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I've already edited the post so it's more like he's acting despite the spell.

M3

Alright. I wasn't certain, thank you for clarifying :)

Ugh, and don't even get me started on trying to translate names... They did it with LoTR and Harry Potter, and it was equally horrendous to see some of the names that resulted from the attempt. I've personally been very annoyed with LoTR sword, Sting, in that respect, because some translator decided that its name in Danish should be "Stik" (which is the imperative form of the verb "sting", or the word used to describe the area that has been stung (a mosquito bite is, while we're at it, a "myggestik" - a "mosquito sting" (despite the fact that mosquitoes are not even in possession of a sting in the first place))) instead of what I thought was a much more logical name, "Brod" (the anatomical feature called sting, used to perform the aforementioned action). Doesn't make sense. Eh...

The anatomical feature is called "a stinger" (though this can rarely also be used for the entire being who committed the act). Hornets, wasps and bees have stingers, for instance... Simply "sting" is a verb - the act of stinging -, and "a sting" as a noun ... would be either be the sensation of a certain kind of sharp pain (akin to that) experienced when stung or, indeed, the place which was stung, which makes the Danish translation under question a linguistically correct one, though most likely not one which carries the intended meaning, whereas translating it as "the Stinger" is a bit of a creative freedom... I personally have always interpreted the English variant as being the verb "sting" for some reason (as this is arguably at least somewhat illogical way of interpreting a name); naming a sword after a feeling of pain (as most people who call themselves "Sting" mean it) definitely makes more sense than naming it after a sting as in the spot which was stung, though, so now when I actually think on it, it seems most reasonable to assume the sword is pretty much named a variant of "Pain". (That said, they actually translated the sword Sting into "Stinger" [as in the functional body part, not the culprit] in Estonian ... in I think all of the variants. Those that I've seen, anyway. Then again, the verb or sensation-noun might feel be a bit odd, or I'm just used to it being "[the] Stinger" in Estonian - as I read/was read the Hobbit long before I saw the English version anywhere, when I was perhaps four, which also might or might not have contributed to my mental image of orcs as toothpicks, as that was the most common kind of "ork" I knew.) But yeah... "A stinger" is what one stings with (or a specific medical condition, or - rarely - someone who stings), "a sting" is either the pain or the site of it...
I should perhaps also correct myself: I prefer the fully Estonian translations, but only if the Estonian translations are actually any good. Granted, the fully Estonian translations definitely also have the general tendency to be better - I think because it forces the translator to actually think on what makes sense and/or sounds good, as opposed to just putting down whatever word comes to mind first or just kind of "approximating," which can be either amusing or painful, but usually painful, especially combined with the cumbersome sentence structure that tends to result for not putting words in the order they are supposed to be in in the end-product language. Occasionally, bad translations are painful enough for me to just give up from the the constant desire to cringe and either find an English/Finnish version or abandon trying to read the thing altogether. As for more entertaining mistranslations go, I recall a rather curious article about the production of processors, with insisted that the deposits of a rare substance, called "siliitsium" are about to run out, and processors will thus raise in price, and we'd have to invent new alternatives to substitute for the rare "siliitsium"... (The Estonian word for silica is "räni". And no, it wasn't April fools.)
- The "carnivorous squirrel" being an important thing was actually a reference in one of our private messages, in relation to me learning words of foreign languages which are of dubious worth in real scenarios that don't involve teaching your friends and acquaintances silly things. - The squirrel that started the conversation was one of the usual red omnivorous ones found in most of Europe, seen while we were wandering around in Vienna with a couple of locals (if you haven't seen one there, you've not been there). One of the other Estonian people with us asked what squirrel is in German, and then commented that "squirrel" might be the weirdest-sounding German word they've heard yet. We also saw a lot of crows, in one park in particular, sitting a dozen to two on each tree (the trees were maybe five meters tall at most, so quite small), and occasionally dropping down to investigate when someone dropped something, only to return to position right after. I think I only heard cawing maybe twice while I was there? The rest of it was in full silence despite of there being literally hundreds of the birds there. Reminded of the Rilon-scene, somehow, and those were mostly the black "carrion" variety of crow, too. A few were saddlebacks, and a bit more than the latter were hybrids. Tried to take a picture, but my cell-phone camera isn't always reliable.
And we pretty much call chipmunks "striped squirrels" ... more specifically, the kind of stripe that goes the along the length of something, rather than transverse stripes. "Earth/ground squirrel" is a different creature, the same as in English. Ehh... They all are the same taxonomic family, though so are marmots and prairie dogs, which we do not call "squirrels".

Any comments about my thoughts on mind-affecting spells and self-knowledge and awareness? Since, yeah, as long as it's not specifically thought-control or the spell isn't sophisticated enough to separately null your knowledge of self ... I'd say any kind of generic-effect spell or abrupt illusion would actually be consciously rather jarring and immediately identifiable, especially when you're aware that someone was casting a mind-affecting spell.
Alright, and I'll write up something about the Illusionist (and a few other older things), then. There are a few things I said I would like to offer additional information in, actually, and at least one other thing that was left on OldGuild.

*cough*someonepost*coughcough*

*Looks at Jack, Legion and cthulu*
I no can do. I posted last, and my other character is a bit indisposed. You and Jack can feel free to post; Domhnall likely won't be moving to Iridiel until he considers himself done with the newcomers (yell "Skip!" if you think Thaler isn't going to do anything, I suppose), and Legion is basically just going to post when he is actually able to.

How close are you guys to advancing to the next day? I haven't been able to read the most recent posts.

Eehk. My apologies for taking so long to edit... College projects have been swamping me. Regardless, it is finally edited (just added that Morgan's actions, while aggressive, were eventually tempered into a passive "let's talk" reaction. Edited why this happened, in which he was affected by the spell, only temporary brushed by his beastal side, instead of being completely dispelled).

GroooooooooOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Posted... will post more. Must rest now. Yes.

...I was just about to poke you and see whether you were still responsive, as it's been far too quiet here lately. I'll see whether I can post a reply a bit later in the evening (edit: if Nessa feels like posting before that, she can feel free to, as I don't think there'd be any interference from my side). And is there still a PM I said I'll send you, isn't there? *thinks* There is a PM I said I'll send... Oeh.
(Are you certain Olan was supposed to be bemused in the first sentence? As in the negative feeling of being confused and slightly taken aback?)

Just letting you guys know I'm waiting on a collab update from Jack.

What's the post order? Anyone feel like going first?

I assume it's either you or Mercinus first, and then Yoshua (since it was mostly Morgan being addressed and these two are the ones wearing masks).

There, it's a bit overdue, but I've posted. I've had quite a bit of driving between home and various family houses recently, and somehow dealing with certain members of my family and commuting combined seem to drain me quite a bit (much more so than work ever did - I can work from 8 to midnight six to seven days a week, only taking breaks to eat and quickly patrol some of the sites I frequent, maybe going out with friends one day a week, and I'm perfectly fine - I can keep this up for at least three years in a row with no discernible adverse effects, stated so because I've actually pretty much done just that...). In any case, I think I'm just going to stay home until Christmas now...

It's Mercinus on the Zerul City side, I believe (going by his own words; his character is yet to react to Rhae's, for one). He's been a bit busy with university, but should be posting as soon as possible.
Jack by the roadside, I believe (Legion will still post when actually capable of doing so)?

Also, it occurred to me that it might specifically be the "lord"-part which makes demon lords sound so puny compared to gods. Since "god" can be pretty much whatever, "demon" can be pretty much whatever (there are demons who match the most powerful of gods, at least in some eastern mythology), and "devil" (in the contexts I usually draw from when I think of the word) is quite strictly either a(n evil) deity or the primordial evil and the biggest and baddest that side has to offer ... but "lord" - aside of being quite strictly male, which isn't the case with Prophecy-demons, and "lady" being a term which brings to mind daintiness and frailty rather than than power to the point where my brain wants to interpret it as a derogatory term (fault certain members of my mother's side of family for that impression ... that is probably strictly my and select others' problem and can be discounted as such, though) -, but Lord is ... somehow a middle-tier rank at best? Just a notch more than your typical stock demon, ready to be usurped by any other demon who manages to get close enough to stab them in the back? Doesn't help that the only stories that I've read in which there were specifically demon lords and devils together, the latter could literally (and somewhat amusingly, if you're from the modern west) make the first explode just by sending an angry look at the first. But that's that. I've probably rambled too long on the topic...

Speaking of old things, a random tidbit I discovered during one of our duiscussions, but somehow neglected to mention: namely, English and Estonian rainbows are different. For me, I've always known the rainbow to be red-orange-yellow-green-cyan-blue-violet, so when you mentioned a person denying there are any colors between blue and green I was in half mind to just link the Wiki page for rainbows ... and for the first time realized that the English rainbow is red-orange-yellow-gree-blue-indigo-violet. Oh.
Which is perhaps especially odd, since I've always considered indigo to be one of those pseudo-colors no one know what or where is. The indigo bird (from who the name comes from) is a kind of iridescent cyan/blue/blueish-violet, and only the last is kind of what the color is defined as. Depending on lighting conditions and the individuals, actual indigos may not have any of the indigo color whatsoever. Nominally, the indigo color is somewhere between violent and blue. As used, it tends to translate to "greenish-cyan to violet," which ... is kind of pretty much useless classification.
Oh well. Could always bring out your typical color printer cartridge (CMYK), which is cyan-magenta-yellow-key(black). Magenta is the color you get when blue light mixes with red, for the record. Pink is red combined with violet - which, by the way, means that your RGB monitor screen, being incapable of displaying violet (things called "violet" are always purple as far as RGB systems are concerned), also cannot display proper pink.

On a random note, my brain should finally learn that "decimate" means to kill every tenth person, not everyone. I've seen the term "completely decimated" far too often in writing, though... Does this mean making extra certain each unfortunate tenth person is dead, or just confirms that the firing squad did not get bored and wander off three fourths through decimating a particularly large congregation of people?

And then there was this thing:

Any comments about my thoughts on mind-affecting spells and self-knowledge and awareness? Since, yeah, as long as it's not specifically thought-control or the spell isn't sophisticated enough to separately null your knowledge of self ... I'd say any kind of generic-effect spell or abrupt illusion would actually be consciously rather jarring and immediately identifiable, especially when you're aware that someone was casting a mind-affecting spell.

(Just so everything is in one place and you don't have to go perusing several pages' worth of old OoC posts.)

I have been busy with university indeed. Just a word of advice; don't try and completely 1/3 of your 1st year of your Masters degree in a space of 5 weeks. But now that I am free for Christmas, I've managed to post a response.

M3

Dear lord, Ixion's face is messed up. xD

But glad to see you survived, Merc! I'll have a post up within the next few days (at the latest - aiming for a response within 24 hours).

*EDIT1*

Aaand posted. Let me know if anything needs to be changed!

Merry Christmas, everyone! And I must say, I've already gotten three great presents, even though it's still early in the morning here: two new posts in the RP to prove that it has not been as wholly abandoned as I was starting to fear that it was, and managing to finish my paper on our semester project before Christmas, granting me a little break between now and New Year's Eve to actually get some posting done myself.

Merry Christmas Eve (still not christmas here yet)

Merry Christmas indeed! (Even though we use a word derived from "Yule" for the holiday, something I actually had not paid all that much attention to now other than at some point noting that our word for "Christmas" didn't actually refer to "Christ"... "Christmas Eve" ... Yule Saturday? is also 23rd for us, and the actual Christmas/Yule spans over two days on the 24th and 25th.)

I didn't actually even get to inform Rhae that Merc had posted - he managed to notice it entirely on his own. (I guess it's Yoshua and then Jack on that side, now?) No posts I can make myself, though... On the flipside, I absolutely still have work I should manage somewhere between family dinners and trying to arrange a meeting with an old friend sometime within this year still. And then there is New Years', which is arguably a notably more significant holiday for me than Yule/Christmas...

Now it's Christmas so. Happy Christmas everyone! ^_^

And happy holidays!