Rare said
He doesn't have to listen to you, you aren't the GM.^^

No I'm not the GM. If I was I would have told him to delete it. Instead I respectfully asked him to take it down. Rare I don't know what your problem is with common decency. Treat people how you would like to be treated.

Pasta Sentient said
No I'm not the GM. If I was I would have told him to delete it. Instead I respectfully asked him to take it down. Rare I don't know what your problem is with common decency. Treat people how you would like to be treated.

Here is something for you and you should do that the sign says.

@Pepperm1nts, although the level of negotiations may be unrealistic, my decision to draft slaves as soldiers was in large part a response to the extreme international pressure being put on me to end the practice of slavery. I know you have not been privy to these talks, but to me it seemed like a roughly realistic thing to do, though I shall certainly have fun with the I'll effects it will likely bring, I am certainly to take my circumstance and run with it in an attempt to win, although I know I can't possibly win I'm the long run (it's looking like I'll last longer than in RL, but not forever).

So that's my defense

Pepperm1nts said Just my two cents.

I look at it this way. If Outcast lets it happen, I don't really care. It's his game, his rules. If somebody wants to contest something with him, I imagine they would do what any roleplayer would when they disagree with the GM and contact him in private about it. If Outcast changes it, cool. If he doesn't, it's just as good. It's perfectly acceptable, if not preferable in most cases to voice (constructive) criticism and try to make sure that the game stays at least somewhat realistic. The problem is when people start name-calling, rehashing old news, and causing trouble for the sake of causing trouble. Not only is it disruptive but it's also frustrating. If I post something, I'm totally cool with people telling me that they disagree with what I did or how I did it. However, it's an entirely different story when somebody throws a bitch fit because they don't like the way something is done.

A little civility goes a long way, and I don't know why some people think that they're too good to be nice to somebody. Which is where almost all of these arguments start, somebody starts getting condescending, drawing in people to argue for or against a particular thing.

Pasta Sentient said
Only popping up to state that no one should respond to Peppermint!s statement as it will only ignite more conflict as this time. This issue is over with.

Potentially, but it is what it is.

Rare said
He doesn't have to listen to you, you aren't the GM.^^

No, but he was trying to stop an argument before it broke out. I give him credit for that.

Rare said
Here is something for you and you should do that the sign says.

....you are really trying to go there? I don't understand why you are being so antagonistic towards me. I have done nothing against you in anyway. I was just trying to stop another argument from occurring.

AegonVI said
@Pepperm1nts, although the level of negotiations may be unrealistic, my decision to draft slaves as soldiers was in large part a response to the extreme international pressure being put on me to end the practice of slavery. I know you have not been privy to these talks, but to me it seemed like a roughly realistic thing to do, though I shall certainly have fun with the I'll effects it will likely bring, I am certainly to take my circumstance and run with it in an attempt to win, although I know I can't possibly win I'm the long run (it's looking like I'll last longer than in RL, but not forever).So that's my defense

True. Basically everyone who had supported you in the beginning has now renounced you due to slavery.

@Pasta: To be honest, I don't think I said anything that should incite further argument. If it does, that's on whoever feels the need to escalate it. All I did was state my opinion, respectfully. I do think some things have to be said (without being an ass about it). Otherwise what you get is a bunch of people covering their ears whenever someone tells them they've done something wrong, and then nothing ever gets amended.

What do you people don't get about "STOP, IN THE NAME OF LOVE!" lol

Anyways, to everyone, if you don't want an argument to break out, just don't respond back. Don't feed the troll (although I am only using this as a rhetorical idea, I don't think anyone is really trolling, so don't be offended).

@pepper, what you said wasn't a problem. It is the timing and location. I am all for discussion, but in this thread that becomes an argument very quickly. It's a matter of tactful ness.

Anyway I propose that from now on if anyone has a problem/negative statement about decisions made ICly they keep it out of this thread and take it privately to Outcast or remain silent.

Pasta Sentient said
....you are really trying to go there? I don't understand why you are being so antagonistic towards me. I have done nothing against you in anyway. I was just trying to stop another argument from occurring.

Well, you trying to start the debate up again and it worked. If you want, I could give it to you in a cupcake form.

@Rare, you aren't the GM. I don't have to listen to you. If you asked me kindly though I might agree to it.

Pasta Sentient said
@Rare, you aren't the GM. I don't have to listen to you. If you asked me kindly though I might agree to it.

Fine. Can you eat the cupcake stop sign and shut up be quite, please? :)

Rare said
Fine. Can you eat the cupcake stop sign and be quite, please? :)

Even though that is obvious sarcasm I'll agree to it. I just ask that you do the same.

Everyone here Remember Rule 1. Be civilized.

I thought rule one was not to talk about Fight Club?

Ampharos said
I thought rule one was not to talk about Fight Club?

No, that was the other Rule 1.

Ampharos said
I thought rule one was not to talk about Fight Club?

No, the rule one was: No meme wars.

Ampharos said
I thought rule one was not to talk about Fight Club?

SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP

DONT TALK ABOUT IT(;

Rare said
No, the rule one was: No meme wars.

It's a good thing I made a pop culture reference then.

All of you shut up and let me deal with this.

1) I do not know every detail of history, and the same is true for many people in this RP. Others have a better knowledge, and that is good, but you are going to have to accept that others don't.
2) The realism issue is a tough one. When I said I wanted realism, what I was referring to was techology and, to a lesser extent, tactics. But decisions to give away or invade land are rather more difficult to deal with, and that is something I will be taking on a case-by-case basis. Alliances I will, for the most part, not be restricting. You want to ally yourself with your arch-nemesis? Go ahead. Read the introduction - it says you take the reigns of a nation. You are the leader, and if historically your nation had cold relations with a nation, but you want to be warm and friendly with them, then that is your right.
3) Shut up about Queen Victoria. Pasta made few dumb decisions that snowballed, and we tried to get him out. That has been dealt with. Move on. Perhaps it wasn't very realistic, but it was the best way I could think of for getting past it. It was something, I might add, that happened in one of Fry's WiRs on the ParadoxPlaza forums as well.
4) This is my first time GMing a WiR, so of course I will be making mistakes. But you guys constantly fighting and arguing with each other is really not helping. If you have a legitimate concern, take it up with me in a pm, don't just vent about it here.
5) If you really don't like the way this is being run, I would like to remind you that I do have an ever-growing waiting list, and you are always free to leave.

Now stop this fucking feud already.