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So, anyone checked out my slightly revised CS a bit? I added a more concrete time for his reign of terror, and explained the popularity of his story, and even how the church likes to use it to teach children why relics are bad.
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Maki Casanova said
Closest thing s priest you could have could be from the Order of idris.


Perhaps there is room for a supra-national but infantile organization that promotes the worship of the Old Kingdom who are beginning to hoard relics in response to the Order of Idris, stemming from the Empire of Kalesia? The new order could emphasize worship of the ones who ruled/lived in the Old Kingdom over the relics, holding them as gods?

They would have small areas of influence in Northern Othea, where the local lords have been swayed by their missionaries (or the promised taxes), who have since been permitted to set up little, occasional churches.
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Perhaps there is room for a supra-national but infantile organization that promotes the worship of the Old Kingdom who are beginning to hoard relics in response to the Order of Idris, stemming from the Empire of Kalesia? The new order could emphasize worship of the ones who ruled/lived in the Old Kingdom over the relics, holding them as gods?They would have small areas of influence in Northern Othea, where the local lords have been swayed by their missionaries (or the promised taxes), who have since been permitted to set up little, occasional churches.


I doubt there'd be room for you to get into Othea and I think Ellri is trying to limit the creation of large groups. The Order of Shadows itself is only 200 strong.
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Name: Dogfael Ua Nèill
Age: 54
Gender: Male
Faction/Allegiance:

De jure:

- Order of Light: A new organization some suspect may have ties to the Empire of Kalesia that preaches of the godhood of the rulers of the Old Kingdom. It has only small areas of influence in northern Othea at the moment, with the local lords mostly permitting their stay because of the little boost to tax income their churches bring.

They are hoarding artifacts in the name of their Gods. In order to do this, they send small teams of priests or seminaries scavenging around ruins.


- The Kingdom of Othea.

De facto:

- Himself.

Relic Description:

Dogfael’s relic is an ancient mace beautifully decorated by arabesque patterns engraved upon its surface. Sprouting from the head are six flanges that sport differing images of mythical beasts on their sides save for one, namely: a dragon, a wyvern, a manticore, a unicorn, a centaur, a satyr, a daemon, a succubus, a harpy, a medusa, and a wendigo; opposite of the dragon’s side of its flange is instead the image of a king seated on his throne.

The relic, which Dogfael has affectionately named “Might”, lives up to its namesake as it has nullified the effects of old age once plaguing him and has in their stead returned the strength of youth to him, in addition to an extra boon of considerable strength, totalling up to physical power more fitting to a knightly champion than an old man like him. His mind has also apparently been healed, as his thoughts are far sharper and clearer than what they once were even during his youth. Then again, he was a terrible drunkard when he was young.

To his delight, his loins have also been reinvigorated.

Only having had the relic for but half a month, he is still not sure what else it does, but every morning, he wakes up with uncharacteristic energy belied by his thin, frail-looking arms and wrinkling skin. He hopes it will make him look younger as time passes by, perhaps even granting him immortality.

Appearance:


”This artifact will make me look much younger in a few years, just you wait!”


Age has truly taken a toll on Dogfael’s appearance. A balding head with wispy white locks of what used to be a respectable bush of short, brown hair sits atop a thin neck of dry, leather-like skin. Eyes possessed of what seems to be a perpetual look of mild annoyance, once bright blue, are quite less so now, and stare judgmentally at innocent passers-by, and with shameless intent at any youthful girls around if he can get away with it. The rest of his body duly expresses the effects of old age.

He wears clerical robes colored a simple brown, secured to his person with a belt of hempen rope. As a priest, a miniature cross is always on his person, and an even tinier one hangs pendant from his neck on a string.

Flaws:

Other than making him feel young again, making him substantially stronger and his mind a bit sharper, there doesn’t seem to be that much else to the artifact. Then again, two weeks is just a short time. Perhaps there are more boons in the future?

Skills:

Tongue of Silver, Word of the Gods: Dogfael’s background and education allows him to speak very convincingly and eloquently. Of course, this is a necessity if one is to preach to the masses.

Literate: Dogfael can read and write. A most essential skill.

Personality:

“I know that it should be time for the choir to sing of the Seven Heavenly Virtues, but my fellows, wouldn’t a song about the virtues of wine be a more enjoyable thing? Hahahaha! I’m serious, though. Hahaha! Just kidding.”

Dogfael is a hedonist true and proud. Jovial and gluttonous (though blessed with such a metabolism that he does not gain much weight), he finds it hard not to crack a good joke at somebody else’s expense, finds it even harder to resist the temptations of the horn and the tankard, and almost impossible to endure even the passive eroticism of the female form. It should come to no surprise, then, that he spends a great deal of coin to drink and to experience the active eroticism of the female form in hypnotic motion.

Afflicted by the deadly sins of gluttony and lust, he makes no effort to become more temperate. Some say duty or family or love or -- for the more stupid of people -- dying in battle is the greatest thing on earth, but really, primal pleasure, pure and unadulterated, whether from the tankard or from the loins, is what men were born for.

His bonding of the artifact has further brought out his sociopathic side, as he killed the three seminaries with a only a little bit of regret, and that's not even because he ended their lives, but that they had refused to join him. At this point in time, he has no clear goal in mind with his restored physical power, nor does he have any idea of what to do for when the bishop discovers that he's betrayed the Order, but he will put those worries off for tomorrow. Tonight, he drinks!

Relations:

Does your character have any sort of relationship/relations with any of the others? Friendship? family? Sworn enemy? worked together? etc.

None.

Theme Song: In the Tavern, be it the King or the Pope, we all drink without a care.
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@Sillygoy I'm very sorry but as being both one of the GMs and the one who's currently in charge of The Holy Order of Idris, I have to give you some major points of critique;

1. The Order of Idris is currently close to omnipotence in Othea, seeing how they control the current king as though he was a puppet and they are currently expanding even further. It would be possible for a really small group of dissidents to have recently formed, but not a group who has been around for more than 50 years and gained as much influence as you describe them to have. Seeing their current power and the nature of their organization, The Holy Order would have stomped out any dissidents long ago, as soon as they appear to form a threat or disobey the Holy Order.

2. Moreover, we're really trying to make this into a fantasy world. The Holy Order is not a Christian organization whatsoever, despite their practices that might at first seem similar to the Medieval Church. Due to this, they have no church, no cross as a holy symbol (this especially would make no sense at all, seeing how the cross didn't play a role in the history of the Holy Order, unless we say that Idris the Messenger was crucified... which I'd like to avoid really xD) no nuns (seeing how women are just cattle in their eyes), and no bishops. They have inquisitors, preachers and a Holy Council (who pull the king's strings). How exactly the Order works hasn't been decided, but I really want to steer away from Christianity, or any other major religions on earth for that matter. I can understand that you want the Order of Light to be different from the Holy Order, which is a good thing in itself, but please do understand that it won't be able to flourish as long as The Holy Order of Idris holds the power in Othea.

3. A minor point, at one part you state that he only had the relic for half a year and then you say it has been two weeks. It would be nice to have just one of them for the sake of clarity ^_^

To me, those are the main points of concern, excuses for being so harsh (Idris is turning into my little baby lol) :') I'm sure Ellri and Bark will come up with other comments on Dogfael, though I must say that I like the general concept of a hedonist priest.
@Freeshooter I took a look at it and I personally think that he's accepted. If my fellow GMs agree with that, you can post him into the character thread.
@Maki Looking good, we do have to find something to connect Marcus and Kaiden this time around xD Two minor points, it would be nice if you fill in his age and if you think of a reason for Kaiden to be in Othea. Just stating that the band of bandits has moved its working territory to Othea and Kaiden is checking out the city is good enough for me (though knowing Ellri, I'm not sure if you'll get away with that lol), as long as you give a reason.
@Sep While Ellri is the specialist concerning CS's, I'd like to give a two minor comments on Malich.
1. I think you'll need to edit the "Recently dubbed Lord Umbra" part out of your history ;p
2. Just out of curiosity, is there something powering his relic or does it only have to draw from the shadows?
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Well whatever powers the relic is the same thing as whatever powers the other relics. There will be a range hting ot which shadows he can draw and what his extensive range his. Of course his range over physical shadows is lesser than that of illusionary.

Also I thought it was a nice tidbit weakness that he can't manipulate his own shadow.
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Hey, just wondering how would foreign sailors and traders be tolerated in countries in Azukhar? Y'know, the whole 'division and distrust' thing.
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Well whatever powers the relic is the same thing as whatever powers the other relics. There will be a range hting ot which shadows he can draw and what his extensive range his. Of course his range over physical shadows is lesser than that of illusionary. Also I thought it was a nice tidbit weakness that he can't manipulate his own shadow.


Agreed, that's Shin's speciality :p Lol, seriously though, it's indeed a nice touch.
But well, what I meaning to say was; does he have to sacrifice something in order to let the relic work? For example, his stamina, some blood, the life of others or something like that.

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Hey, just wondering how would foreign sailors and traders be tolerated in countries in Azukhar? Y'know, the whole 'division and distrust' thing.

That differs greatly per country. Some, like the Harrans, welcome them with open arms, while others like Da-Hyun welcome the money they bring but stand rather distrusting to the foreigners themselves (seeing how they can be potential threads or spies). If you're wondering about a specific country, you should ask the one in charge over it :) (I'm all about Harra, Da-Hyun and Idris at the moment, Kalesia is Ellri's and Bark is in charge of Oragos and Othea, though that can change over time.)
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Agreed, that's Shin's speciality :p Lol, seriously though, it's indeed a nice touch.But well, what I meaning to say was; does he have to sacrifice something in order to let the relic work? For example, his stamina, some blood, the life of others or something like that.


Oh no he's not that kinda fancy relic user like Kheris was. The main thing is it will take a lot of concentration to make it work. Especially solidifying them, distractions are to be avoided.
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Oh no he's not that kinda fancy relic user like Kheris was. The main thing is it will take a lot of concentration to make it work. Especially solidifying them, distractions are to be avoided.


Okay then, good to know ^_^
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@AlidaMaria

I will revise Dogfael's history so that he is one of the priests (or preacher or crier, if they have no such people) of a localized Order heresy.
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@AlidaMariaI will revise Dogfael's history so that he is one of the priests (or preacher or crier, if they have no such people) of a localized Order heresy.


Thank you, that would work! I'm really sorry for rejecting your idea just like that :(
He could have been part of the Othean branch of The Holy Order in his youth, but either be kicked out or leave due to their different ideas concerning "discipline" and "excessive drinking" and then started or joined a heresy group. (I suppose that this is what you meant to do as well, but I just wanted to point it out to you in case you didn't. ^_^)
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First of all, sorry if we miss anything, our connection is lacking, so we can't read everything and be sure not to miss something on limited time.

The religion of the kalesian empire is defined as something other than worshipping the old kingdom. It's a simple fertility religion, where willing acts of attempted procreation equals worship. They might want to unify all of Azukhar, but they don't want to reincarnate the old kingdom.

Maki: anything on your CS radically changed from relics v1?

SillyGoy: maybe he joined the Kalnachian branch of the order of Idris?
There might be a small movement that recently arose in Othea of the faith of kalesia. But they're few in number and all fairly young.

We'll save commentary on dogfael till you fix the stuff alida mentioned.
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This is POOP
I didn't realize it started up already :<

Time to revise Myth.
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Other than hating the old kingdom, what is the Order of Idris all about? Like what's their doctrine and why do they hate the old kingdom?
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Also, thought I pop in and tell you all I'm still around. Namely working on a CS which to be honest, detailed as hell and working together with Echo to help smooth my understand of the world so he can vouch I'm not putting it off...much. Hence why it's taking so long. I've got some interesting twists and fun in it too. Also, Ellri, I might have you tear it up in a Doc before I post it in the OOC namely cause it's easier to adapt it that way rather then quote farm problems.
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We'll see what we can do, Fallen. Depends on how good net access we have, which at home is zero right now. Fortunately, we're not limited to accessing it from there.

The order of Idris is very much focused on destroying relics and their users. There's also some elements of good old medieval gender imbalance. Women aren't much more than property according to them. In turn, in the kalesian empire, women have equal rights, and the religion of the Empire give them better choices in life.

Bingthewing: in the Dominion of Idris, there are just a few ports where foreigners are permitted at all. There are similarly a few trade towns on the land borders where foreigners are permitted. Other places in the Dominion are closed to outsiders. Only high-ranking members of the order are permitted in certain regions within the Dominion.
In Kalnach, ports and borders are open. Of course, the inquisitors have some private locations, much like the order has in the Dominion.
In kalesia, borders are open, but most outsiders don't go far into the Empire because they rarely need to. They are permitted to do so, though. Some few locations are off-limits, but they are generally far from most anything.
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I am the Black Wizards said
Other than hating the old kingdom, what is the Order of Idris all about? Like what's their doctrine and why do they hate the old kingdom?


I recommend the lore section on The Dominion of Idris. There I have explained why they hate the old Kingdom. Their primary focus is destroying all relics and their users, since they belief that will recreate the equality amongst humans and prevent an enormous amount of suffering. As Ellri said, they have a slightly odd sense of "equality", since women are barely worth a thing to them, though they do try to ban the slavery that's abundant on the western side of Azukhar (mainly in Oragos, Harra and Da-Hyun).

We haven't really decided how exactly their power hierarchy will function, but I want it to be different from Roman Catolicism no matter what (seeing how their inquisitors already resemble that faith slightly). So if you have any suggestions, feel free to pm me, another GM or just throw it up here ^_^
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I think I can hop onto my computer for a short time and put up what I have now, think that will work?
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I may look into this later.
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