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And now I think your character is overpowered, and in need of a great deal of power-blocking.

At the age of 19, a master in lightning and magnetic fields and in the art of the sword goes to a school to learn how to be an adventurer. I think not. To become a 'master' in a SINGLE area, you'd have to train for years and year and years, not just train from when you're perhaps ten or twelve, and then by age 19, you master pretty much everything you need.

Come on. A teenager being a master at swordsmanship and a very extensive variety of magical tricks?

You fight Andrej, your St Elmo's fire will dissipate once it nears him. He'll throw a throwing axe, and you'll just try to deflect it with lightning or some other impossible thing. The throwing axe, enchanted to not be affected by magic, will then impact your head, and you're dead.

Converting oneself into an energy form and then reforming somewhere else isn't a novice skill. Hell, I hadn't even heard of anyone else doing it, honestly. And there is a difference between have control over something, and being able to turn themselves into it.

Teenagers are not masters at anything unless they are a literal and bona-fide prodigy, which I read not, and even then, a prodigy simply has a great deal of raw potential and a great deal of natural skill, not instant mastery.

I didn't look over the applications at first- just went through to match name and appearance. But now that I read them, then, well, this roleplay is a bit less appetizing with that kind of character. Really young, really powerful, really smart.

Mastery of less tricky things such as fire, or water, are much easier. But energy, and therefore lightning, is far harder, because it's there for a moment, and gone the next, every time. It's spontaneous, it's tricky, it'll slip between your fingers without the perfect concentration, and you can do all this so easily you're not even thinking about it... and your character is nineteen.

I love magic and all that fantasy stuff, and I can understand powerful characters, but I AM a realist- I will NEVER be a really powerful mage without giving the character pre-roleplay time to actually master it. It's not fair, it's not reasonable. If that's how even one of the characters will be, then I would like to withdraw my application right now. I'm in roleplays for a real story- not to use be like Master Chief-strength ten year old in a field of Unggoy, I think they're called.

/end very minor rant of me not liking OP/PG
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I really don't want a debate. Honestly I have no problem with characters being a master of one or two skills (I expect an explanation of how they acquired their skills at some point) I don't mind them being capable of a long list of magics (within reason) I do agree that as a teenager you cant master too many skills no matter when you start training. There are some skills you can't even begin to learn until a certain age. Eddi you have to be careful. I do think you have overpowered him abit for 19.
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Firstly; To explain his seemingly total mastery of lighting; He has no other magical skills, Its lightning or nothing, He grew up in a household where demonic blood was the norm, so he grew up surounded by latent magic. He was the only one to manifest it so he was outcast, which means that he spent most of his time ostricised and thus doing the only thing he enjoyed, swordfighting and magic. He found he had a talent for lightning, so eschewed all others for that. Also, he's a Tiefling, so he allready has a good amount of latent power. Considering that he is the only true Non-human (with the exception of the weird resurrected guy). you'd expect him to be strong. Also, he's still young, if you notice he uses his powers with relative abandon and utter disregard for what they actually are. its doubtful he actually has any skill, rather just he has a immense range of random things he came up with, Also if you notice all the skills I mentioned are offencive, that's because magic wise his defences are rather low, The closest he's got is using St elmo's fire to deflect or absorb, and even then its rather hit and miss.
Lets not go in to OP, Your char seems to (as you have stated) be able to beat anyone, also while he is a magic user you also implied he can nullify any magic at will. along with the fact 'enchanter' is a very open ended speciality. ranging from 'enchanting' objects to hold magical power, to using magical power to manipulate the world around them. And thats not to mention the fact he's basicly a ranger, (close, and long range combat, with magic on top) which means he probably is able to dual weild weapons. The list goes on.

Please avoid threatening to kill other PC's Its rather childish. if you wish to do that I can play that game to; St elmo's fire disapates? Railgun, nothing left but a pair of smoking boots. Unavoidable, insta kill from throwing axe range! See! I can threaten to kill poeple to! lets all act like spoiled brats. that'll make this RP so much better. Honest it will. people bitching and bawling like 4 year olds always fixes things!

Likelyhood of Alexander and Alej getting in a fight; 20%, since Alexander is more likely just to laugh at Alej and tell him to find something better to do than criticize others.
Likelyhood of the fight turning lethal; 10% Alexander, being young, is very capacious, so is most likely just to dance round Alej and piss him off.
Likelyhood of either of them winning; 1% Alexander, again is more likely to go "fuck I'm board" and just phase step out of there. probably leaving a eye of the storm behind as a joke.
So is there even a real reason to argue this?

He's a Op char given the right personality, IE a destructive agressive one, or a vain proud one. But he dosn't have that, He's light hearted, capricious, chaotic and generally the sort who's "who gives a dam?" to most things, He's that kid in class with the amazing brain, but just can't be asked to do any of the questions. Ya know? the kid who never turns up but seems to do well in all the tests. You ever heard the term Virtuoso? Yeah, that's a good one to describe him, a Lazy Virtuoso.
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Your char seems to (as you have stated) be able to beat anyone, also while he is a magic user you also implied he can nullify any magic at will. along with the fact 'enchanter' is a very open ended speciality. ranging from 'enchanting' objects to hold magical power, to using magical power to manipulate the world around them. The list goes on. Please avoid threatening to kill other PC's Its rather childish.

First Eddi I wasn't to say I don't have a problem with your character. We've RPed together that I'm familiar with your style. As long as he has limits I'm good. Second I totally agree. There's no reason to kill each other. While there will be fight I don't approve of random violence. It always ends badly. Third thank you for reminding about the whole nullifing thing. I meant to ask about that but with all the holiday stuff I forgot .I dislike characters that can control others that way. I would need more information before approving something like that
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~points to the GM's post on the subject~ I will say no more.
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Eddi tends to have characters that are bigger than life but I have never seen him take advantage of that. I admit I allow him more leeway then I would someone I didn't know. I will say that I'm sorry you feel you can't join us because you disagree with his one character is played. You have a valid point about his personality not matching his background. But I'm sure there is a reason for that.
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Eddi tends to have characters that are bigger than life but I have never seen him take advantage of that. I admit I allow him more leeway then I would someone I didn't know. I will say that I'm sorry you feel you can't join us because you disagree with his one character is played. You have a valid point about his personality not matching his background. But I'm sure there is a reason for that.


the reason; Being ostriciesd by your family does not automatically make you a grouchy emo, no matter what modern sit-coms would have you believe, Also, Alexander, like some other mages, embodies his element in more ways than one, Not only is he very to-and-fro on things, but he's also seemingly boundless with energy, and rather bad at concentrating on one thing for long periods of time. Also, due to the fact when he was ostricised from his family he didn't see it as a bad thing and didn't miss them that much he wasn't negetivly impacted on him. The reasoning goes on. but I hope this clears things up.
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Eddi tends to have characters that are bigger than life but I have never seen him take advantage of that. I admit I allow him more leeway then I would someone I didn't know. I will say that I'm sorry you feel you can't join us because you disagree with his one character is played. You have a valid point about his personality not matching his background. But I'm sure there is a reason for that.


Oh one can make a reason for anything, that's why I think it's so damn unfair to have an overpowered character without real restriction and/or flaws. You could kill someone instantly, if you want to. It doesn't matter if he will or not- he can do it, and that's the problem.

I see what you mean, but that's another thing- very similar to playing favorites. Grammar Nazis and being staff on Minecraft servers have taught me how to write properly and to be fair. It's a shame that others don't see fairness as needed as I do.
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I see what you mean, but that's another thing- very similar to playing favorites. Grammar Nazis and being staff on Minecraft servers have taught me how to write properly and to be fair. It's a shame that others don't see fairness as needed as I do.


There's fairness, and then there is pre-existing knoledge. since you staff MC servers let me give you a example;
Player A has 200 diamonds, and dosn't use them for anything exept trolling other players. Player B steals 10 of them, Player A complains and player B gets banned. That is hardly fair, Player A is trolling, and has more than enough Diamonds. player b stole only 1/20'th of them. I highly doubt it'll be much of a issue. however, letting player B get away with it isn't fair either. see?
Now, Pre existing conditions dictate that if you KNOW player A has a history of trolling and generally being unpleasent, then your likely to be harsher on him than other players, Just as if a famous youtuber joined your server your likely to be kind, welcomeing and understanding of him.

The same goes here; Kat and I have played together before, and she knows how my chars work, they feel OP when read and if pushed in to a situation that forces them to display their skills. However I (as a player) HATE doing things like that. so I will avoid them, My char's tend to be very strong, but with either a unwilliness to use their powers. or just a personality that means they don't use their powers.
For instance, it would be like me Joining your MC server and you knowing I was a famous youtuber, or a very good builder, you'd want to keep me round and be nice to me. or if I joined and you KNOW I'm a troll and a greifer, you'd be harsher on me and less lenient.
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....... Why'd you guys have to start at argument without me I feel left out :( someone yell at me about how Andrea is overpowered or something
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I'm not going to yell at you, Irisity, but I was wondering if Violet and Andrea could room together, if that's okay.
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Irisity said
....... Why'd you guys have to start at argument without me I feel left out :( someone yell at me about how Andrea is overpowered or something


-insert long ragey post about how Andrea is so broken and could just steal the answer to every test and ace every class-
phhhibt! ~blows rasberry~
Looks like Alexander is getting a room to himself. this should be fun. unless anyone wants to ask?
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Irisity said
....... Why'd you guys have to start at argument without me I feel left out :( someone yell at me about how Andrea is overpowered or something

*hugs* don't feel left out. I'd rather not argue. Discussion are welcome. Anyone else have a problem.
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So... On a lighter note who's ready for the holiday
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Not even close. Still have Aton to do
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Did u get any decorations set up?
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It's on the list ;) my daughter's badly today so we've been busy planning that. This weekend decorations, cookies, and gingerbread houses
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On the fifth day of Christmas Mahz gave to me five helpful links.(yes I know there's more than 5 ;p don't go ruining my theme!) Roleplayer guild, users, chat, view raw, and permanent link
Are we ready for classes?
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as far as I can tell though ourimori needs to sort his post
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