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Hidden 10 yrs ago Post by Sage
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Yugeto said
Posting after Skai. Can we get a new topic for sign ups or something going so we get some fresh faces?


Yeah once we break out
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someone post. Kish, post as Julian and the rest of squad 2 besides Skai's character.
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posted!!!!
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What timezones is everyone in again?
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+10:00, Australia

Sage, don't forget to give Zachary a briefing too.
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East Coast of U.S. GMT -5
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Beast Cost, +4:20
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BEASTCOAST, SAY IT LOUD AND PROUD

est yo New York time yo.
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I might be +11 GMT. It keeps changing with daylight savings and I can never remember which is which.

Here's a handy tool: xkcd.com/now
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http://24timezones.com/ is good too
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This is all very exciting and a wonderful read, but I will point out that in real life throwing knives are the most impractical weapons there are. Even an expert can not simply walk into a room and hit a target on the first go. The act of successfully embedding the throwing knife into a target is an extremely precise one, with even the tiniest variations producing a failed outcome, and such precision can only be obtained through fine tuning via trial and error (practise shortens this, but doesn't remove it). If you or your target is moving (or worse yet, both), or if you need to hit first time, then you've got no hope.

Of course, that never stops Hollywood. Throwing knives have an air of mystique, excitement and danger. I'm just putting forwards how it is in real life.


Also, since everybody's heading over to Hector, I presume that people will arrive and Hector will give a briefing/rousing speech before we post anything more ourselves?
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I understand. Its not like she was really aiming precisely for his shoulder, though.
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The matter isn't hitting your target, it's having the rotation of the knife timed so that the pointy end stabs into your target. If it isn't oriented correctly, it simply bounces off and you'd probably have been better off throwing stones.

I'm not asking for anything to be changed. I'm just putting it out there for future consideration. Fiction has a habit of ignoring inconvenient truths like this, and that is quite reasonable.
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I see what you're getting at. I meant that it was manipulated to stay with the pointy end towards him when I wrote it, like a spear.
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Oh, I'm not concerned about Arrianna. She's telekinetic, I know she can do that. I was pointing more at Zerox and Ghost, who used throwing knives as part of their standard kit. They're dead now, though, so we don't have to worry about them any more.
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BBeast said
Oh, I'm not concerned about Arrianna. She's telekinetic, I know she can do that. I was pointing more at Zerox and Ghost, who used throwing knives as part of their standard kit. They're dead now, though, so we don't have to worry about them any more.


Well first off, I should remind everyone that Ghost, Zerox, and the rest of the Hunters were already battle hardened military officials. They were hand picked by the military's leaders to be given Kages because they were the most trustworthy soldiers in terms of combat expertise and utility. So it you can assume Zerox and Ghost know how to throw a throwing knife.

Second, the throwing knives pictured weren't meant to be thought of as spinning knives. Instead, their paths were to be compared to those of darts, spears, or like kunai from Naruto.
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"Kunai from Naruto"

You do know that kunai were knives used by REAL ninja as mostly digging and prying tools and hand-to-hand combat weapons, not as throwing weapons. Throwing a knife like that with any effectiveness would be significantly more difficult that throwing the way BBeast is concerned about. When throwing a blade with a spin, it's much easier to cut into the target.
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The Red Zephyr said
"Kunai from Naruto"You do know that kunai were knives used by REAL ninja as mostly digging and prying tools and hand-to-hand combat weapons, not as throwing weapons. Throwing a knife like that with any effectiveness would be significantly more difficult that throwing the way BBeast is concerned about. When throwing a blade with a spin, it's much easier to cut into the target.


I didn't really intend to discuss the purpose of kunai knives. The point is, in Naruto, they throw kunai in a unique pattern; regardless of whether or not that is the proper way to use a kunai, THAT'S how Zerox and Ghost were throwing them. And I really disagree - I would assume a straight, head on impact with an ice-pick-shaped knife would pierce much farther than the same knife thrown the spinny way.
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It just bugged me that you associated throwing knives with kunai used incorrectly in an anime/manga rather than a more realistic equivalent when you were trying argue the realism of characters' actions. Grab a knife in your house and throw it at a tree or something Naruto style, then try throwing it by holding the blade and throwing from the shoulder with a spin. That is all.
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Throwing a knife like a dart in real life would most likely have it tumble in mid air and be useless. You could make it more aerodynamic, add fins and such, but then what you have is a dart. And as I said before, even a trained throwing knife expert can not simply walk into a room and successfully hit a target on the first go with any degree of reliability.

But, this isn't real life, so we can get away with a little bit of Hollywood physics.

[[I'd put a witty GIF here pertaining to Hollywood physics, but I'm not sure where to find one, so you'll just have to use your imaginations]]
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