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Now imagine... A Guild Moderator... but with a voyeuristic fetish and the power of Sauron's all-seeing eye to peer into our DM's...
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If you run into flat earthers in an alleyway you just need to go around the corner and they'll stop following you.
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How romantic... and yet also all the things a Lich would say methinks...
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We will be serving guests this Thanksgiving. So if you wish to attend be prepared to be roasted and carved...
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If we start making creatures of shadows or other kinds of OP creatures, I call dibs on making Cthulu


You can have your Cthulhu.
For I shall be Hastur, the King Clad in Yellow.
"I wanna start a fight!" The vampire DJ egged the entire bar scene on. She was immune to it all, but the battle drummer of old, filling the ears with the march of war. On and on the music droned, the beats and rhythm to the nodding of her head as her headset rocked the chorus around her ears. The lights and fog machine were dimmed at her controls, her fingertips playing the keyboard of the bar as clarity came to all participants. The mist lifted, letting Solider see their enemy, and their enemy see them. Dozens of vampires, against a mere squad of Four Solider members? Well given they were with a vampire that could easily overpower most at the bar right now, the numbers would not be in their favour. Plus there were the bystanding humans which would certainly support their vampire acquaintances, and must be fought too. Yet innocent blood would be shed tonight, and blood drank by the stone floors. Perhaps it was ironic then that this fight began quite literally with the first drunken shot.

Peace was shattered in an instant. The veil drawn by Rin's revelation of who they were. While at first the tensions at the bar was simply to dispose of these poorly disguised hunters, getting the name of Solider out and about was sure to spell death for all involved. And so it was, that a few vampires dropped dying, vampires laid together with their human supporters. Killed by Rin's gruesome possession and the cruel betrayal done to exorcise her control. The body count was increasing on the losing side, but certainly for every enemy the killed, more would rise up and take their place, it was after all their bar. How would Four solider members and a traitorous Vampire get out of this one alive? They should have just continued to drink their questionable mixed drinks and highballs to do their recon like normal people. Scope the place out for an operation later in the month. Return with keen intel on the tactical layout, the regulars, the patrons, and most of all the owner.

Yes, certainly surrounded now from all sides, even with the transforming werewolf and two more vampires from the outside joining this sudden frenzy of the four B's: bullets, blood and blades, and beer. What on earth possessed such outsiders to come in? Even the human Mafioso who decided to show up tonight of all nights. Caught in the crossfire between vampire and humans, to the point were he would find himself assaulted by two vampire punks, seriously punks by clothing and appearance, to grab him and take him as their prisoner or snack. That being said a man of his blackhand would keep themselves armed no? Which is to say the least of the vampires who were not allowed to bring weaponry into the bar. Well only one weapon was allowed to be carried by a vampire in Du Lac. And only one vampire possessed that weapon. The music faded away, just as the fight began to escalate. But worry not for a new tract played:



The cracking of the pool bottom signaled the loungers upstairs to the battle below. Those who had already seen the commotion had long since left the pool, taking on clothes to venture down to join the action or flee by the upper causeway outside into the balcony. It was a night to never forget, and certainly the bar would be destroyed by the end of the night. But alas, it was night. So the night calls upon him, or rather the panic button pressed underneath the bar, which alerted the chain of command to alert him. Arthur King of Britons was long gone, dead and gone, but his legacy was not lost. For his Lord Marshall now rules in his stead, waiting for a return to Camelot, and Avalon to ferry them to the utopia he sees. So the glass cracked at last, shattering into the pieces and shards upon the dance floor with its vast amount of water soaking everyone below with the cool refreshing waters and fizzling out the circuits above to kill the lights and the music which began to scratch itself repeating the lines of chorus over and over again. As the DJ franticly attempted to restore order.

Yet order would be restored by the darkness which emerged from the cascading water. A shadow, a form of a man, tall and stately, walking as one may take a stroll through a conflict zone. His shoes stepping over the glass bits and bleeding bodies beneath him, far beneath him as his umbrella tapped the floor twice as he passed by towards the bar. Dressed sharply in a black three-piece double-breasted suit, which, was still dry compared to everyone else in the bar with rightful lordly airs, approaching the bar with each show-stopping step taken. The bar gravitated towards his sudden appearance, his pallor skin, long ghostly hair and judgmental red eyes. The older vampires looked away, some trembled, while the youngers were stopped in shock and awe. This was him, the Lord of the Isles, Owner of the bar, and the Old Codger himself: Lord Bedivere. And he did not look amused at all as he struck down the barkeep with his closed black umbrella with a wicked blow to the temple.

"What a way to Welcome our guests to London." Plainly stated as the bar seemed to grow darker still, the lights dimming as darkness pooled around them, sourced from the umbrella which had smited the bartender dead where he stood. The Lord was displeased at the state of his bar, this ruinous slice of sanctum destroyed so easily and for what? Walking behind the counter now to pick up a bottle of something sealed well upon the top shelf and pouring himself a sniffer of the blood-brandywine as if ignoring the rest of the crowd which still waited for his next statement like children. Sure Solider could take this time to shoot, or the rest of the stragglers do something about it, but was it really wise to do so? Now in the ever growing darkness after all, the old blood was no fool to let his guard down even if it was to a bunch of humans and a wet dog. So they would wait, unless they wanted to die just like the bartender who summoned him here too late.

"Well, carry on then, you may continue killing each other and destroying this place, after all I have a very good insurance policy on it. However I would suggest to Solider and the rest of you that they lower their weapons and listen well." There it came at last, stern as a schoolteacher which had just reprimanded a bunch of rambunctious children at recess. Letting the message sink in, and perhaps the darkness grow even heavier as his dark suit began to meld into the shadows of the bar around him, Bedivere sipped at his incarnadine drink before continuing, "Consider our options here Sir Varomere," the Elder poured out another glass, and gestured to it for Mithias to take, and began to pour another for Rin. "Solider has sent five members into certainly start an international incident between the UK and this little group of vampire hunters and vampire-hunting vampires. Four Pawns and one Knight for this old Knight? Yet certainly I'd would be willing to wager that this little showdown here will not go without consequences, for you see, there are four natural options remaining here."

"The First, of course is that your Solider group here slays all witnesses before word gets out of an unprovoked, unsanctioned, and unlawful attack on human citizens of the UK. And of course I mean every witness. The mangy Mutt and humans included to keep your secret mission a secret from the Local Authorities." The first move explained, like a chessplayer feeding his opponent their moves and the fates that shall become of them as Bedivere calmly sipped his drink."

"The Second, would be to retreat and flee while you can, returning to Solider, and leaving us to report the attack, Solider becomes branded as a terrorist organization, and there is a high likelihood that Solider will deny such claims to preserve their false front as mere peacekeepers than hunters. Thus to cut their losses, they shall abandon you and your squad as rogue operatives, and leave you to the whims of being hunted by the rest of the world. For four pawns are expendable after all, in the grand scheme of the game."

"The third, and perhaps my personal choice, would be to join me, well at least you Sir Varomere, may join the proper side of this extraneous vampire and human conflict, and... Lady Omahasit is it? Forgive me, I only had time to briefly read over the dossier we had on file, you may also join, with or without your human meatsuit plaything. And perhaps we may continue to enjoy this fine bottle and discuss the future as old timers may, these younger vamps and their cohorts never impress me enough as company. Oh and I suppose your human companions may leave with their lives, as I am feeling rather generous tonight at the prospect of gaining two allies. I would gladly trade 3 pawns for a bishop and a knight. The dog can even join us for table scraps if he's house trained..."

"And of course the last option would be... Death. And the mongrel will make for a nice throw rug when I finish the redoing the bar." A smiled curled across his lips, devilish and wily, wit darkly glinting in those crimson merciless eyes. The darkness was ready devouring the bar to the point were it became difficult to make out the clear lines of where something began and ended, and certainly Bedivere has set his empty glass upon the counter as he began to draw his blade from his umbrella. He had finished tasting blood so far, now will Excalibur be the next to drink it?
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@The Grey Dust

I can work in some history for the last two-thousand years.
And a tank? I said it weighed as much as a tiger, dude.

Anyways, I get that it's a real nasty, and like a killer beast folks will want it gone. Thing is, it's a personal enemy. It would pick on one character at a time, making itself their personal nemesis. I won't say kill them, because honestly, it's not as powerful as you think. It can be a real nightmare for someone that has no tactical sense, but with a little elbow grease and the right kind of offence, it can be beaten by a single character.

Case in point, its latest fight in the Arena. Take a gander. I'd say it would have a fair bit of trouble taking on more than one strong vampire at a time.
By the way, this is a good chance to read the book after looking at the cover. I'll include some of its other matches after the one it died in, so you can get a real taste for its actual strength and personality.

http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/92268-nergal-summons-the-magna-pater/ic

Note: The combat roleplays beneath this line aren't for the faint of heart.
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http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/88749-ghosts-in-the-darkness-ruby-vs-shashous-throth/ic

Note how in The Soil of a Man's Heart, I gave Edrik a very good warning of the looming threat so that he could prepare his character for round #2 (which he never showed up for, because you know, us Arena types easily forget about unranked matches when a more important roleplay pops up). He had many days to think up a game plan. I like creating an intense story, an experience. Winning the fight isn't a top priority.

http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/89624-the-soil-of-a-mans-heart-edrik-pedrone-vs-shashous-throth/ic


That's entirely the point. It seems like a character set best in the arena. How would we interact with it outside of the Moby Dick? Outside of being a common enemy, despite picking off enemies one a time (given that reduced power you would submit by lowering the prodigious spawn rate of its minions) it would still be considered a major threat just due to its presence as a "monsterous" vampire, rather than one that blends into the public. And since It doesn't seem to have a political pull, it currently may be treated as a feral vampire since it has no clear distinction its domain of control. I suspect solider would keep tabs on it, although only focus on it should it act out since it would seem to be a rather horrific public terror.

I mean to use the word tank not in the sense of the physical tank, but the metaphysical concept, as in a "bulwark." Sorry for the confusion. That being said it is physically monstrous enough to encourage extermination. Maybe even for sport. That being said, what do you plan to do with the character? Since you have yet to answer this main question posed since there are few logical interactions I can see happening.

As Roman mentioned, this thread is about the fine line of coexistence between the characters and factions. Failure to maintain the brinksmanship would result in total war breaking out and I'm not sure if Wraith wants a complete and total war... Yet. Certainly we'd eventually have the climatic showdown I'm sure but until then most of the thread can build tension with a few skirmishes and interactions here and there until we reach a natural breaking point.

Wraith will throw in some GM opinions. I'm primarily worried about adequate interactions, plot building and reasonable balancing.
@Doc Doctor

And no, it's not just you, I'm this critical with all applications, if you look at my previous posts in deciding if a character is to be accepted or not since I'm tasked to be the impartial judge foe setting the balance of things and keeping the rp semi-realistic with respect to the line of events and structure of immersion.
@The Grey Dust

But the lineage is known. It is its own lineage, which has always been around. I guess the very first Magna Pater was simply hatched from the fires of creation?
If you want the full history, good luck. Waaaay too many events to even begin describing. I gave it a history, a relevant one that's easy to understand. It lives here, it eats here, everything hates it. What more could possibly be needed?

No idea what you mean by "balanced design". I don't recall identifying it as a boss fight. It doesn't play by the rules of other thinking beings. It's a patient killer that bides its time, singling out one victim at a time to personally and intimately antagonise over a long period of time.

I say it has a fair bit more to offer than pointless two-bit romances between pretty faced palies that grew up in fine clothes and in fancy castles.


So you are creating a new vampire line, which of itself requires the origin of the line to be made relatively clearer than it just was, is, and will be. You give me 2k years of history, important events happened in that time period in the world, and unless your proposed cosmic horror is inactive all that time, it should have some sort of history. If not a slice of its origin, will suffice and what it has done all this time up to this point.

It is a giant monstrous beast vampire that's 14 feet long and about the weight of a tank. And this is its normal state of being, Solider will send in the big guns to kill it. hence, though you do not believe it is a boss fight, unless you can integrate it seamlessly into this rp logically, it will become a boss fight since it is the most powerful thing on the board if accepted as is. Hence, regardless of how you intended it, it makes no sense for us to just let it sit and fester.

Ergo, I must ask, since you brought it up, what does it offer the rp? If not the boss fight, how did you intend on playing the character without objectifying it as the common enemy? See the part I don't understand about this character is that there is no room for character growth via character interactions making it rather flat since who wants to interact with something that merely eats things? It has the personality and goals of a singe celled organism. There is no backstory, no higher motivations beyond personal needs, no real reason for it to be considered a non-npc. Unless you can find it one and someone to play along.

I mean I suppose you can go the Moby Dick route, but that's between you and your Ahab.
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Very bad balancing on the powers and abilities.

First it is a phoenix which cannot truly die, therein it seems like a character which cannot be removed by any
means. The only method of death is metadata where the roleplayer no longer continues to rp, at which we cannot quite kill it off.

Second it has an quadrupaling rate of minion generation with any living thing of at least 70 pounds (please stick to either metric or customary, you switched from kilos to pounds, hence from mass to force) which in 2k years, it would have amassed probably more descendants than there are people on earth.

Third, you haven't addressed weaknesses sufficient to balance the creature to the point where it is blatantly OP, hence I assume you wish to play a powerful, world changing vampire, yet offer no backstory and logic as to why it was allowed to live this long if indeed it is the OP threat you make it to be.

Fourth, as much as I love hovercraft as much as the next cultist, I'm against interdimensional cosmic horrors here, unless you want people to start playing as primeval vampire gods that predate this world.

Also, I am familiar with your level of roleplay Gonad, if I'm a bit cautionary it is because the OPness is quite open here and I'm trying to judge maturity levels in usage of powers and abilities, but since you have not given me more than lazy blackboxes, I'm going to have to assume these powers are going to be used indiscriminately through the rp without regard as to how it will impact the larger scale of things.
@Wraithblade6

If every time the Magna Pater rises, it eventually gets put down, how is it that it comes to rise again?: That actually depends on who killed it. The player that kills it can choose a way for the fresh, young replacement to enter the world. Naturally it won't just pop up out of the corpse only to die again, and it certainly won't just teleport somewhere safe to grow strong and experienced once more. It's something to be worked out, for the sake of fairness.

Why is it so difficult to kill?: It's difficult to kill permanently, yes, but keep in mind that the new Alpha would be far weaker than the original. It would be smaller, entirely inexperienced, and far, far less ferocious. One could capture it and lock it up for good, without much trouble if they were strong enough to beat the previous Alpha.

Where did it come from?: It's always been. Whatever's beyond that, is a mystery.

What are it's origins?: Mystery again. It's been places, certainly, but its deep past is unknown and unknowable. It's a primeval vampire, a pure monster in and of itself.

Does it have a cult following?: Not a chance. Not even the most extreme cultists would try to worship this bad boy.

Certainly older vampires would know about it and have documented history on it: It's a dread horror.

*GOTTA SWITCH COMPUTERS SUDDENLY, RESERVED FOR LATER*


No.

You must have a clear origin of being. A Blackbox is highly inappropriate here. The backstory is important here since it creates a sense of history of the vampire in a global setting. That being said you have a monstrosity that hasn't been killed in 2k years by any of the elders who are far older than it, save for perhaps Dracula who died early. Without a known lineage, or balanced design, this is simply a one shot boss fight that offers little as a character and more as an npc encounter.

In other news, I shall most likely do my cogm duties post tomorrow evening after another round of tension in the bar.
@DiZL ReloadeD
"Hahaha, fine i wont call you 'Alli' again. Now, Plan B. well, we need the Commanders approval to start Plan B, But I can tell you exactly what we are gonna do." she turned and made a signal to beckon Ashley over. "Ok heres Plan B. As soon as we get Confirmation from Mithias, i will make my way over to the door. The Bouncers, most likely, will stop me so at that point i will say into the mic. 'Bite me' at this point ill draw my pistol and fire into one of them, Allison, you'll be behind me and you will take out the second guy. Roman and Ash will take out the barman and any other people who pull guns on us, while Mithias will make his way across the street to a car which Sonja will be in the passenger seat with her LMG poking out the window to take out anyone who chases us out. we all get in the car and hightail it out of here." she took a moment to breath and finish her drink "Any Objections? no ok." she got out her phone and sent a message to Mithias. Covers Blown. Barman and the Bouncers know who we are. Send Confirmation for Plan B. Mithias' phone will have buzzed in his pocket at this point.


I do believe I mentioned there to be NO Bouncers at the club. Hence I suppose Kat's merely DELUDING and assuming there are in fact Bouncers.

Because... "Humans have Bouncers, Vampires have Executioners. Hence, Vampires know when to leave."
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