But off-topic by its definition cant just be discareded as 'awful' surely if it was neither one of us would be here.

I didn’t say “absolutely”, I said “generally”.

I don't make a habit of letting toxic people into my invite-only communities.

Yeah, with Invite Only communities its really a non-issue. The only thing you have to worry about with such communities is general activity.

I didn’t say “absolutely”, I said “generally”.

I think even generally the off-topic thread is fine, apart from a few threads, the place is quite welcoming and friendly. I do think the bitchfest and unpopular opinions thread make a loud minority look bigger than it is.

I think even generally the off-topic thread is fine, apart from a few threads, the place is quite welcoming and friendly. I do think the bitchfest and unpopular opinions thread make a loud minority look bigger than it is.

I think there are a lot more threads then those two and the political ones that paint OT as it is often seen. But that is just my opinion.

@Dynamo Frokane
I never directly spoke ill of the arena forum community (to be fair, I don't think @Gowi did that either in terms of speaking of them all as a whole, based on his first reply to you since this all started here), so no; I don't blame the arena forum for the dispute.

Also, while I am aware I'm contributing to this site and I've already got several people who would prefer I not leave (not to mention that I've built something of a small community of its own since I joined), I should make a point that this one dispute is not my complete motivation; I've been feeling rather intoxicated by certain people on this site (a couple of whom my comment about having an issue with "long-standing members" originated from) since pretty much the first day of my arrival.

Those people, together with a few pain in the ass disputes (and the fact that I've been distracted here to the point that I'm neither sleeping properly not am I getting work done on my project) has made me consider leaving. Admittedly, the individuals I find unpleasant are what's leaning me in the direction of leaving, but I have personal reasons as well. It's only a small group of people who are responsible for me even considering this place worth my time at this point, and several of them can now contact me off the site.

As for the off-topic forum, I've had mostly decent experience with it. Other than the fact that it's become clear to me that a lot of people on this site don't like reading the detailed walls of text I toss out (again, can I emphasize how hypocritical that is on a writing-focused website, because this point is continuing to boggle my mind), and therefore many simply don't read my posts, I've been able to provide rather decent advice and feedback to people in the discussion threads thus far. This thread is also in the off-topic, so I don't personally have negative experience with this section of the site outside of one moment in the "bitchfest" thread where I had to tell off people for being dipshits. As for the spam forum; my experience of it is (and will remain) limited to the games.

@Shoryu Magami I think it was this comment here:

because it is often very hostile and antagonistic generally but I imagine given its competitive and dick-waving standards that comes with the territory.

That arena folks are more abrasive and confrontational because they enjoy writing about combat which is unfair to people who write for fantasy and escapism in general , that would be like tarring everyone in 1x1 perverts because a large majority of them like to write about sex/smut. But as long as we are clear we are talking about a minority that exist on all aspects of this site, then I dont have a real issue.

Again, I'm not aware enough of the particularity of your issues with people on the site, to really comment, but I would hope you don't leave. Especially because it helps to balance out the chaos of the idiocy of some people the guild with more reasonable types such as yourself.

@Dynamo Frokane
Don't misunderstand me; I don't think his wording was perfectly selected either (I don't think anyone words themselves ideally in most situations; I know I'm tactless but that's due to my hatred of masks resulting in me being very forthright), in fact that's why I answered him the way I did initially, but from my perspective he's taken the time to explain himself since then.

To be fair, I'm running on another day without sleep here and I might be missing some things (normally I'm all about the details), but I understand that your primary concern is unfair generalizations, and I agree with that; I'd have participated in the arena forum myself if I didn't both despise forums that keep "Win/Lose/Draw" records (harbours a negative attitude) and also tend to have characters that are far too "broken" for most role-play scenarios.

As for your comment about me being reasonable, I appreciate it. I do consider myself something of a leader and a strategist, but I don't know if I'd call myself much of a "diplomat" since I'm a bit too blunt to be a politician. Either way, I despise hypocrisy and I'm the type of person who insists things remain fair and just; so I won't be picking a side I think is wrong just because a friend happens to be on it.

I wonder if it's still raining.

@CrazyShadowy
Literal raining (I happen to like rain) or "my life" raining?

@Shoryu Magami
Literal rain. I love rain, it calms me.

@CrazyShadowy
Same here, actually. So how goes on your end? I'll need to go out for supplies in a moment. Needed to make another post in "that" thread.

@Shoryu Magami
It was good when I woke, stayed like that for awhile, homework and constantly being bothered and annoyed killed it for a few hours, it's been back for awhile now, just doing whatever and chilling with Shadow in VC. How about on your end?

@Shoryu Magami
Literal rain. I love rain, it calms me.

I love it too. Just...in smaller doses. Granted, in my region, we get rain 2/3rds of the year xD

@Ailyn Evensen
I hear your state is rainy, send some over my way in Virginia?

@CrazyShadowy
Other than being... I wouldn't say upset, more like disappointed at the state of that thread I just mentioned, I'm same old. Really stressed and fatigued, way too much work to do and feeling like this place might be taking too much of my time.

@Shoryu Magami
As I suggested I'd take a few days from the site and see what does get done, you still have ways to check in on those you need or want to. Fuck, you have the Shadow's on skype and then I can fill you in on others if you'd like.

You should get some more rest as well, I know you won't but I can still say what I wanna say!

@CrazyShadowy You can have it! I just want my warm weather again! xD

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On a side note, I felt I had to add my two cents into the discussion that Shoryu was part of on that arena thread just because everything that BrokenPromise person was saying was hitting a nerve with me. I really dislike people who go 'sorry/not sorry' and act like they did or said nothing wrong, then refuse to listen to what anyone else says like an entitled toddler.

@Ailyn Evensen
Gimme all that rain! I freaking love it!

I can't say anything on that discussion as I tend to avoid the arena, if I can help in anyway would either of you two let me know?

@CrazyShadowy
Outside of just checking the posts (if you have time for a long read; I won't hold it against you if you don't), to confirm I wasn't being tactless or giving a bad debate, I can't think of anything immediately that's helpful, at least not related to that situation. I plan on going up the road to get supplies now, so contact me on Skype if you need to.

@Shoryu Magami
I doubt you were being tactless or tossing up a bad debate. I'll contact you if I need you.

I think I should just write a list of all the ways I tell people how to use the @mention button lel