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Umm... On a different note, is there a TL;DR on the Treaty of Rio de Janeiro. If not that's cool. I'll probably have time to read it all today anywho.

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AegonVI said
Umm... On a different note, is there a TL;DR on the Treaty of Rio de Janeiro.

"South America is ours. Attack us, and we fuck you backwards. You can keep your colonies though. Oh, and any South American nation is free to join our club."
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It's a mutual protection treaty, basically. It states that, if a country from outside South America attacks them, they are obligated to help each other against it. But it draws the distinction that this only applies to foreign (as in, from outside of South America) aggressors.

In addition, it's a general agreement to assist one another and help each other grow and prosper.

Then they're like "If you are South American, you can join.", and state that they will hold biannual meetings.

In short, it's like a South American NATO, but with a slight economical aspect to it.
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Oh! Gotcha. Seems legit.
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You know you've done something right when people are able to summarize your long rambling treaties.
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Pepperm1nts said In short, it's like a South American NATO


SATO, South American Treaty Organization.
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In some Spanish-speaking countries, 'sato' is slang for 'street dog', or dogs that are either dirty or of no particular breed.
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In some Spanish-speaking countries, 'sato' is slang for 'street dog', or dogs that are either dirty or of no particular breed.


That just makes the name even more perfect.
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DAS RACISS
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DAS RACISS


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Catching up with everything as a reader I love it except that Belgium died. I am reluctant to believe that there'd be as much public support for the Dutch conquerors as currently displayed, but that might just be me. Also, what happened to everyone guaranteeing our independence? ;___;

Looking forward for more.
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@Roran Hawkins, Don't worry! Belgium will be restored after we kick the Coalitiion's Ass! :D
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Catching up with everything as a reader I love it except that Belgium died. I am reluctant to believe that there'd be as much public support for the Dutch conquerors as currently displayed, but that might just be me. Also, what happened to everyone guaranteeing our independence? ;___;Looking forward for more.


Are you Belgian?
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Catching up with everything as a reader I love it except that Belgium died. I am reluctant to believe that there'd be as much public support for the Dutch conquerors as currently displayed, but that might just be me. Also, what happened to everyone guaranteeing our independence? ;___;Looking forward for more.


Belgium hasn't been alive very long to begin with, as it's only 1864. There are Flemish independence movements to this day, so I don't think it's unreasonable for many of the people of Flanders to support Dutch reunification in this time period.
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Go!Go! Mexico!
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The attempted two pronged attack by the Russians was quickly bogged down, as the Austrians held the high ground and cut down the Russians. Russian commanders ordered their men to keep pushing, but it came to no avail and as night fell, they were forced to call off the assault.


How many Austrians were there?
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In some Spanish-speaking countries, 'sato' is slang for 'street dog', or dogs that are either dirty or of no particular breed.


And if you managed to somehow add MA to the acronym, it'd spell Masato. Which is a Colombian traditional alcoholic beverage.
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And if you managed to somehow add MA to the acronym, it'd spell Masato. Which is a Colombian traditional alcoholic beverage.


Most Awesome South American Treaty Organization?
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Belgium hasn't been alive very long to begin with, as it's only 1864. There are Flemish independence movements to this day, so I don't think it's unreasonable for many of the people of Flanders to support Dutch reunification in this time period.


Yes I'm from Belgium and no I'm not complaining, but I'm just giving my input, don't worry ;)

Afaik at that time the poorer folks spoke mostly Dutch and might welcome rejoining the Dutch, but especially the French-speaking elite who owned and controlled much of the Belgian industrial landscape will resist heavily against Dutch rule. As shown before their protests/rebellion had incited the entire populance to rebel against the Dutch, and I think that just because of their relatively short-lived independance a quasi-seamless reconquest will go unopposed.

I understand that the Dutch intend to restore the 'Industrial South, Trading North' program of before the Belgian Independance, but I don't think that that will have much succes unless you force the French-speaking elite out of their rich positions, which will undoubtedly create a lot of bad blood in other bourgeosie elites in all of Europe.

Unless ofcourse I'm not getting the point of what the Dutch are doing atm.
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You'll realize pretty quick that this isn't the most historically accurate roleplay around :P

I would personally like to see more people willingly putting themselves in bad, but realistic positions though. I feel a lot of people are just trying to climb the ladder to greatness, one-upping each other and generally just trying to become more powerful. And don't get me wrong; that's fine. It's only normal to want to make something great out of your nation. I'd be doing the same if I were currently playing (damn the wait!). But I do think that, every now and then, you should give yourself some setbacks for the sake of realism, and making an interesting story come out of all this. If you think an action should have some backlash, give yourself some damn backlash :P

Assuming players are allowed to shoot themselves in the foot, that is. If they are, then do it once in a while. Don't just wait on Outcast to give you something to deal with. I feel that, as GM, Outcast probably lets a lot slide for the sake of giving players freedom and not seeming like a dick-tator GM that's constantly shooting people down. I know from what little experience I have GMing, that sometimes you have to let things slide (even when they don't make complete sense), otherwise you're constantly calling people out and that makes you come off like a real oppressive douche, and no one wants to play in an oppressive douche's roleplay.
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