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Name: Marc Spector AKA Moon Knight AKA too many aliases to list

Alignment: Sees himself as Lawful Good. Others may disagree.

Affiliation: Currently None

History: Marc Spector had often felt like the only thing he was good for was hitting people. He'd started developing that particular talent as a young, first on the streets and then in some less-than-legal prize-fighting rings. With his fists and pent up rage coupled with sheer bloody-minded determination he was able to pull himself and his brother Rand up out of poverty. It was in that same state of mind that he signed up for the Marines as soon as he was legally able, since the military would at least let him keep fighting people for money without worrying about a raid from the cops cutting his brother off from his only means of financial support.

Spector found that he took to war zones and conflict like a natural and he wasn't the only one who'd noticed. Within two years he'd been scouted by the CIA and retrained as a field operative, traveling the world at the behest of the government wherever the danger and intrigue was thickest. It was good work if not particularly honest and Marc was considered one of the agency's best and brightest. He was even able to strike up a real if covert relationship with a fellow operative by the name of Lisa with whom he regularly worked. In a life that had mostly been made up of drifting aimlessly from one fight to the next, it was about as close to stable and happy as Marc Spector had gotten.

That all changed on a mission where Marc and Lisa were tasked with tracking down the leader of a massive arms trafficking organization hiding out in Italy. To Marc's shock, the arms dealer they were after was revealed to be his brother Rand who had turned to crime in his long absence. Taking advantage of Marc's hesitation Rand was able to kill Lisa with a hatchet and escape. Enraged by his lover's death and his brother's corruption, Marc hunted Rand for four days before blowing him up with a hand grenade and leaving him for dead. Overcome by the loss of both of the people he cared most about, he resigned from the intelligence community and turned his skills and considerable personal traumas to mercenary work.


Perhaps he wanted to die or maybe just keep fighting until the world hurt as much as he did, but whatever his motivations Marc Spector threw himself into every warzone, brush-fire conflict, and insurgency he could possibly get involved in, the more danger the better. He was rescued from himself by an unlikely companion, fellow mercenary Paul-Jean DuChamp, or "Frenchie" as Marc soon began calling him. Frenchie insisted on befriending Spector and keeping him alive despite his death-wish and in time the two became the closest of friends and partners for life. Together they survived numerous battlefields and with a little bit of wise investing, Marc became one very rich mercenary though he continued on in further pursuit of the almighty dollar and out of friendship to DuChamp. Another short if influential friendship came in the form of a younger mercenary, actually a traveling Bruce Wayne seeking to learn unconventional warfare tactics. Though Marc rejected him at first, the young man proved his worth over time and Marc and Frenchie began teaching him the ways of guerilla war. Ultimately Bruce even took a bullet meant for Spector during a particularly dangerous ambush, not only cementing their bond but somewhat reigniting Spector's belief in honest altruism and sacrifice. The two patched up their wounds and Marc even offered Bruce a permanent stake in their band, but the younger man turned him down and they amiably parted ways. It was shortly after this that Marc took the job that would change him forever.

Marc stayed in Egypt to sign on to the larger crew of Raoul Bushman, a much more violent mercenary who killed for the fun of it as much for the money, though he paid incredibly well. Unfortunately for Marc, Bushman had his eyes set on plundering a recently uncovered temple to the ancient Egyptian god Khonshu. He began threatening and killing the archaeological dig site's crew and Spector stepped in to defend them. This didn't turn out particularly well for him as it ended with Bushman defeating Spector and leaving him to die at the collapsing altar of the ancient moon god. As he passed into death, Marc Spector received a vision of Khonshu that told him if he accepted an offer to become the god's champion he would resurrect him and make him more than he was. Marc accepted and awoke to find that he was able to escape the collapsed temple, then took revenge on Bushman and saw him imprisoned.

Feeling a new-found sense of purpose as Khonshu whispered words of justice and vengeance to come in his ear, Marc Spector returned to New York and established an identity as wealthy financier, philanthropist and defense contractor Steven Grant using his invested wealth as a mercenary and the treasures of Khonshu to finance a one-man crusade in the name of his new God, with Duchamp along as his pilot and 'bodyguard'. He had become a ghost of the moon, a specter of vengeance raised by Khonshu, the Moon Knight! He also went about establishing numerous other identities, all to serve the god for whom he functioned as an avatar, though in truth all of this may just be a delusion caused by a horrible life and being temporarily dead and he tends to lose himself in the roles he occupies.

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Alignment: Sees himself as Lawful Good. Others may disagree.


I mean, that's Lawful Good in a nutshell, yeah? My understanding is that Lawful is less about following society's laws and more about having a strict code that guides one's choices.
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My power is currently out at the moment.. So I can't post my Nightcrawler CS. It should be up in a few hours though once my power is back on. You know you're on a tornado watch when the damn WIND is the thing knocking out your power.
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I mean, that's Lawful Good in a nutshell, yeah? My understanding is that Lawful is less about following society's laws and more about having a strict code that guides one's choices.


That's true although some people do insist on a narrower interpretation of it meaning 'society's laws'. The debate is probably more about if he should be considered 'good' given his methods and the fact that he's potentially just violently insane instead of following the mandates of a god of justice, vengeance and protection. He looks in the mirror and sees a paladin, other people look at him and might just see a guy yelling nonsense and waving weapons around.
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Alignments are a complicated endeavor; but Moon Knight is certainly following the "Crusader" or "Zealot" archetype of Lawful Good so I wouldn't contest the assertion. Where Marc sees a unyielding knight of justice and punishment (as a sort of judge) he acts within convictions that are good. The judgments are just... brutal.
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"Others may disagree" was just a joke about him being particularly brutal and at times unstable anyways.

Though this all does make me wonder how he'd interact with say, the Punishers, as people with somewhat similar backgrounds but in his eyes a lot less justification and the like.
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You know, I meant hero, walking the line, and villain for that alignment section but people ran with Chaotic Good, Neutral Good, Lawful Good thing and by then it was too late. So don't worry about it too much.
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I just followed the herd like a sheep. Going "Don't leave me behind!"

Baaa

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@Morden Man Here he is. Let me know if I need to change anything. I'm also going to mention @Blue Demon in case you get Cap and want to change some things in history and relationships. Same to @Lord Wraith for Batman stuffs.


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Alexander Joseph "Lex" Luthor

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This version of Lex is born in Metropolis itself instead of his normal early origin of Kansas. Other than that he is still pretty much the same guy. Well except for the fact that he created the Justice League.
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Can we cut the Magneto stuff? I'm also not very fond of the Mercy/Lex thing either - it seems a little tad unsophisticated for Lex.

Your Lex reads a little too "Mwahaha!" evil. Too Norman Osborn in Dark Avengers. I'm not sure whether you ever read it but I think Lex at this stage is more Helmut Zemo in the Thunderbolts. He's been funding the world's premier super team for several years and whilst it began as a ploy to spite Superman there's a part of him that is beginning to enjoy the adulation. Rubbing shoulders with Captain America has rubbed off on him more than he'd like.

Ultimately he's still Lex and when push comes to shove he's still going to be the same old Lex. But... don't be afraid to have a little fun with him being in charge of the JLA. A little uncertainty is a good thing.
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I know I'm just a player, but my opinion of the whole "Lex secretly is behind the MRA and Kelly didn't come up with it himself" bothers me. It kind of takes away Kelly's political climate and tries too hard to make Lex behind everything morally unscrupulous. Not a fan.
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So the Doctor Doom application is totally complete now, it's on page 7 :) Enjoy the sample.

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Can we cut the Magneto stuff? I'm also not very fond of the Mercy/Lex thing either - it seems a little tad unsophisticated for Lex.

Your Lex reads a little too "Mwahaha!" evil. Too Norman Osborn in Dark Avengers. I'm not sure whether you ever read it but I think Lex at this stage is more Helmut Zemo in the Thunderbolts. He's been funding the world's premier super team for several years and whilst it began as a ploy to spite Superman there's a part of him that is beginning to enjoy the adulation. Rubbing shoulders with Captain America has rubbed off on him more than he'd like.

Ultimately he's still Lex and when push comes to shove he's still going to be the same old Lex. But... don't be afraid to have a little fun with him being in charge of the JLA. A little uncertainty is a good thing.

Well I mean, Lex IS a bad guy. He is the bad guy that everyone thinks is a good guy, sure he is leading the Justice League but he is Lex Luthor. He's doing it to further his agenda. I can dial it down some I guess but I'm not going to play Lex as a good guy or a "misunderstood" business man. He's selfish and doing what he thinks will further grow his power, that's who he is. I plan to have all his criminal stuff blow up in his face, lose the Justice League, go full evil, truly try to redeem himself and become a better person, fall back into old habits. I don't want him to be bleeding heart redemption story yet when he hasn't been beaten into that or have a life changing experience for that to happen.

I know I'm just a player, but my opinion of the whole "Lex secretly is behind the MRA and Kelly didn't come up with it himself" bothers me. It kind of takes away Kelly's political climate and tries too hard to make Lex behind everything morally unscrupulous. Not a fan.


That was really more of a "hey maybe we should do something about these mutants" thing than a "here is my plan on getting rid of these people, you should do it or I murder your family" thing. Maybe the bullet point history didn't convey that well.
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I know I'm just a player, but my opinion of the whole "Lex secretly is behind the MRA and Kelly didn't come up with it himself" bothers me.


Your own opinion bothers you? That's...not really something we can help you with.

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So I missed a ton of OOC pages and I don't want to wade through them. Has anyone applied for Flash yet?
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Well I mean, Lex IS a bad guy. He is the bad guy that everyone thinks is a good guy, sure he is leading the Justice League but he is Lex Luthor. He's doing it to further his agenda. I can dial it down some I guess but I'm not going to play Lex as a good guy or a "misunderstood" business man. He's selfish and doing what he thinks will further grow his power, that's who he is. I plan to have all his criminal stuff blow up in his face, lose the Justice League, go full evil, truly try to redeem himself and become a better person, fall back into old habits. I don't want him to be bleeding heart redemption story yet when he hasn't been beaten into that or have a life changing experience for that to happen.


If you play Lex without an ounce of nuance all you're going to do is play a caricature of Lex.

You have to bear in mind that Lex himself doesn't consider himself a bad guy - he thinks he's a good guy. Nobody walks around thinking they're a bad guy (except maybe Thanos) otherwise they wouldn't do anything at all. Nobody is suggesting you play Lex as a hero. Just that you remember in his own story he is the protagonist and that at this point in the story he's at the top of his game. The Justice League are the undisputed premier superhero team in the world and LexCorp is doing well.

You have an opportunity to do something other than Superfriends Lex. Make use of it.
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So I missed a ton of OOC pages and I don't want to wade through them. Has anyone applied for Flash yet?


No one has submitted a CS for Flash no. Talked about it yes.
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So I missed a ton of OOC pages and I don't want to wade through them. Has anyone applied for Flash yet?


As far as I know, not yet.
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No one has submitted any CS for Flash no. Talked about it yes.


Doesn't surprise me. You fuckers are all talk, no action!
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Doesn't surprise me. You fuckers are all talk, no action!




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