Fūton | Wind
Doton | Earth

_{P E R S O N A L I T Y}

•Patient
•Intelligent
•Respectful
•Closed off
•Ruthless
•Prideful
•Cold

_{P E R S O N A L H I S T O R Y}

Tetsu had a very different childhood than most kids from the village. Tetsu grew up never knowing his real mother or father or if he had a clan to call his own by blood. Tetsu as far as he knows was taken in as an infant after his family abandoned him on the doorsteps of his adopted family. This, of course, left a large amount of resentment in Tetsu’s heart towards whoever his original family was and a very dark view of the world around him. On the upside of this, it has given Tetsu all the motivation in the world to train relentlessly to show that he wasn’t a mistake or something meant to be thrown away.

Of course, this was only amplified by his family at home. In all honesty, he didn’t hate his adopted family but it was always hard to feel connected when you weren’t from the same blood as your siblings. His “Father” while nice enough was always an asshole to an extent that constantly pushed him to work harder than he was, which was already too dangerous levels. Some took this as simply wanting a child to succeed but Tetsu always felt like there was more behind his constant pushing.

Of course unknown to Tetsu was his suspicions were right. Tetsu never truly belonged to the Leaf Village but was in fact born in the Sand Village to a very powerful yet small clan. Like Tetsu himself, the clan was full of Magnet Style specialists who all had an affinity for controlling a different mineral in the earth. During one of the last days of the war, Tetsu’s clan did battle with a large Leaf invasion force that left the clan massacred. Those that managed to live fled and scared across the continent leaving and infant Tetsu alone to the leaf ninja. Not finding the heart to kill the child a leaf Jonin took the child back to be taken care of.

_{C H A R A C T E R D E V E L O P M E N T}

[color=A9A9A9][/color]

Attributes

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_{T A L E N T S}

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• Genius- both in terms of startagy and just as a nija in general
• Larger the average Chakra- unlike most Genin of his level Tetsu has very large Chakra reserve in comparison

_{T O O L S}

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• Container made of and full of Iron Sand

_{T E C H N I Q U E S}

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_{C R A N K}

• NA

_{D R A N K}

• NA

Other

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_{K E K K A I G E N K A I}

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_{N A M E}

• Magnet Release

_{A B I L I T I E S}

• Iron Clone Jutsu- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Iron_Sand_Clone
• Iron Wall- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Desert_Wave
• Iron wave- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Iron_Sand_Wave
• Iron Successive Shot- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Successive_Sho…
• Iron Sand Coffin- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sand_Binding_C…
• Iron Sand Burial- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sand_Waterfall…
• Iron Armor- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Armour_of_Sand
• Thrid Eye- naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Third_Eye

_{A P P E A R A N C E}

• No appearance other than the dark red hair as a give away of his clan.

_{S U M M O N I N G J U T S U}

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_NA

super bare-bones right now just a place holder.

Sentaku: A Naruto RP

you already know im down

Taking Back a Kingdom

this sounds like something I could potentially get behind.

Star Wars - Knights of the Last Republic

Trycond Lonesh

[Trycond Lonesh]

Age:
26
Species:
Human (Corellian)
Initiate Trials:

Physical Appearance:

Lightsaber:


Blue Double bladed lightsaber that is able to fold in the middle of the hilt

Skills:
Ever since Trycond was a small youngling he has always had a natural affinity for lightsaber combat. Being able to grasp the basic forms and movements at a much faster rate allowed him to dedicate more time to the more complex forms he prefers now. As he continued his training however he discovered that the form most fitting and complementary to his views of fighting was Form IV. however, as time has passed Trycond has found himself slowly and secretly learning the arts of Form VII.

Outside of his lightsaber skills, Trycond is also a great leader and general wheater it is from a capital ship or fighting alongside his clones on the front lines.

Force Abilities:

Weaknesses:

Character History:

Star Wars - Knights of the Last Republic

I could be interested in this for sure

Mobius Academy: The City in the Sky

Anton, Alexander, Phillip

Anton looked up from his seat to see another student had entered their dorm area. The boy stared at Alexander and himself before asking for an Anton Rasputin. Rising from his seat Anton slowly made his way over to the boy who had just entered. Once Anton was in front of the boy the difference in height was easy to tell with Anton towering over the boy in a very menacing fashion. All that was quickly dropped however as Anton smiled wide extending his hand out. “Greetings Comrade, I am Anton. What is your name?”

Phillip was somewhat silently cursing himself. Of the two giants, the one who towered over the other would end up being Anton. He wasn’t a mathematician or even that great at math in general, but he had gut instincts and right now, Phillip’s gut was telling him this guy was at least a foot taller. How could someone his age be so flippin tall!?

Being a few feet away was one thing, but Phil hadn’t prepared himself for right up close and personal with one of the behemoths. He was already anticipating persisting neck problems because of how much he would have to look up just to meet Anton at eye level.

Swallowing the twisting feeling in his gut and throat, Phil shook the man’s hand, surprising himself when his grip wasn’t as weak as he felt right now. “Nice to meet ya. I’m Phillip.” Again, he surprised himself by not stuttering. “You’re quite the big guy, aren’t ya?” Humor was his way of dealing with uncomfortable situations.

Anton stared for a brief moment before he let a small laugh. “We tend to grow big in mother Russia.” lowering his hand to the side Anton continued to speak. “Nice to meet you, Philip.” Anton was trying his best to be polite and nice to the new student as to not scare him. Anton had learned that his height had a way of intimidating people much smaller than him. “Come join us at the table. We are all friends here.” Anton motioned towards the table that he and Alexander were sitting at.

Alex nodded towards the newcomer and grinned, ”Nice to meet you, my names Alex. We were just wondering who our roommates were. Looks like Anton found his.” Alex was glad to meet another member of their class even if they weren’t his roommate. Alex noticed the staggering height difference between Anton and Phillip and almost laughed out loud. With those two stayings together he should be able to laugh at this quite a bit. “If you don’t mind me asking, what are your abilities?”

Phillip took a seat at the table and glanced at both. Even sitting down they hovered well over his head, which was fine. This was the perfect chance for him to make one hell of an impression. “Oh, well, uh.” He stumbled for words, trying to figure a way to word it. “I can manipulate vibrations in the ground, air, and even my own. Let me show you.”

Phillip placed his hand on the top of the table and began to vibrate it as minimally as he could. In a response, the table shook and moved a few inches to the left. “I can do other things too. Like, I actually flew here using my power, though I did veer off course cause of that Rainbow girl,” he mused aloud, snickering to himself. “Anyway, yeah that’s what I can do. Pretty dope, huh?”

Anton started surprised at the table as he watched it shake. “Impressive power.” Anton’s eyes arched a bit at the mention of Phil flying. “That’s amazing, I bet flying like bird is fun.”

“My powers are a little less interesting than yours.” Lifting his arm once more showing the back of it to Phil he seemed to flex slightly as metal began forming along the arm. Staring at his shoulder there was an odd sound of sliding as the metal made its way down until it covered his whole arm. “I can cover my body in a metal skin making me almost indestructible and even stronger.” Pausing for a second Anton looked at his arm concentrating for a second making his hand flat. After a moment the hand-molded into more of a point turning the arm into a spear. “I can also shift the metal to suit my needs.”

“Shieeeet bro!” Phillip exclaimed in awe, eyes widened as he decided to get a closer look at the spear. He stood up on his seat to get a better look and was glued to it. “And you’re, like, pretty freaking tall as it is. What else can you do with it?” Phillip asked, keen on the answer.

Anton smiled at the boy's enthusiasm, it was rare that someone was interested in his powers and this slightly threw him off. “Well I can shape it to a variety of weapons.” After starring this the spear shifted again into a large hammer object. After another moment in the hammer form, he let his arm return to normal. “If you think I’m tall now.” After saying this Anton stood from his chair taking a step back from the table.

Letting his body relax for a moment Anton shut his eyes taking in a breath. Opening his eyes Anton tensed his whole body allowing the metal skin to cover his entire body from head to toe. As a bonus, he increased in height by over another foot. “The metal form also makes me taller and heavier along with the increase in strength.”

Watching Anton transform into that metal form was just as amazing as it was frightening for the short male. He was a stick when the Russian teen was just himself, but encased in the metal and growing the extra inches (again Phillip is terribad at math), he could only watch with his mouth open, eyes widened, and nothing but inaudible words escaping his mouth. A lot of words left but none forming complete thoughts.

Phillip pulled himself together. “T-that’s so fucking rad man! Have you tested how much damage you can sustain?” Phillip asked, curious, his entire demeanor going from thoughtless to being full of thoughts like the flip of a switch.

Anton's metal skin slowly moved away as his body shrank back to its normal size. Stretching his head Anton held a thoughtful look. “I’m not sure really. I still feel some pain when I get hit, though it is much less than normal. As for my limits, however, I’m not too sure about when it would give. Currently, the only thing I have found that counters my ability is him.” Anton said as he pointed over to Alexander who was still sitting. “That or large and powerful magnets.” Anton shuddered slightly as he remembered past experiences with the danger room back at the mansion.

Now Phillip was curious and even more so, wanted to test out his own limits too. And with the current train of thought, he was entertaining, though neither of these men knew it because they barely knew him, but when Phillip’s lips curled into the mischievous smirk it had just formed, it always meant something fun, if not just a little dangerous for others, crossed the often-evil mind of his.

“Have you ever thought about testing your powers out? Because,” he paused, smiling at the two, “I think we could have a lot of fun out there in the fields with just us, our wits, and our powers. It sure as hell beats just hanging around looking all bored, doesn’t it?”

Anton stood thinking for a moment about Philippe's offer. He did enjoy training and it seemed like a good way to bond with his future teammates, plus it was better than sitting around and doing nothing. “Sure I love training.” Pausing for a moment he looked to Alexander. “What do you say, Comrade? Care to join us for some sparing?”


Alex was trying not to laugh at Anton's little joke about him while he listened to the training idea. While he liked the idea of training and getting to know his classmates better, he had a small problem. “That sounds like it could be some fun, though there might be a small problem. We would have to find a school facility to train in because I am unable to use my abilities outside.” As Alex said this he lifted up his chin and pointed to the collar around his neck. The black band had a small blinking green light on the right side of it that showed he had yet to set off any alarms. “If we can find somewhere to train I would love to join you guys.”

He was ecstatic that both of them were down for some unsanctioned training, but this wasn’t Phillip’s forte. He was never that great at remembering exactly where what was in any location. He usually remembered places he explored, but having not been given the chance to do that, he couldn’t say where the best place would be to get it done. “Okay so this is fantastic, but do you guys know where they keep the training facilities? I haven’t gotten around to doing some proper exploring.” He nervously laughed, somewhat embarrassed considering the idea was his, to begin with.

Anton thought for a moment about where they could all train with their powers. Outside definitely wasn't an option considering how out of hand things could get id they wanted to push some of their limits. Of course, he did know of some danger room eques type areas that his father had told him about. “I know of a place similar to the danger room back at the mansion we could train.” Anton said motioning for the three to follow him.

“Sounds good, after we meet the other members of our class we should go check it out.” Alex was getting slightly excited thinking about being able to train and use his powers for the first time in a while. Not since before arriving at the mansion had he been able to fully utilize his abilities. “Do you think everyone is here, or are we waiting for a few more classmates.?”

colab: @pandapolio @Altered Tundra

Star Wars(AU) - After Knightfall

Thodall Vizsla

Thodall Vizsla

Armor

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normal

| {Full Name} |

Thodall Vizsla

| {Age} |

35

| {Species} |

Mandalorian

| {Gender} |

Male

| {Force Sensitive/Alignment} |

No

| {Appearance} |

Thodall is around average height for a human male but with an athletic body that shows years of training and combat. Thodall keeps his blonde hair to a manageable length stopping it from getting in the way but enough to still look good. Thodall also keeps a short beard that is a few shades darker than his hair is normally. Thodall’s eyes are a dull blue color that borders on the line of grey as if their color as been dulled down.

| {Equipment and Personal Belongings} |

Mandalorian Armor-

• Made of Beskar
• Traditional Helmet with macro binoculars view plate, tactical displays, comlink, and Flashlights.
• Left Vambracer- Whistling birds, Grappling line, retractable wrist blade
• Right, Vambracer- Flame Thrower, Repulsor, retractable wrist blade
• Boots- Magnetized
• Armor is predominately black with some red accents. Mostly around the T visor in the helmet. Additionally, Thodall’s chest piece shows the Mandalorian symbol painted in red.

Jet Pack

• Modified Z-6 for a stronger frame and better reliability but sacrificing maximum height.
• Anti-Vehicle rocket
• Same color as armor

Weapons

• Duel Heavy Westar blaster pistols. (preferred Weapon)
• 2x EMP grenades “Droid Poppers”
• 3x Thermal detonator
• Vibro Blade
• Mandalorian Westar blaster rifle

| {Physical Abilities} |

from birth Thodall was taught and preferred close counters combat. This came in the form of both hands to hand as well as using his pistols and armor to give him an edge in combat. Thodall is also a good mechanic so long as it doesn’t evolve to much electoral work.

| {Force Abilities} |

None

| {Limitations} |

Like any Mandalorian Thodall is very prideful about his people and their way of life leading him to be hot-headed if the right buttons are pushed. Additionally, because he views it as un honorable Thodall has little to no practice with any kind of long-range rifle.

| {Personality} |

Raised as a true son of Mandalore Thodall embodies most of the qualities one would expect from a Mandalorian born into Clan Vizsla. Yet behind all the confidence and stoicism, Thodall is a caring and compassionate man who wishes to see all of Mandalore thrive. This amount of dedication to his people and their culture has left Thodall hotheaded when his people are insulted. While his anger can get the better of him Thodall finds caring for his armor a calming act and is quite compulsive when it comes to upkeep on all his gear.

| {Place of Origin} |

Mandalore’s moon Concordia

| {Background} |

Thodall was born to a loving but firm family on the moon Concordia under the banner of Vizsla and by extension Death Watch. Growing up under the old ways of Mandalore meant Thodall was trained from birth to be a master warrior in both body and mind. Along with the physical conditioning, Thodall was taught the history of Mandalore and military strategy turning him into not only a blunt force object but a cunning warrior.

For Thodall all this hard work paid off when he finally came of age to dawn his own armor. Coming from hundreds of years of work and dedication Thodalls Armor, like all Mandalorian Armor, was a work of art in it of its self. Seeing the armor as more than just a piece of metal he wore Thodall took care of the relic in a compulsive manner. Constant care for one’s equipment meant that it would serve its owner well and never falter. This saying has proven itself more times than Thodall can count. From the battle for Mandalore under the leadership of Pre Vizsla and the old deathwatch, through his more recent years working to recover stolen Mandalorian artifacts and Beskar with the new Deathwatch.

Thodall can still remember that day as if it had just happened, The day that changed Mandalores direction forever. On that day Thodall felt a wave of emotions. Anger at the fact that his people had to work with a sith lord to reclaim what was rightfully theirs in the first place. He felt a seance of joy and pride in seeing that a true Mandalorian was once again in charge of Mandalore and would see it returned to its rightful place. But Thodall also felt a great sadness that the realization of his family’s dream came at the cost of their leader. Seeing his former leader sent to the final patrol Thodall swore an oath that he would do all he could to see Mandalore returned to its true glory in honor of Pre Vizsla.

Star Wars(AU) - After Knightfall

Thodall Vizsla

Thodall Vizsla

Armor

]

normal

| {Full Name} |

Thodall Vizsla

| {Age} |

35

| {Species} |

Mandalorian

| {Gender} |

Male

| {Force Sensitive/Alignment} |

No

| {Appearance} |

Thodall is around average height for a human male but with an athletic body that shows years of training and combat. Thodall keeps his blonde hair to a manageable length stopping it from getting in the way but enough to still look good. Thodall also keeps a short beard that is a few shades darker than his hair is normally. Thodall’s eyes are a dull blue color that borders on the line of grey as if their color as been dulled down.

| {Equipment and Personal Belongings} |

Mandalorian Armor-

• Made of Beskar
• Traditional Helmet with macro binoculars view plate, tactical displays, comlink, and Flashlights.
• Left Vambracer- Whistling birds, Grappling line, retractable wrist blade
• Right, Vambracer- Flame Thrower, Repulsor, retractable wrist blade
• Boots- Magnetized
• Armor is predominately black with some red accents. Mostly around the T visor in the helmet. Additionally, Thodall’s chest piece shows the Mandalorian symbol painted in red.

Jet Pack

• Modified Z-6 for a stronger frame and better reliability but sacrificing maximum height.
• Anti-Vehicle rocket
• Same color as armor

Weapons

• Duel Heavy Westar blaster pistols. (preferred Weapon)
• 2x EMP grenades “Droid Poppers”
• 3x Thermal detonator
• Vibro Blade
• Mandalorian Westar blaster rifle

| {Physical Abilities} |

from birth Thodall was taught and preferred close counters combat. This came in the form of both hands to hand as well as using his pistols and armor to give him an edge in combat. Thodall is also a good mechanic so long as it doesn’t evolve to much electoral work.

| {Force Abilities} |

None

| {Limitations} |

Like any Mandalorian Thodall is very prideful about his people and their way of life leading him to be hot-headed if the right buttons are pushed. Additionally, because he views it as un honorable Thodall has little to no practice with any kind of long-range rifle.

| {Personality} |

Raised as a true son of Mandalore Thodall embodies most of the qualities one would expect from a Mandalorian born into Clan Vizsla. Yet behind all the confidence and stoicism, Thodall is a caring and compassionate man who wishes to see all of Mandalore thrive. This amount of dedication to his people and their culture has left Thodall hotheaded when his people are insulted. While his anger can get the better of him Thodall finds caring for his armor a calming act and is quite compulsive when it comes to upkeep on all his gear.

| {Place of Origin} |

Mandalore’s moon Concordia

| {Background} |

Thodall was born to a loving but firm family on the moon Concordia under the banner of Vizsla and by extension Death Watch. Growing up under the old ways of Mandalore meant Thodall was trained from birth to be a master warrior in both body and mind. Along with the physical conditioning, Thodall was taught the history of Mandalore and military strategy turning him into not only a blunt force object but a cunning warrior.

For Thodall all this hard work paid off when he finally came of age to dawn his own armor. Coming from hundreds of years of work and dedication Thodalls Armor, like all Mandalorian Armor, was a work of art in it of its self. Seeing the armor as more than just a piece of metal he wore Thodall took care of the relic in a compulsive manner. Constant care for one’s equipment meant that it would serve its owner well and never falter. This saying has proven itself more times than Thodall can count. From the battle for Mandalore under the leadership of Pre Vizsla and the old deathwatch, through his more recent years working to recover stolen Mandalorian artifacts and Beskar with the new Deathwatch.

Thodall can still remember that day as if it had just happened, The day that changed Mandalores direction forever. On that day Thodall felt a wave of emotions. Anger at the fact that his people had to work with a sith lord to reclaim what was rightfully theirs in the first place. He felt a seance of joy and pride in seeing that a true Mandalorian was once again in charge of Mandalore and would see it returned to its rightful place. But Thodall also felt a great sadness that the realization of his family’s dream came at the cost of their leader. Seeing his former leader sent to the final patrol Thodall swore an oath that he would do all he could to see Mandalore returned to its true glory in honor of Pre Vizsla.