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Vera held her bow proudly. She frowned slightly and tilted her head. "Fighting is how we keep order. Without the war, no one would stay in line," she explained matter-of-factly, just as Fabine had told her. She snorted and added, "So I guess we have as much right to the fish as you do." She sighed when she realized she wasn't proving her point very well, and just huffed, "A Rabin wouldn't understand."

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Jett cringed and looked at her with a forced slight smile. "No, definitely not... Well, I mean I'm sure she wouldn't have... That is, if I were to have... told her...." he gradually trailed off until his words became an ashamed mumble.

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Ambrose shakes his head. "You make no sense." He then grins at her. "You know, I've always found being friendly and helpful to people makes them more likely to listen and abide by whatever rules Sacha or Fabine would lay out." He stretches his arms overhead. "A Rabin? Ah. So you like putting people in boxes. Unlike you, I don't think all Rabins or all Broms are the same. I think you're making a wild assumption about my person based on one small aspect of myself. That doesn't seem fair does it?"

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Both of Li's eyebrows shot up and she sat up straight. "Wait... You didn't tell her? Oh my god dude. You, sir, are a first class jackass." Li chuckled slightly in amazement. "Did you at least send an 'I'm not dead' postcard at some point?"

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Vera sat up straight and snorted, a bit insulted by his jabs. "I'm proud to be a part of the strongest group in this forest, and we certainly didn't get to be that way by being friendly nor helpful," she pointed out, her eyes narrowing. "Fabine is a perfect example of that," she snickered. "He's tough, and not particularly kind as a leader, but he doesn't need any of that to be effective." She found herself becoming extremely impassioned on the subject, and froze. She cleared her throat and pulled back significantly. "Sorry," she said softly.

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Jett held up his hands defensively. "Hey, it's not entirely as bad as it sounds! I just couldn't handle all of the death and destruction I was seeing around me on a day to day basis, especially with the girl I love at the center of it all. But she couldn't bring herself to pull away from the danger of being leader," he shrugged. He paused, and added quickly, "I'm not making excuses, though. I know it was a terrible thing to do... but hopefully she won't be dying to punch me again for the rest of her life," he chuckled, gesturing to his swollen nose with some dried blood from the bloody nose she'd given him when he arrived. "This was my 'welcome back' gift."

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Ambrose grins at her. "No, please continue." He urges. "Tell me how a murderer is the best leader of the forest. Tell me how fear and anger and hate allows you to rule as the best group in the forest. Please, tell me how you guys enjoy killing. Enjoy your....effectiveness." He shrugs at her. "Don't apologize. You're obviously very, wrongly though, proud of your group and that's fine. But please, understand that I disagree with everything you Broms stand for and everything you've done."

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Li laughed. "Well well. You're probably lucky that's all she did." She shrugged before settling back on her hands. "Sacha's no coward. She's not the type to run from this, especially when she has a responsibility to the Rabins. You probably should've mentioned you were leaving though. That might have been nice of you." She glanced over at him before looking up at the sky. "I'm Li, by the way."

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Vera narrowed her eyes coldly. "You know what one of the most human emotions is?" she asked. She continued without waiting for an answer. "Greed. Wanting more. Wanting better. We were all taught that we shouldn't let it influence us, but it's only natural." She shook her head fiercely. "I'm greedy for wanting to be a part of the stronger group. And for wanting to be the Brom second-in-command. And a whole bunch of other stuff, but you know what? You're expecting a little too much out of me if you expect any different," she muttered.

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Jett pulled his knees loosely up to his chest and gazed off towards the forest, his eyes distant. "Yeah. But then again, foresight never was my specialty," he added, glancing at her with the slightly hint of a smile. He nodded and her introduction and extended his hand. "Good to meet you. I'm Jett, and hopefully you can one day believe that I'm not entirely a jackass---at least not all of the time," he smirked.

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"There is no stronger group, don't you get it??" Ambrose sighs heavily, watching the girl. "I think that hate is stronger than greed. Revenge, vengeance, or whatever. If you're driven to disliking someone enough, you'll stop at nothing to see them punished. I think that's stronger than greed." He raises an eyebrow. "Nothing's wrong with wanting to be second-in-command, so why don't you try harder to get that?" He then grins. "Are you weak? Archers tend to be pretty weak."

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Vera gritted her teeth with frustration as he ranted back at her. She clenched her fists and snarled at him, "Try harder, you say?" She let out a huff of anger and growled, "Fabine is the leader, and there's no impressing him." She froze the instant he called her weak, and her eyes narrowed to slits. "Maybe I couldn't wrestle a brawler to the ground, but I can send an arrow through their face so fast they'll never even see the whites of my eyes," she hissed.

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Li took the offered hand with a grin. "I wouldn't worry about that. I'm sure you'll find that I excell at being a jackass. One of my many talents." She chuckled. "Whatever went on between you and Sacha back then has no effect on me. I won't judge you on being a super douche."

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Ambrose listens to her, smirking to himself as he felt the tension grow in the air. He inhales and looks back at the Rabin camp. "Then why even worry about it? If Fabine's not going to be impressed, you should give up now. Otherwise, you're wasting your time and energy on something you can't achieve." He looks back at her. He chuckles at the image. "I suppose that's true, but at the same time, how could you lead the Broms? How could you hope to strengthen a group like that?"

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Jett rolled his eyes and grinned. "Well, I appreciate that." He felt much better than he had earlier that morning, and felt officially cheered-up. He glanced around and went on, "So, what do you do around here? I mean, what's your rank?"

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Vera took a deep breath and glared at him fiercely. "I could lead the Broms," she declares with a snarl. "The Broms would thrive under my leadership. Everyone would be well-trained, well-equipped, well-fed, and happy." She paused and added, "That's more than most of your group mates can say."

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Li took on a dramatic tone. "Well I generally lie around and write poetry in between bouts of complaining about the injustices of the world but in between thaaaat.." She chuckled before returning to her normal tone. "Rank-wise, I'm a fighter. Got the pointy metal stick in my tent to prove it. What about you? What do you do when you're not getting punched in the face?"

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Ambrose shrugs. "Ambition doesn't get you anywhere unless you actually pursue it." He tilts his head to one side. "So what's your plan? Murder Fabine and everyone who opposes you? Start a rebellion, take Fabine prisoner, convert everyone to your cause?" He grins. "You could even start your own group! Now that would be very exciting!"

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Jett sighed. "Well, right now I'm a swordsman without his sword." He gazed sadly toward Sacha's tent. "I used to be a fighter during my time here, but Sacha took my switchblade as part of my house arrest deal thingy," he admitted with a shrug. He thought about anything else he did for fun, but came up embarrassingly blank. "Honestly, I haven't gotten to do much over the past two years for my own pure enjoyment. And everything from my time here is still so foggy."

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Vera found herself calming down and becoming more rational, the opposite of what this troublesome Rabin seemed to want. She noticed this, which motivated her even further to remain calm. She ran her hand up and down along her bow, something she used to calm herself, as she went on, "Of course not, Fabine is a great leader of the Broms. As second-in-command, I can still do whatever the hell I want and help the group, I just have to report to the leader," she retorted. "And I'm not the one trying to change how others think. I think you're the one that needs to start a new group."