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Sorry about vanishing like that. Real life mugged me in a dark alley and it's taken a while to crawl back out.

Any sort of actual posts from me are going to have to wait until tomorrow at least. It's late here and I need to go to sleep, just wanted to say that I'm still alive.


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I do truly feel like some people stop making an effort when faced with something they don't think would be interesting. The point isn't to jump in and start eating when a perfect scenario has been laid out for us; as Casual writers, it's partially our responsibility to make interesting things happen. I can understand if someone doesn't want to participate in a certain event, but if you've made the commitment of joining a Lugubrious RP in a universe with a huge fan following and a dedication to its late creator, 'wanting' doesn't factor in. Good writers aren't summer soldiers that jump ship when the going gets hard.

Silvan, good to see you. I was holding out hope.

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There's only so much interesting stuff you can write about when your character's an antisocial, quiet worker in the middle of basically a woodworks class.
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There's only so much interesting stuff you can write about when your character's an antisocial, quiet worker in the middle of basically a woodworks class.


And you've been doing a good, consistent job of it. As long as you're posting and it's not complete tripe, that works for me. I wasn't addressing you with my little spiel there.
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There's only so much interesting stuff you can write about when your character's an antisocial, quiet worker in the middle of basically a woodworks class.


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well I will have a post soon interested but hard to post considering \that we will be starting missions soon if I am not mistaken.
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@harinezumikouken, @Lucius Cypher: This is exactly the sort of discussion I was hoping for. And the sort I enjoy having, because it's productive and gets different viewpoints on a matter. And Lucius is exactly right; seeing how combat-oriented characters interact outside of that zone is really interesting. But he's also right in that some of the classes can get really, really boring. And though it seems that might make me a "summer soldier", classes like Math and such really don't inspire in me any desire to post. We can't have characters that are always fighting, either, but it seems to me that we get the most activity (and interesting activity) when people are free to let their characters play off of one another.

Because that's the sort of thing that makes me want to post. Writing a transcript of the same class that I finished this morning from a different viewpoint? Interesting once or twice, but gets dull really quickly. And to fix that boredom, we tend to jump to the next period, or the next mission, and skip over so many chances for interpersonal character interactions in the process.

And you're absolutely right, @harinezumikouken. Beacon is an institution of learning, and cutting that out would be senseless. And I can't really say I have a solution, either. But if we think about RWBY, the show rather than this game, how much time does the show linger on the actual classes? By percentage, I wouldn't say more than fifteen to twenty percent. If that. Nor does it focus all on the action. It tends to center around how the characters are interacting. By volume, the majority of the material is what the characters are doing with each other in their own time.

Obviously there needs to be some kind of schedule, otherwise no one in the game would be on the same page. But it seems like (and this is purely my opinion; I can't claim to speak for anyone else) by following such a restrictive schedule, we cut out so much of what RWBY actually consists of. The interesting things about the game are the characters; how Sapphire and Shiro will handle one another, how long until Gratia tries to end Napoli, will Luke ever get a clue? Those are the sort of arcs that make games interesting to read and play.

I don't have a solution, but it seems to me that the regimented schedule doesn't really work as well as it could. And I feel like a solution should gear itself towards allowing that freedom for interaction, towards what the show actually consists of, without abandoning that realistic backdrop.

I do truly feel like some people stop making an effort when faced with something they don't think would be interesting. The point isn't to jump in and start eating when a perfect scenario has been laid out for us; as Casual writers, it's partially our responsibility to make interesting things happen. I can understand if someone doesn't want to participate in a certain event, but if you've made the commitment of joining a Lugubrious RP in a universe with a huge fan following and a dedication to its late creator, 'wanting' doesn't factor in. Good writers aren't summer soldiers that jump ship when the going gets hard.

Silvan, good to see you. I was holding out hope.

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But that's not really how RPGs... Work. Players absolutely have a responsibility to make interesting things happen, but it's also a GM's job to create chances for players to make those interesting things happen. Nor is this a player's job. At the end of the day people play RPGs because they're fun. No one here signed on to make this their job, and play through boring situations just because they're what a "Casual writer" should do. That's actually really elitist, and elitist for a section of the site with "Casual" in the name. Yeah, that means that there should be quality to posts. And I haven't seen anyone dip below that quality in quite a while. Being a Casual player doesn't mean that you need to commit to write though things that are boring.

Roleplay here if you enjoy writing at least a paragraph or two, character development, and some depth. Grammar and spelling are encouraged. Generally one paragraph (a few sentences) per post.


That's what being a Casual player means. It means agreeing to a certain standard of writing. Nowhere in that description is there an obligation to keep writing because you have to, it means you write because you want to. Wanting absolutely factors into it, because that's the reason we're all here.

I don't mean to be offensive, but as someone who does in fact GM, this is something I feel very strongly about. Players are in no way obligated to take part in something that they don't really find enjoyable. There's no need to call people who don't leap at the chance to write about Math class "summer soldiers".
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>will Luke ever get a clue?

no
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Are classes* not times for characters to be playing off one another? Having an assignment in Armory class is not meant to be the only thing people can do; it's meant to provide that realistic backdrop for players to interact with one another and further their own personal stories.

*I've skipped path Math both times. Me skipping a class means that you're not obligated to write about it. Sure, Math lasted a little longer than usual this time, but it was because of an event I created which in turn allowed those personal interactions. If you ask me, Math and History have never been part of the equation because I've never required anyone to post specifically about anything happening in those classes. My terminology doesn't apply to people who don't want to write about Math: that's everyone. That means the 'boring classes' we have are the ones we don't skip: Grimm Studies, Armory, Survival, Practice, and so forth.

I've hit a dilemma. If I have one of those classes run then I disenfranchise people who think it's boring. If I skip one then it upsets people who wanted to use that time for interactions. In these classes I give some things for the characters to do, but they're free to go beyond that. We can all agree that me serving a ball and telling people to hit it, and then watching them hit it, would be boring. So which would be better: me serving a ball in the background and leaving people to hit it in their own way and do whatever else they want, or me setting up personal, individualized situations for every character to fulfill in the mean time? Do I give the players the power to perform their own character development and depth, or do I hand it to them? If character development and depth aren't the player's responsibility, I must confess I don't think I have the capability to do it for everyone. I made a mistake saying that 'wanting' didn't factor into it, and for that I apologize. I didn't know what I was saying. In general, I manage to do a pretty good job of not seeming like a complete idiot, but sometimes I slip up.

The dilemma is moot now though. If it makes any difference, this was the last time I was going to do the class routine. We're even skipping the rest of this time's classes so I don't have to subject any more boring to people. Though I wanted to perhaps approach it a little more organically, it makes sense that we would timeskip around like crazy in order to get to the interesting things. What seems like a workable solution to me is to restructure the RP to eliminate boring circumstances. There will be opportunities for intracharacter interaction aplenty during more interesting events to replace whatever we'll be losing out on by stopping all normal classes. No matter how senseless cutting out the classroom learning would be given the setting, it must be done if people aren't enjoying it. We've done enough classes by now to establish the 'school' aspect of Beacon; it's about time we started having fun with the 'combat' aspect. Bottom line is:

You're not wrong. My previous plan, even keeping in mind what I've said about Math & History, can't continue.
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I know i haven't been the most active at time and I am sorry for that. but if I may have a a word or two without offending anyone if I am causing a problem at all I will drop out I cant be on more because of balancing a job at a cafe and college it can be hard to do a post everyday. So if my posts yes are pretty short at times but I try my best to get involved at times and if thats not enough than I will gladly resign so someone better can take my spot so there we go.
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I didn't mean to say that you should be responsible for serving up everyone individualized situations or pitches, and if that's how it came across, I apologize. I actually think the regimented schedule is a sign that you had a good idea to set up situations for everyone to use that, ultimately, didn't quite work.

And a restructuring along those lines sounds, to me, like a good plan. But if more people like things as they are than not, then by all means we should continue with the system.

This is all just what I think; I wanted to bring it up so other people can chime in.

(And excellent use of the Oobleck image)
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I know i haven't been the most active at time and I am sorry for that. but if I may have a a word or two without offending anyone if I am causing a problem at all I will drop out I cant be on more because of balancing a job at a cafe and college it can be hard to do a post everyday. So if my posts yes are pretty short at times but I try my best to get involved at times and if thats not enough than I will gladly resign so someone better can take my spot so there we go.


Suku, you're doing just fine. You post often enough and contribute enough, not to mention always popping in to say when you can't, to make you a valuable player. The kind of effort you're putting out is admirable, even.
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I am on pain meds and unable to use a finger but hey, I'll try to get something posted.
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I know i haven't been the most active at time and I am sorry for that. but if I may have a a word or two without offending anyone if I am causing a problem at all I will drop out I cant be on more because of balancing a job at a cafe and college it can be hard to do a post everyday. So if my posts yes are pretty short at times but I try my best to get involved at times and if thats not enough than I will gladly resign so someone better can take my spot so there we go.


DON'T LEAVE LUKE ALONE WITH MOKUREN SHE MIGHT HURT HIM

HE'S A FRAGILE BOY
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DON'T LEAVE LUKE ALONE WITH MOKUREN SHE MIGHT HURT HIM

HE'S A FRAGILE BOY


pretty sure hes not that fragile
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he is young and innocent to the horrible truths of the world
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>will Luke ever get a clue?

no


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THE HYPE IS REAL
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THE HYPE IS REAL


Well it was either QRTS or TRQS.

Personally, I would've liked the Turquoise colour better.
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