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Home now! Working on my CS now.
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Alright, here's the updated version. Let me know what you think.



I also figured I'd address your comments about his abilities a little.

Stoneskin: Most of the defensive power here is intended to defend him against the blunt impacts of parrying or knocking aside a strike, rather than directly blocking a sword someone swings at him. Think of the various Iron-whatever techniques of Chinese martial arts.

Reactive Ki: That's the main reason I mentioned efficiency rather than direct usability. He is intended to be worn out somewhat quickly overall, but be durable enough to take the hits he needs to ruin someone's day.

Barrier: By no means is this supposed to be a catch-all defense. It only really protects against physical objects and the force they carry with them. While it will stop a fireball or lightning bolt or something similar, it's only because they are coming into contact with what is essentially a solid object. It will not however stop the heat, sound, or light from either of these effects, and enough force and energy will overwhelm and shatter the barrier. When that happens it's like a flash grenade going off right in front of him.

Kinetomancy: At the longer distances yes, but closer up (mostly within his physical reach) he is able to focus it more. What starts out as a blade-sharp wedge of force that he projects as a punch would start out as enough to sever someone's limb, but quickly deteriorate into a blunt impact within about a foot. From there it would be like a solid punch for a few more feet before growing weaker, and so on and so forth.


Review mindless jokes have been stated. Character seems to be a perfect fit, good job. No qualms from me.

Go ahead and add him to the Characters page. Approved by both Tex and I.
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Home now! Working on my CS now.


Cool shit. It seems like we've got a solid roster so for; I'm looking forward to yours.
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New details in the main post, check the hider below for all the updates

@Blue Demon Added demonology in there, and 'Imp' as important terminology across Thorisa.

If anyone would like more to be added, never hesitate to ask. Also feel free to voice any concerns you may have with this new information.




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Alright, here's the updated version. Let me know what you think.



I've got no problems with him, Good job with the sheet.

You can throw him in the characters thread at your leisure~
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@Hatman1801 Awesome. Also, my CS may take a while longer ^^"

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@Hatman1801 Awesome. Also, my CS may take a while longer ^^"

Edit: Here's the CS!


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Just remember that your history isn't law; the majority of people, even Divers, don't even believe in Ki being an existing force. I am aware that Tex let you be liberal with the history regarding Ki, but don't expect a lot of people to know or care about Kho, or be aware of the Philosophy of Ki.


On a general scale, it seems alright, but I do have one significant qualm. You state in your history that instead of the extreme strength and durability of your fellow Ki users, you have the extraordinary healing factor, but you state in your abilities that you still have the superhuman levels of strength and durability. There has to be a balance here, and I just want you to be perfectly aware of your limitations. This RP is going to involve character progression and improvement of abilities over time.

In short, you have an extreme healing factor. Be consistent with your other limitations in relation to the rest of the Ki-using cast in regards to that.

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I want to apologize if I'm seeming a little stingy with things regarding Ki, but I'm just trying to keep everything balanced out. Tex and I weren't expecting the number of Ki users we already have, and there has to be a general similarity between them in terms of the physical enhancements it gives, as well as the limitations it has to have when compared to Arcane. It's a lot harder to say that X person's strength totally surmounts Y person's strength, even if they're both Ki users, because then we have someone sitting there saying "What the fuck I'm worthless compared to person X."

Edit Note: I just want to make sure characters are evened out properly before the RP starts. Nobody wants to RP for awhile as a character they suddenly feel like has a lesser place than others.
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@Hatman1801 Regarding the history portion of your analysis, I said his body did not have the same measure of density and strength as theirs, referring to their durability (which I define as the difficulty of getting pass their thick skin), a difference to resilience (he's as squishy as a normal human). When strength and speed in general are a factor, this ability has not yet been tapped during previous analysis by other monks. The strength and speed came naturally through training.

The difference between durability and resilience is that resilience is a measure of how many times he can get hit and keep getting back up (a measure of how much pain one can take); durability is the measure of how many times they can get hit until they get hurt (a measure of how long it takes for them to finally get hurt).

Regarding the God-like Strength, I did actually wince multiple times when I was writing this CS in regards to that. I was trying to think of a better term that is above superhuman, but I couldn't think of it. So, I figured when it came around, I could try and explain it better. It isn't in the literal sense that he could benchpress a planet, but rather punch a steel beam in half (whereas Superhuman would just cause it to bend). However, I think I shall dial back the measure of strength.

Finally, the "Kho" issue. I understand that it means diddly-squat, however it is directly linked to the culture and how traditional it is. It is a minor province and has little influence, but it is merely added lore for Saiga. The history of it, obviously, isn't law and I never claimed it was. It is simply a part of the "Saiga" explanation-- nothing more.
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@Hatman1801 Regarding the history portion of your analysis, I said his body did not have the same measure of density and strength as theirs, referring to their durability (which I define as the difficulty of getting pass their thick skin), a difference to resilience (he's as squishy as a normal human). When strength and speed in general are a factor, this ability has not yet been tapped during previous analysis by other monks. The strength and speed came naturally through training.

The difference between durability and resilience is that resilience is a measure of how many times he can get hit and keep getting back up (a measure of how much pain one can take); durability is the measure of how many times they can get hit until they get hurt (a measure of how long it takes for them to finally get hurt).

Regarding the God-like Strength, I did actually wince multiple times when I was writing this CS in regards to that. I was trying to think of a better term that is above superhuman, but I couldn't think of it. So, I figured when it came around, I could try and explain it better. It isn't in the literal sense that he could benchpress a planet, but rather punch a steel beam in half (whereas Superhuman would just cause it to bend). However, I think I shall dial back the measure of strength.

Finally, the "Kho" issue. I understand that it means diddly-squat, however it is directly linked to the culture and how traditional it is. It is a minor province and has little influence, but it is merely added lore for Saiga. The history of it, obviously, isn't law and I never claimed it was. It is simply a part of the "Saiga" explanation-- nothing more.


Just wanted to clarify your awareness on the Kho bit; I had a feeling you already knew that, but it never hurts to make sure.

The whole God-like strength bit was mostly a wording issue that I had to clarify. I knew you weren't actually going to be God-like strength, but again, it's my job to clarify just exactly what you meant. Dealing with the levels of strength between Alex, Jenso, and Lone has to be done with a degree of relativity, since I can't have people outright eclipsing one another. Again, nobody wants to be a trash heap compared to their peers.

Edited note: Tex is GM, and still needs to do a review himself. I'm just trying to make sure I have bases covered.
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@Hatman1801 Of course, and I understand that. I also apologize for some of my wording-- it can come off as confusing and, after rereading my response to you, sounds almost dickish to the point of being a "Know-It-All." But, yes, I am aware of my strengths and weaknesses. If you want, I can go back through the CS and go into more detail about what's going on and how exactly his accelerated healing factor affects his physiology as a whole. Or, I can dial the strength down to Superhuman if you're more comfortable with that.

Edit: of course ^^
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Admittedly, I'm a little surprised to see so many Ki users this early in. At any rate, what Hatman's talkin' is a good thing to keep in mind.

I'll take this moment to clarify that in terms of strength improvement, unless there's a significant focus on raw power or speed, all Ki users will be of similar strength. Same goes for speed and durability.

For example, Jenso is extremely durable, and very resistant to all types of harm. Durability is his current focus.

Alex Also has a durability focus from the look of it, albeit to a lesser extent, but I would consider his strength lower than both Lone and Jenso's to start. I imagine after fighting for a while, his reactive Ki would eventually make him far stronger and faster than the other two, and possibly most Ki users in history.

From the look of it, Lone's regenerative factor is just a different take on enhanced durability. Think high-HP rather than high-Armor.

Ehem, so yea.

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Careful with your speed and strength relative to everyone else. If you specialize in one, the other will certainly be weaker with the regenerative capabilities you already have. I also don't really like the term 'god-like' if you're not pouring all of your focus into raw power. The way Ki affects strength is very mystical, rather than literal, as is the nature of Ki V.S. the arcane.

As long as you don't overdo it, the sheet looks fine. I'll edit Kho's philosophy a bit and put it into Saiga's history, when I have the time.
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@tex Alright. Well, just to be safe, I am going to change it from "God-like" (still makes me cringe) to "Superhuman." I hope you don't mind. As for everything else, I will be very careful. If I slip up, let me know.
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@tex Alright. Well, just to be safe, I am going to change it from "God-like" (still makes me cringe) to "Superhuman." I hope you don't mind. As for everything else, I will be very careful. If I slip up, let me know.


All we need to hear. Pretty sure once Tex does the edits he needs to do, he'll be ready to toss into the happy bin of Characters.

And yeah, I was also expecting more people to be Arcane users. I guess people don't like magic as much as they used to.
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All we need to hear. Pretty sure once Tex does the edits he needs to do, he'll be ready to toss into the happy bin of Characters.

And yeah, I was also expecting more people to be Arcane users. I guess people don't like magic as much as they used to.

Alright, well I'll go ahead and make my edit to the strength and wait for the official "go ahead."

lol, for me, I used too many magic characters and very rarely have I used more physically inclined characters. That's the reason I went with ki ^^"

Edit: Fixed. I also think Lone may specialize more in his speed than his strength, in all honesty. But, hey, that's up to you guys. I haven't thought that far ahead yet.

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Alright, well I'll go ahead and make my edit to the strength and wait for the official "go ahead."

lol, for me, I used too many magic characters and very rarely have I used more physically inclined characters. That's the reason I went with ki ^^"

Edit: Fixed. I also think Lone may specialize more in his speed than his strength, in all honesty. But, hey, that's up to you guys. I haven't thought that far ahead yet.



Righto, you've got my go ahead to post it in the characters tab. I'll keep my eye on you in-character.
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It's a good thing first to join in later when other sheets have been reviewed to have an idea of power limits and other expectations.

That being said, mine's going to take a bit long, especially with the appearance.
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Right on, no rush.
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Righto, you've got my go ahead to post it in the characters tab. I'll keep my eye on you in-character.

Alrighty. I'll do my best to keep myself in check ^^
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I feel somewhat invested after making it through all of that information :D

I am not terribly familiar with all of it, however, and was wondering if someone would mind telling me the main differences between Arcane and Ki? It seems to me that they are basically the same thing, but applied and manipulated differently, so I don't think I'm interpreting it correctly.
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I feel somewhat invested after making it through all of that information :D

I am not terribly familiar with all of it, however, and was wondering if someone would mind telling me the main differences between Arcane and Ki? It seems to me that they are basically the same thing, but applied and manipulated differently, so I don't think I'm interpreting it correctly.


Here's the brief, Tex-Approved guide to Arcane and Ki!

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Arcane energy is the base of ALL energy in the universe. All atoms, from hydrogen to whatever-the-fuck-omini-ginous-shitonium, produce arcane energy at a constant pace as their electrons spin round and round. Not only that, but electrons, protons, and neutrons (and basically all the building blocks that make up atoms, A.K.A. all matter everywhere) are simply byproducts of arcane energy hardening over the course of millions of years.

Arcane energy is the body of the universe, it's in everything. It's in the air, ground, water, etc. It is also the source behind all forms of energy because of this, including the most powerful and ever present force of all, gravity, since large deposits of arcane energy are attracted to one another. For the purpose of this universe, physics, chemistry, and all science everywhere is due to arcane energy.

Due to arcane energy being the basis of EVERYTHING, it can be manipulated by humans to create just about anything. Using it, humans can create all sorts of magic. Since it's the source of EVERYTHING, it can theoretically be used to do ANYTHING, within reason, and as long as the user is powerful enough to do so.

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Ki on the other hand, is the essence of the soul. It is only found in living things, and it cannot be detected. It is a spiritual essence that makes people who they are. In a sense, it is the presence of consciousness. Ki, being spiritually attached to a person's body, cannot exist outside of a host. It will disappear, seemingly into nothingness, as it leaves a person's body.

However, since Ki does not abide by the laws of physics, it can bend the rules in regards to how the body works. For example, a person could cast a spell on themselves to increase their muscle mass using arcane energy, but with Ki, they can increase their power without physically affecting the composition of their body at all. It is an unreal power. Ki can also do things like harden skin, increase how quickly people move, give people a sixth sense, or anything else that would improve a person's natural physical abilities. In a nutshell, Ki is a true magical power-up that cannot be explained by science alone.

Ki is also 100 times more powerful than arcane energy if you were to compare it by sheer mass. In some cases, Ki can be solidified for a short amount of time, and expelled from the body in many different ways. This Ki is harmful to all except the user, and can easily overpower all forms of normal magic. This however, is EXTREMELY rare, and I'm not allowing it early on in the RP.

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So yea. The super mega simple explanation is:

Arcane = science
Ki = Spirit
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