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Heh. Even so, creative thinking.

Originally, Mai's mother was simply going to be a random NPC called "Maria "Angel" Twilight". During the early parts of the war, she was one of a handful of pilots that achieved 100% perfect synchro as well as a special power. I could elaborate more but it's a bit of a spoiler that I want to clear with Ariamis first. I did briefly talk to him about it in the other RP but things didn't get that far for me to introduce it into that RP.


Well, here's the thing after talking with Ariamis...

You can keep the character if you want to as is. (Barring adapting the sheet, I've seen some obsolete fields). Be warned though, there's already a clone child program with stoic loony kids. We'll have to do some juggling and hope it doesn't explode in our faces.

Although I'm willing to haggle to avoid the duplicity as much as possible. We could try making a clone of the same faildoll program, but well, most of them if not all blew up.

...Or streamline it a bit and make her simply a gruff child of an ace pilot. To be honest she could be a good addition with the streamlined bits. (no special program, no special powers).
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Okay-Dokey, I'm all caught up again. So woot, we did it! And if anybody is still up for a collaboration, I am available! Though probably not for another 9-10 hours, and only for a few hours after that. Let me know, maybe just rp via pm and one of us can flush it out and post it?
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Well, here's the thing after talking with Ariamis...

You can keep the character if you want to as is. (Barring adapting the sheet, I've seen some obsolete fields). Be warned though, there's already a clone child program with stoic loony kids. We'll have to do some juggling and hope it doesn't explode in our faces.

Although I'm willing to haggle to avoid the duplicity as much as possible. We could try making a clone of the same faildoll program, but well, most of them if not all blew up.

...Or streamline it a bit and make her simply a gruff child of an ace pilot. To be honest she could be a good addition with the streamlined bits. (no special program, no special powers).


Hmm...well let's see how it goes. Knowing Ariamis though, he'd probably like to suggest something for Mai.

This is sort of a spoiler but not official so don't worry about this part.

Though I have some idea's myself. For one, the Division Mai was from I had planned. It had a name called "Hell Six". It was supposed to be a boogyman story of sorts. The story was that any cadet's who didn't behave or kept dissrespecting their superiors were sent there as punishment. The scientist there "Caulder" (do a search for "Advance Wars: Days of Ruin" to see a picture of his namesake) was a cruel type but one that made even Lorenzo look like a cute puppy in comparison (if that's even possible -___-'). Caulder believed that human feelings only distracted pilots so he took in cadets that either were offsprings to highly skilled pilots or any he knew that could handle the extreme physical and mental demands of his division. The interesting "twist" I was thinking was that despite all this, there were never any "deaths" in his division though he only took in "six" cadets at any time. Though he had made an exception with Mai (hence her middle name "Seven") because she showed lots of potential and perhaps her special ability like her mother Maria.

My idea was to sort of make him a seperate bad guy since he didn't like the direction the other divisions were going to protect humanity. Perhaps he even didn't like the "cloning" program in this case.

Eh...wow I said alot here -____-'. Well anyways, just shooting ideas with what to do with Mai's past.
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@Evil Snowman want to colab?
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Man, collab posts take a lot of time.
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So are we going to say that all the new pilots are transfers from other units?
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I'd say transfers for the sake of consistency.
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Hmm...well let's see how it goes. Knowing Ariamis though, he'd probably like to suggest something for Mai.

This is sort of a spoiler but not official so don't worry about this part.

Though I have some idea's myself. For one, the Division Mai was from I had planned. It had a name called "Hell Six". It was supposed to be a boogyman story of sorts. The story was that any cadet's who didn't behave or kept dissrespecting their superiors were sent there as punishment. The scientist there "Caulder" (do a search for "Advance Wars: Days of Ruin" to see a picture of his namesake) was a cruel type but one that made even Lorenzo look like a cute puppy in comparison (if that's even possible -___-'). Caulder believed that human feelings only distracted pilots so he took in cadets that either were offsprings to highly skilled pilots or any he knew that could handle the extreme physical and mental demands of his division. The interesting "twist" I was thinking was that despite all this, there were never any "deaths" in his division though he only took in "six" cadets at any time. Though he had made an exception with Mai (hence her middle name "Seven") because she showed lots of potential and perhaps her special ability like her mother Maria.

My idea was to sort of make him a seperate bad guy since he didn't like the direction the other divisions were going to protect humanity. Perhaps he even didn't like the "cloning" program in this case.

Eh...wow I said alot here -____-'. Well anyways, just shooting ideas with what to do with Mai's past.

Ariamis delegated this task unto me, as a heads up.

In my honest opinion, only so much grim stuff can be put before it loops back and seems silly. Less is more. Plus, i would say it would be more enjoyable to actually make collabs with fellow players rather than focusing on Rival Subplot #34. Just my two cents, really. We need all sorts of people, not just cold elites and boogeymen.

Fellow players, any thoughts on this regard?
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Well...if personality is the problem, I could go with a split personality approach. Have Mai be the normal persona but have Seven be the trained killer.
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Ariamis delegated this task unto me, as a heads up.

In my honest opinion, only so much grim stuff can be put before it loops back and seems silly. Less is more. Plus, i would say it would be more enjoyable to actually make collabs with fellow players rather than focusing on Rival Subplot #34. Just my two cents, really. We need all sorts of people, not just cold elites and boogeymen.

Fellow players, any thoughts on this regard?


I am all for agency in character design, though it is good to have variation. We do have quite a lot of 'stone cold' characters though.

However, I would note that split personality could be an decent mix. Would be pretty interesting development wise if the differences were extreme, and the 'regular' persona was... less than happy... with her 'combat' self.
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Ariamis delegated this task unto me, as a heads up.

In my honest opinion, only so much grim stuff can be put before it loops back and seems silly. Less is more. Plus, i would say it would be more enjoyable to actually make collabs with fellow players rather than focusing on Rival Subplot #34. Just my two cents, really. We need all sorts of people, not just cold elites and boogeymen.

Fellow players, any thoughts on this regard?


@DarkRecon Gonna throw this in here so you see my opinion

There's reason for me to believe why it work for Sigma, but not for "Seven". With Sigma, the only really dramatic thing about her is that she had been trained brutally and is a clone. That's simple, and effective. With "Seven" though, it goes a step too far. 'Hell Six' is a little too edgy with the whole 'Worse than Lorenzo' character (which, I've never like Lorenzo as a character concept even in the original EoD) being the reason she became that way. Also, being the daughter of an ace pilot with special powers gives me the wrong vibe. Don't get me wrong, it can be done well, but this all gives off a very special snowflakey vibe to me. Sigma doesn't really have any of that, and you could argue the only reason she's here in the first place is by fluke.

Split personality is also... iffy. There's a psychological test, and someone who can switch their personality on the fly is a dangerous one indeed. Contrast with Serah, who passed it due to the fact she forces on a mask at all times but is still the same person in the end. Jut because she pretends to be someone else doesn't mean she IS someone else, which Seven is.

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@Mr Rage sure mate but it'll have to be after work.
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Ugh...it's sounding like I should change Mai into some uptight jerk considering all other types of perona's are already taken. Hard to be original...lovely <_<
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Ugh...it's sounding like I should change Mai into some uptight jerk considering all other types of perona's are already taken. Hard to be original...lovely <_<


Well, to be honest, an uppity knowitall who's the daughter of an ace and shoves her pilot daughter swag to everyone would be fun to see.
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@Mr Rage I'm home now and will be up for several hours if you get on poke me and I'll happily start a colab with you.
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Well, to be honest, an uppity knowitall who's the daughter of an ace and shoves her pilot daughter swag to everyone would be fun to see.


That...could be a good idea but I have trouble RPing as...arrogant or "higher than thou" types. The split personality that I metion. And I thought about a serious type but she holds a grudge against the framework divisions, especially Lorenzo, because she believes that they pushed her mom so hard that the story she heard was that she committed suiside. Eh. I'm sure there's someone like that in the group already but yeah, someone who doesn't take orders from guys like Lorenzo well.
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Someone who doesn't take orders from guys like Lorenzo well.


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That...could be a good idea but I have trouble RPing as...arrogant or "higher than thou" types. The split personality that I metion. And I thought about a serious type but she holds a grudge against the framework divisions, especially Lorenzo, because she believes that they pushed her mom so hard that the story she heard was that she committed suiside. Eh. I'm sure there's someone like that in the group already but yeah, someone who doesn't take orders from guys like Lorenzo well.


What purpose does the split personality serve? I am sorry but from what I have seen, that tends to annoy more than actually work.

Ah well. At this point I am going to say, you have an approved character, so you are free to play already. But we do not commit ourselves to expand any plot hooks you may have had with that character.

I also strongly reccomend that you forget about tweaking Mai and start from scratch a new character, if you wish to avoid the duplicity I mentioned. And avoid split personalities and disobedience. That won't end well. Before the first battle, even.
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What purpose does the split personality serve? I am sorry but from what I have seen, that tends to annoy more than actually work.

Ah well. At this point I am going to say, you have an approved character, so you are free to play already. But we do not commit ourselves to expand any plot hooks you may have had with that character.

I also strongly reccomend that you forget about tweaking Mai and start from scratch a new character, if you wish to avoid the duplicity I mentioned. And avoid split personalities and disobedience. That won't end well. Before the first battle, even.


Yeah I've already asked Ariamis about this. Since her personal history and such is pretty much up in the air, figured he could do something to fit it into whatever plots he has in mind since it seems like anything I come up with at this point is...annoying everyone here -______-'
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Yeah I've already asked Ariamis about this. Since her personal history and such is pretty much up in the air, figured he could do something to fit it into whatever plots he has in mind since it seems like anything I come up with at this point is...annoying everyone here -______-'


Well, this is GM's work, so it's okay. Let's move onto PMs, shall we?
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