@Hael I do like the sound of the "Hands of Evolution". Let's go with that :)

I shall add them in the sheet.

My point is: sure, ban it for how OP it is, but don't ban it for how unrealistic it is, because it's more realistic than a hell of a lot of other techs you've approved. That was just an example, and I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job it's just, well as Lauder said, it bothers me.

Edit: and sorry if I sounded rude I didn't mean to. I've just rewritten that like 8 times and I gave up and just sent what I had.

xD Don't worry about it.

I mean, I entirely disagree with you, but that's fine- we can disagree.

@Hael You confuse me, but for the sake of not starting an argument that will accomplish naught but worsen things, I'll just leave it. Maybe later we can respectfully debate it but for now I'm too bothered to trust myself to. xD

@Hael You confuse me, but for the sake of not starting an argument that will accomplish naught but worsen things, I'll just leave it. Maybe later we can respectfully debate it but for now I'm too bothered to trust myself to. xD

If you want to PM me about it and discuss it there, we can talk about it, but I'd rather not fill the OOC with any more debate. That's why I was just going to leave it with "we can disagree"

Alright, added the "Hands of Evolution" in my sheet.

Alright, added the "Hands of Evolution" in my sheet.

Terrorists, aye? Wonderful. The Xim will offer them all political asylum and free modifications!

Now I feel bad because the Hierophant of the Mur-Po is kind of immortal-ey, though being the ego-maniacal leader of the Mur-Po race he (it?) is basically the most taken-care-of and important person in the Ascendancy; also he is going insane from his body's rejection of cybernetic implants.

Hope that between that, espers, and insane kamikaze bioships I haven't gone too far! Though with whatever questionable tech I have I do try and counterbalance it with some pretty huge downsides. The first il-ship destroyed a moon and devastated a planet and are effectively uncontrollable and weak even now after over a century of further research. Powerful, but with some big-time disadvantages; and furthermore, they don't form a big part of the Mur-Po military (at least, not yet), and a big part of their usage comes from surprise. They're glass cannons, effectively.

Speaking of, would anyone have any interest in having some dealings with the Mur-Po at some point in the future?

Now I feel bad because the Hierophant of the Mur-Po is kind of immortal-ey, though being the ego-maniacal leader of the Mur-Po race he (it?) is basically the most taken-care-of and important person in the Ascendancy; also he is going insane from his body's rejection of cybernetic implants.

Hope that between that, espers, and insane kamikaze bioships I haven't gone too far! Though with whatever questionable tech I have I do try and counterbalance it with some pretty huge downsides. The first il-ship destroyed a moon and devastated a planet and are effectively uncontrollable and weak even now after over a century of further research. Powerful, but with some big-time disadvantages; and furthermore, they don't form a big part of the Mur-Po military (at least, not yet), and a big part of their usage comes from surprise. They're glass cannons, effectively.

Speaking of, would anyone have any interest in having some dealings with the Mur-Po at some point in the future?

My question is what is the average lifespan of the Mur-Po?

My question is what is the average lifespan of the Mur-Po?

The average male or female Mur-Po will usually live to around two hundred years, though many die in combat earlier than that; however, it is not unheard of to see certain Mur-Po live to two hundred and fifty or even three hundred, depending on their lifestyles. So, generally, between two hundred and three hundred is the average lifespan.

The neuter sex, however, is much shorter lived, usually dying between thirty and forty years of age, but this is due to the pangs of the many births they bring to term in their lifetimes, and their general living conditions. They are generally more or less brain dead, although their sexual organs and motor process function as per normal.

@babbysama
I don't mind an individual being kind of immortal, or close to it. It's an entire nation of immortals that pisses me off

A very long-lived leader is fine. You're all good :)

@Hael

*makes half the X'Cor immortal*

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Terrorists, aye? Wonderful. The Xim will offer them all political asylum and free modifications!

I'm imagining someone shouting "XIMAHU ACKBAR!"

@babbysama
I don't mind an individual being kind of immortal, or close to it. It's an entire nation of immortals that pisses me off

A very long-lived leader is fine. You're all good :)

Makes all but one of the Mabronnans immortal.

@Hael This doesn't really concern me since Ch'ak only has the most rudimentary of AIs, but I don't see how a machine race being unable to naturally reproduce is a downside. It means that while most races have to copulate, gestate, give birth, and then mature this hypothetical machine race would be able to pump out 'adults' on a conveyor belt. Plus hacking could be rather difficult; you'd have to understand how their programming worked and in the case of a sapient or sentient machine it could take a long period of study before you did. Also, that's assuming they're hooked up to anything that would allow you access in the first place.

My first IC post is up.

#godhead #selfie

On the other hand, if you're busy producing more machines, you have to devote a chunk of economy to that, removing the possibility of making something else with that chunk. I'm not sure it's a disadvantage, it's just different. Come to think of it, I'm not sure what the disadvantages of a machine race are. Rust? Complex, non-self-repairing systems that need another being or machine to repair? My imagination isn't used to stretching in this direction. I'm also not really sure what the advantages would be. It's all just different.

Also, hey, we made it past 7 posts. So that's good.

@Hael This doesn't really concern me since Ch'ak only has the most rudimentary of AIs, but I don't see how a machine race being unable to naturally reproduce is a downside. It means that while most races have to copulate, gestate, give birth, and then mature this hypothetical machine race would be able to pump out 'adults' on a conveyor belt. Plus hacking could be rather difficult; you'd have to understand how their programming worked and in the case of a sapient or sentient machine it could take a long period of study before you did. Also, that's assuming they're hooked up to anything that would allow you access in the first place.

You've made a good point with the hacking, but I'm still not entirely convinced that lacking natural reproduction isn't sort of a downside. Afterall, if organic creatures gets stranded on a planet, they would likely be capable of repopulating and spreading if they had enough food. A mechanical race, if stranded, might last for a while but would ultimately not be able to reproduce unless there's a bunch of refined metals and/or mining equipment lying around on that planet. Plus, the factories (or whatever machines are used) to produce the robots would in no way be cheap- they would probably pay themselves off in the long run, but needing to build some for (I assume) most major colonies would be expensive at first, and may even cause debt. This is especially true once you realize that it costs a lot more money/resources to make a high-tech robot/android/drone (metals, circuitry, alloys, etc.) than it does a baby (which just needs to healthy parents to have sex).

On top of that, then machines lack the ability to heal large injuries naturally overtime. An organic creature can heal injuries if they have food and basic needs met, but for machines who are stranded or separated from the group, unless they have some way of creating new parts/materials to replace damaged parts/materials, then the machine is doomed- and it would probably be a lot harder to find advanced mechanics than it would organic food.
In a civilized area (with mines and factories and such), getting those replacement parts and metals might be fairly easy for a damaged machine, but in an uncolonized/uninhabited area, that robot can kiss his artificial well-being goodbye.

On the other hand, if you're busy producing more machines, you have to devote a chunk of economy to that, removing the possibility of making something else with that chunk. I'm not sure it's a disadvantage, it's just different. Come to think of it, I'm not sure what the disadvantages of a machine race are. Rust? Complex, non-self-repairing systems that need another being or machine to repair? My imagination isn't used to stretching in this direction. I'm also not really sure what the advantages would be. It's all just different.

Well, that's part of my point. ASTA and Awarak were arguing that, because machines are immortal/disease-immune, then it should be okay for an organic race to be as well. But I attempted to counter-point that machines are so different that you can't really make that comparison at all, which is why I tried to show how machines have some inherit, sometimes negative differences that organics don't have to deal with, and thus that argument is invalid. It's just too different.

But I suck at conveying my ideas, so it ended up becoming this big debate. xD

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Now, enough about the damn machines!

Also, hey, we made it past 7 posts. So that's good.

Wasn't @Isotope the one that said she saw an RP with complex Nation Sheets die after 7 posts?

Ha, take that, you microbial horror! (Kidding, kidding)

*stuffs three pages worth of Pro-Machine post in storage* :P

Nah, I kid.

Anyway, I wonder what my next post shall be? Maybe something more action-oriented.

Edit: Oh I know! Might do some far off peacekeeping op on some world in that wild space we discussed about.

*stuffs three pages worth of Pro-Machine post in storage* :P

Nah, I kid.

Anyway, I wonder what my next post shall be? Maybe something more action-oriented.

Edit: Oh I know! Might do some far off peacekeeping op on some world in that wild space we discussed about.

Nice!

I like that idea.

My next post will probably be contacting some empires, and building up defenses near the border.

I also might include a terrorist attack from the Hands of Evolution, if you wouldn't mind that.

@Hael I don't mind at all :)