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http://tfwiki.net/wiki/One_Shall_Fall

Link to the episode with the instance
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Also this should help a bit

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unicron

And I'm off. Whoosh! *vanishes*
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Considering that's about as far from canon as you can get, I would estimate that the only reason it had the effect it did is because of bad writing, and nothing more.

However, if dark energon were to function by that rule, it would most likely infect Apocalypse. However, as Apocalypse is nigh-indestructible, and a force of evil, and the Dark Energon seems to possess some measure of intelligence, it is more likely to attempt to turn him into a user than it is to inflict any harm on him. If it did become harmful, I doubt it could do much before Apocalypse adapted to it and became immune.
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@thewizardguy For the Cyano and Ultron case, they both seem very well versed in technology. While one is en entity meant to control it, the other is an individual whom technology holds no secrets. They can make a great fight.

For Sam and Satsuki. Although Satsuki is indeed stronger, she has a defined limit while Sam has enough skill to last all day. The guy deflected gatling gun bullets like it was Sunday stroll, took on UG's in a few minutes without a problem, even faced off toe to toe with Armstrong who is very well in the power tier of this RP.

I'd say Satsuki has the upper hand in raw power, which has never been a problem for Sam to handle. On the other hand, I do think Sam has superior sword skills than Satsuki. Especially with that trigger sword draw. It could go both ways here too, with an advantage to Satsuki of course.
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I'm thinking I've been making Grimlock too weak. I don't know ... Perhaps not.
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He isn't too weak. Your just fighting two people who happen to be very versed in dismantling robots.
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Cyano working with and creating androids day in and day out, and Sam taking down UGs and metal gears as an afterthought.
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And meanwhile, Ruiko knocked out Saber with one air propelled rock as a body shot. :p
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And now we know why he stays in his lab and is perfectly content to just be a butler.
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True. But I'm thinking Statscream will be more than they can handle. Unlike Grimlock, who mostly relies on his abilities, Starscream relies more on his cunning.
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@Flamelord Want to post something before Ethereal snarks the shit out of Saber or are you busy?
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True. But I'm thinking Statscream will be more than they can handle. Unlike Grimlock, who mostly relies on his abilities, Starscream relies more on his cunning.


He... hehe... Cyano runs on betrayal. She could out starscream starscream in cunning. Plus she has outward.

Well. Except when it's not worth the effort.
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@Flamelord Want to post something before Ethereal snarks the shit out of Saber or are you busy?


Sure, I'll get something up relatively soon.
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Considering the fact that Satsuki is able to rip apart entire buildings with the shockwave caused by a single swing of her sword..... her strength is so much beyond sam's that they're not even in the same league. And again, it's impossible for him to even harm her without using two swords and using them like scissors, a weakness so arbitrary there's no way he'll figure it out. While he might be able to outmatch her in speed, there's no indication he's superior in skill. Combat experience I might grant you.

First hit Satsuki lands, she's going to go straight through the Vibrosword, and straight through everything behind it. The only question is whether he'll be able to have his blade uselessly strike her before she annihilates him.
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That's cute. No one Out-Starscreams Starscream!
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Considering the fact that Satsuki is able to rip apart entire buildings with the shockwave caused by a single swing of her sword..... her strength is so much beyond sam's that they're not even in the same league. And again, it's impossible for him to even harm her without using two swords and using them like scissors, a weakness so arbitrary there's no way he'll figure it out. While he might be able to outmatch her in speed, there's no indication he's superior in skill. Combat experience I might grant you.

First hit Satsuki lands, she's going to go straight through the Vibrosword, and straight through everything behind it. The only question is whether he'll be able to have his blade uselessly strike her before she annihilates him.


Oh my. I was actually considering having Cyano toss him her sword while she went off to call in some fighter ships to handle starscream. He almost had her weakness.
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Also, mind if I port Apocalypse to the Richardverse? Seems like it would be interesting. Although with most of the Heavy Hitters out in Arcadia, I'm not sure they have anything that could hold him off.

My other thoughts are moving him towards Kolon (smoldering ruins of friendship), or having him thrash the Goa'uld.
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Again, it has to be used in a scissor motion in order for it to do anything. But yeah, almost.
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Actually your second view on Dark Energon seems like more sense to me. Attempts to corrupt, detects a valid host, then symbiosis.
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