@Doubleits cool dude. Real life has a habit of screwing things up. Hope it gets better for you

I apologize for my tone and anger in general. Some real life frustrations are bleeding into how I interact here and that's not fair to you guys. So again, I apologize profusely, and beg forgiveness for any of the vulgar or venomous things I've said.

I'm not the one having the disagreement here, but I've gotta say that a conscious return to levelheadedness is always appreciated. Not everyone has the maturity and self-awareness to recognize when it's best to stay calm. All good, man. I'm sure there are no hard feelings.

@The Kid Lantern

If by standard human weaknesses you mean drowning, fire, bullets, etc, then yes. The physical Force thing is always on, but in terms of protecting her it doesn't do that much. It only works against projectiles, and even then it doesn't have that large of an effect. Also yes, It would still be on whilst she slept.

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Whoa, hold the phone. You're making the RP take place in a single location, despite advertising it as a UNIVERSE BUILDING endeavor? You fucking liar. No seriously, why the hell would you want aliens and other big universe concepts if YOU'RE NOT EVEN GONNA FUCKING USE THEM? And no, the single edit wasn't the deal breaker. The deal breaker was you constantly assuming that he's some unstoppable God simply because he doesn't have a million crippling weaknesses. Do you even know me? Because I thought you kind of did, have I ever been the kind of player to just blatantly power play like that, like have you EVER known me to do that? I'm beginning to think that you don't actually know what the term "overpowered" really means. Overpowered means having dozens of powers and secondary powers while only having one or two weaknesses (eg Superman). Zandar is not that powerful, like at all. He has some strength (not even super strength, he's just a bit stronger than your average humanoid would be) and scaly skin that makes him a bit tougher to hurt (not even that much tougher since it's really no different than Killer-fucking-Croc). That's all he actually has, those are his only natural abilities. So, with so little in the way of natural abilities why the fuck should I have to give him so many crippling natural weaknesses? The suit? The Lancer? The ship? That's all outside tech from Star Force. Those are all objects that can be stolen, hacked, damaged, and otherwise used by someone else if they got their hands on them. Isn't that in and of itself a pretty self-explanatory weakness? Hell, the uniform isn't even powerful at all, it's a glorified spacesuit, not the fucking Iron Man armor! But sure, let's just call your concerns valid, why not. It's not like you already have characters who are insanely stronger than Zandar is and who could kill him simply enough... OH WAIT!

I apologize for my tone and anger in general. Some real life frustrations are bleeding into how I interact here and that's not fair to you guys. So again, I apologize profusely, and beg forgiveness for any of the vulgar or venomous things I've said.

I'm just gonna be short and simple with the most of this because I'm completely shocked at how you've handled the situation. I thought I did know you, we've been in several RP's together over the course of the last couple years and for most of it I've never had a problem. I had one problem with the CS, and it's my right as a GM not to blindly accept character sheets as they are without criticism. One problem, the weaknesses, which if you'd have simply given him another weakness or described that his armor had it's flaws in the CS... it would have been accepted. Any other time I've had a problem with a CS of yours we've came to terms and agreed on this or that, this time you chose to cuss at somebody and call their entire game and it's setting into question. From the original iCheck, for anybody who missed it....

... We'll also likely come up with an original universe equivalent of NYC or Astro City so that most of the heroes can be neighbors somewhat defending smaller areas of a much larger city.

~KL~

The group decided on New Athens, I just fleshed it out a little more. For the record I wanted to build the universe somewhat beyond Earth, hence the two Alien Archetypes as well as the Alien Outlaw. But still, it's apparent the most of the game's setting would still be New Athens, especially with this in the opening summary...

In New Athens, a hero is made every day and a villain every night.

If somebody had submitted a CS with the note their character is based in Thailand it wouldn't have been accepted. For the obvious reason. If that was my only problem with the theoretical CS, and it was edited, then more than likely it would've been accepted. This guy from Star Force has a natural power set cause he's an alien, another set of abilities granted by the suit, and then only one weakness listed. I had no problems with the rest of the sheet dude, despite the BRIEF Bio being anything but brief.

I have no hard feelings about this, but I'm also not the type to let somebody punch me in the face and then be dumb enough to immediately let them in my home. If you're having real life problems, then by all means deal with them and come back in a week or so if you want to submit the CS again with the edits. Personally... I'm in debt, behind on my rent, have no health insurance, I'm raising a six year old, just fell back on a dead end job, etc. and I've NEVER got on here and talked to somebody with the kind of disrespect you've shown. This is the ONLY time I'll let something like this slide, ever, for anybody I've RP'ed with in the past. Take a breather, get back to me sometime next week, and we'll talk about you getting in on this.

~KL~

@The Kid Lantern

If by standard human weaknesses you mean drowning, fire, bullets, etc, then yes. The physical Force thing is always on, but in terms of protecting her it doesn't do that much. It only works against projectiles, and even then it doesn't have that large of an effect. Also yes, It would still be on whilst she slept.

Yeah, if you don't mind would you put that into the CS?

I'm gonna get caught up on reading the IC and maybe try and get another post up. At some point Shayd is gonna hit the scene hard...

~KL~

I gotta ask, where is everyone making those avatar things?

I gotta ask, where is everyone making those avatar things?

Kid Lantern made most of them himself!

@The Kid Lantern

Added to the CS, I'll try and get an IC post up tomorrow.

If somebody had submitted a CS with the note their character is based in Thailand it wouldn't have been accepted. For the obvious reason. If that was my only problem with the theoretical CS, and it was edited, then more than likely it would've been accepted. This guy from Star Force has a natural power set cause he's an alien, another set of abilities granted by the suit, and then only one weakness listed. I had no problems with the rest of the sheet dude, despite the BRIEF Bio being anything but brief.

~KL~

You're doing it again. You're just automatically assuming that he's some supersoldier god when I just got done explaining how and why that isn't the case. You keep using the words "power set" as if him having above average strength and toughness (coming more from his job and background than his species) means he's the Hulk when I've said multiple times that that's not the case. At all. Okay, you know want to know what this character is? Like, an actual honest-to-god-perfect example of what this character is? Well, he's this guy:



You know, that reptilian bounty hunter that was in like half a scene in Empire Strikes Back? A character who does not have any super strength, super durability, and literally just flies around the galaxy in a ship, his main weapons of choices being various types of blaster guns. That's what Zandar was supposed to be. Nothing more. I don't know why you're continuously assuming that he's more than that, but it's becoming very tiresome hearing the same crap over and over again. Like I said, I'm not going to bother continuing with this because it's long since passed the point of being worth the energy and effort to do so.

@Double I didn't say he was a god, I simply requested another weakness be added to the CS or for the flaws in the armor or it's strength be made clearer in the CS. @Carlsberg didn't feel the need to cuss somebody and simply made an edit. Again, I'm still shocked you're taking it so personal.

It's my place as a GM to critique the Character Sheets. If I've got a problem with it, change it, or quit wasting everyone's time.

~KL~

@The Kid Lantern You don't have to say it, you're implying it strongly enough. You just flat out ignore the multitude of times where I try to explain that he has no actual powers. Why should someone with no real powers outside of a space cop uniform and a blaster gun have more than one crippling weakness? You're basically asking someone to change Star-Lord to being weak to Kryptonite even though it's not necessary because he's just a dude in a spaceship and nothing more. But I've long since given up on this. You've made it absolutely clear that you have no intention of listening to logic, plus this suddenly becoming a generic "superhero team in generic Earth city" instead of the big, open-world universe the iCheck promised pretty much killed whatever interest I had. Good day, sir.

@Double A shame that you have to leave. I personally liked the character and saw no problems with him whatsoever. Again, if I were you, I could've just put him simply as mortal or just overpowering him as a weakness. Afterall, that's pretty much the main weakness for Sentinel anyways. (Or if anything, maybe something for the armor perhaps? Like a power time limit? Just an idea though)

Again, I'm not exactly sure what's going on between you and the GM, for I really don't see any problems with the guy. With all do respect @The Kid Lantern, I say the character is fine as is.

That is only if you, Double, still have a bit of interest yet. If not, I bid you my farewell and hopefully you may give it another shot some other time.

@The Kid Lantern You don't have to say it, you're implying it strongly enough. You just flat out ignore the multitude of times where I try to explain that he has no actual powers. Why should someone with no real powers outside of a space cop uniform and a blaster gun have more than one crippling weakness? You're basically asking someone to change Star-Lord to being weak to Kryptonite even though it's not necessary because he's just a dude in a spaceship and nothing more. But I've long since given up on this. You've made it absolutely clear that you have no intention of listening to logic, plus this suddenly becoming a generic "superhero team in generic Earth city" instead of the big, open-world universe the iCheck promised pretty much killed whatever interest I had. Good day, sir.

Instead of explaining it time and again on here, a simple edit to the CS in Weaknesses would've sufficed. Doesn't do anybody a damn bit of good if they have to go through pages of OOC chatter to find how one player described the weaknesses to their character.

By all means though, good day sir. I'm done with this whole back and forth. I've still got reading to do...

~KL~

When the fighting starts:

@Jotunn Draugr Hey, shit happens sometimes lol.

Did I just stumble across the republican primary debates? Lol (Im a republican)

I'm a republican

I'm a smoker.

Looks like we all have our own shortcomings ;)

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I'm a smoker.

Looks like we all have our own shortcomings ;)

Hay At least I don't require a safe space for my feelings lol I piss off a lot of my friends when I disgree with their angry rants and try to be civil

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Hay At least I don't require a safe space for my feelings lol I piss off a lot of my friends when I disgree with their angry rants and try to be civil

Lol was just teasing. I agree completely. Unfortunately, I'm disqualified from being a republican, on account of being Canadian........

*cough*Ted Cruz*cough*

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Lol was just teasing. I agree completely. Unfortunately, I'm disqualified from being a republican, on account of being Canadian........

*cough*Ted Cruz*cough*

No offense, but your prime minister gives me the fucking creeps. He sounds like a character from a George Orwell novel to me and my girlfriend's mom likes him, which is a big red flag for since she's a psycho liberal