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Why? Because OMG HES SO RACIST/MISOGYNIST?


Not just that.

Because he has no political experience prior to this, lets his arrogance dictate his actions, and has begun behaving like Hitler, according to WWII survivors. Do people really think he'd make rational, positive decisions if given presidential power? I'd rather see him sent off to some remote island where he can film bad reality shows no one will watch.
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I don't want Trump to win so much as I enjoy having a front row seat to the implosion of this fucktarded two-party system.

I really wish Rand Paul were a viable candidate, but Trump's still better than Shillary or Le Bern XD


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Or are you talking about the knee-jerk reaction that is really common now among everyone else? How he has caused a lot of otherwise politically lethargic people to cringe in horror and pay attention?


Yes. Anything that makes people care about politics is a-okay in my books. The biggest issue facing democracy at the moment is apathy, and Trump makes people care about politics. I could say the same for Bernie Sanders, but this thread wasn't about him.

I adore Bernie Sanders as well.

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Do people really think he'd make rational, positive decisions if given presidential power?


I don't really care about Trump as a potential president of the United States. I care about Trump as voting encouragement. He has brought more attention to politics in the past few weeks than all of Obama's "Change" pitch brought over the entire course of the 2008 election.
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I'd rather see him sent off to some remote island where he can film bad reality shows no one will watch.

bad reality shows no one will watch.

bad reality shows

no one

bad


I would watch the shit out of Donald Trump left to complain on a desert island, fight me
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I would watch the shit out of Donald Trump left to complain on a desert island, fight me


Make Gilligan's Island Great Again

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Oh, he knows.
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I really wish Rand Paul were a viable candidate,


I'd say, "Go and vote for him in the primary" but then I don't think either of us are residents and voters in Iowa or Delaware. And I know I'm for sure not a registered Republican so I'm not allowed to vote in the Republican primary in Michigan.

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Yeh, you can only vote and see what happens anyway, so you might as well vote for your guy in the primary even if he isn't viable.

In Missouri you can vote in both primaries if you like. Not to say we are particularly relevant to the entire thing...

Oh, he knows.


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I'm not as worried about Trump as I am worried about his supporters after many, many arguments on social media.
Most of them can't even list out his policies and the ones who do can't see that he clearly has no fucking idea on how to run a country.
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I don't want Trump to win so much as I enjoy having a front row seat to the implosion of this fucktarded two-party system.

I really wish Rand Paul were a viable candidate, but Trump's still better than Shillary or Le Bern XD


Ironic meme voters are the bottom of the barrel. How does it feel to be terrible?
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Ironic meme voters are the bottom of the barrel. How does it feel to be terrible?


Every election in the United States is just a competition between two memes, and the meme that's most dank gets to run things for four years. You're all meme voters.
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The DNA of the soul.
The DNA of the nation.
Memes.
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I fucking love what Donald Trump is doing to politics. I'm not going to vote for him or anything, but I'd totally go to a rally. Would you rather pay $2700 to get a photo with Hil-Dawg or sit in on an epic rant?

The various news agencies are flat-out fucking unprepared for a person rich and ballsy enough that they can't put him in their pocket (and by 'the news agencies,' I guess I really mean 'the people who own them'). It's brilliant to watch.
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I fucking love what Donald Trump is doing to politics. I'm not going to vote for him or anything, but I'd totally go to a rally. Would you rather pay $2700 to get a photo with Hil-Dawg or sit in on an epic rant?

The various news agencies are flat-out fucking unprepared for a person rich and ballsy enough that they can't put him in their pocket (and by 'the news agencies,' I guess I really mean 'the people who own them'). It's brilliant to watch.


Media loves this guy, there is not way they would ever want him to change. Look at last nights debate. Trump didn't force them to try and sell it as a Trump-win despite him not going. They did that on their own.

This is Trump's strong suite: he knows how the media works. They don't want a hero, they want headlines, and he knows how to make headlines. Will they sell him as a villain? Of course, their audiences love to hate him, and they know how to sell a good love-to-hate story. And Trump will play up the villain card because the contrarians that form his support base are looking for the Jesus character, who the wicked general population hates and vilifies because his message is too pure.
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Hey if any of y'all want to have some fun if Trump gets elected, Kalashnikov is opening a factory in Florida and we have a bunch of people in America who have yet to be armed with modern civil war-appropriate weaponry. So, you know if anyone in NC or Virginia is up for some gun running, I'm ready when you are.

I've got an entire playlist on iTunes specifically set up for this.
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Hey if any of y'all want to have some fun if Trump gets elected, Kalashnikov is opening a factory in Florida and we have a bunch of people in America who have yet to be armed with modern civil war-appropriate weaponry. So, you know if anyone in NC or Virginia is up for some gun running, I'm ready when you are.

I've got an entire playlist on iTunes specifically set up for this.


Is setting up playlists for the fight going to end up being this civil war's equivalent to families riding down on their buggies to watch Bull Run?

I can't wait until, thirty years from now when the world begins to recover from the Trump Wars, the first books about the conflict are published.

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"When the call went out to go and fight the Trump, Keyguyperson was one of the first to join up. He packed light, bringing with him an AK-47, a back-pack full of ammunition, the flag his father carried during the Cola Wars, two pairs of shoes just in case he was called for a job interview, and a phone filled with his favorite K-Pop.

He first saw action at Chattanooga, where his battalion was pinned inside of a Jimmy Johns at the Elmswood Mall. Three times, a cavalry brigade of well-armed seniors in mobility scooters charged their position, and all three times Keyguysperson's battalion held their ground. But not all of his belongs survived. A bullet ricocheted off of a french roll and shattered his phone, killing it instantly.

It was the last Keyguyperson would hear K-Pop until the end of the war."
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Is setting up playlists for the fight going to end up being this civil war's equivalent to families riding down on their buggies to watch Bull Run?

I can't wait until, thirty years from now when the world begins to recover from the Trump Wars, the first books about the conflict are published.

(mood music)

"When the call went out to go and fight the Trump, Keyguyperson was one of the first to join up. He packed light, bringing with him an AK-47, a back-pack full of ammunition, the flag his father carried during the Cola Wars, two pairs of shoes just in case he was called for a job interview, and a phone filled with his favorite K-Pop.

He first saw action at Chattanooga, where his battalion was pinned inside of a Jimmy Johns at the Elmswood Mall. Three times, a cavalry brigade of well-armed seniors in mobility scooters charged their position, and all three times Keyguysperson's battalion held their ground. But not all of his belongs survived. A bullet ricocheted off of a french roll and shattered his phone, killing it instantly.

It was the last Keyguyperson would hear K-Pop until the end of the war."


So many sacrifices were made that day.
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Not just that.

Because he has no political experience prior to this, lets his arrogance dictate his actions, and has begun behaving like Hitler, according to WWII survivors. Do people really think he'd make rational, positive decisions if given presidential power? I'd rather see him sent off to some remote island where he can film bad reality shows no one will watch.


Sound anything like any other presidents you know? Trump is literally just a Republican Obama -- maybe a little more outspoken, but they're the same candidate. Fringe outsider pulls a coup of the party, dominates the media, and polarizes the country. Don's got more leadership experience but Obama sounds better when he talks, so I think it evens out. They're the same guy. Everyone losing their minds over how he could even be a candidate -- this is how Obama feels to the rest of us. I'm enjoying the turnabout, but I honestly don't want another Obama even if he's on my side.
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Sound anything like any other presidents you know? Trump is literally just a Republican Obama -- maybe a little more outspoken, but they're the same candidate. Fringe outsider pulls a coup of the party, dominates the media, and polarizes the country. Don's got more leadership experience but Obama sounds better when he talks, so I think it evens out. They're the same guy. Everyone losing their minds over how he could even be a candidate -- this is how Obama feels to the rest of us. I'm enjoying the turnabout, but I honestly don't want another Obama even if he's on my side.


Obama was fairly par for the course as far as candidates go career wise. He was a Senator. Senators and Governors seem to be the normal pool of experience for Presidential candidates. In the current line-up we have Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Rick Santorum, and Bernie Sanders running as people who's main line of experience comes from Senatorial careers. Of those, Cruz has only been in the senate as long as Obama was before he became President, and Rubio and Paul just two years more. And all, Obama included, had longer careers within their own states. The experience argument against Obama made sense in 2008 within the context of Obama vs Clinton, and then again with Obama vs McCain, where he was running against veterans of the national political scene. But when that comparison is made against Trump, it's rather silly.

With Trump, his political experience amounts to running in the same circles as important politicians, a few failed presidential campaigns, and being the leading voice in the birther movement. I actually went back through a list of pre-Presidential careers to see who was the last President to have held neither public office nor military command before ascending to the oval office, and this is the thing: it hasn't happened yet. If Trump were elected, he would be the first president to have never held either public or military office beforehand.

But that isn't even it. The real reason most people are at a loss for words about his presidency comes down to public image. Most people think of Trump as that guy who has tabloid relationships and hosts a corny reality show. When he isn't doing that, he is feuding with celebrities. That's not only the reason for people panicking over his candidacy, but also it is the reason that other people like him so much. He represents tossing a grenade straight into DC.

For me, I am not freaked out by the idea of a Trump presidency. Hell, if this ends up being a Trump vs Clinton match-up i'll probably vote third party again. Trump is a wild card. Hard to tell what he would do. But with absolutely no relevant experience, he is an irresponsible choice. I think the Republican Party knows this too. They are already walking a tightrope in balancing dissatisfied old-blood Republicans on one hand and dissatisfied young-blood Republicans on the other. Last thing they need is Trump to embarrass their party and mess things up even more for them.

I think the appropriate comparison for a left-wing version of Trump would be if Bill Maher ran for president. That gives you a good idea of how left-wingers see this.
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The good thing here is that Trump can't win. If he ends up as the Republican candidate, then he doesn't get ANY independent voters, who are the only reason we have had presidents from both parties. If Bernie is the Democratic candidate, then Bloomberg runs and most likely gets quite a few Republican voters because he's not Trump. Honestly, in a Trump vs. Sanders race, Bloomberg wins. All of Clinton's supporters would immediately switch to him, and a bunch of Republicans would as well. In a Trump vs. Clinton race, independents choose Clinton and she wins.

So in other words, we either get another old, moderate white guy as President, or we get to have our first female president. Too bad there would never be another one, because the US would presumably erupt in Civil War because Hillary seems to think that it's perfectly logical to just confiscate firearms despite the fact that they're ingrained in America culture and also protected by the constitution. Then again, maybe Hillary will just be generally incompetent instead of Civil War-level divisive. Because we all know damn well that at least half of what she says is just taken out of the latest Democratic opinion poll.
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