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Fair enough.
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Generally to link images you have to right click image -> open in new tab -> copy paste that url.
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@Eklispe Should be fixed now.
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@dragonmancer Your fusion card uses "Dragon Tyrant", I assume it should use "Tyrant Dragon", nitpicking ftw ^.^
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@dragonmancer Your fusion card uses "Dragon Tyrant", I assume it should use "Tyrant Dragon", nitpicking ftw ^.^


Oops, thats a mistake
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Also the equip spell I believe is written as a mandatory effect, which is presumably not your intent.

Personal question: Is Tyrant Dragon Overlord's extra attack once per turn?
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@Eklispe I forgot to add once per turn for Overlord, just like the original tyrant dragon. The only Tyrant dragon that is able to attack more then twice from its ability is supreme
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Few things:
First, cards whose names are always treated as the same name as another card, regardless of what they are, will limit the number of cards with that name to 3. Examples are Polymerization and Fusion Substitute as well as Umi and A Legendary Ocean. So, you can't have more than a total of 3 Tyrant Dragon and Tyrant Dragon Overlord cards. I'm not actually sure about Supreme Dragon Tyrant on this regard since it's not in the Main Deck, but I would assume the same restriction applies. Perhaps have "This card's name becomes 'Tyrant Dragon' while it is on the field or in the Graveyard" instead if you really want to keep it the way you want it.

Second, Tail Spear of the Tyrant Dragon is a little awkward. You don't need to have the initial clause "This card is always treated as a Tyrant Dragon spell card" if the words "Tyrant Dragon" are already in its name. You also have "If you control no monsters" as a requirement, yet you allow "tributing dragon-type monsters from both your side of the field" in it. A useless effect there. You also don't need "you may unequip and destroy this card instead", just put "you can destroy this card instead" since it'll be unequipped automatically when it's destroyed, y'know? Heck, I'm not even sure that effect should be there at all, considering you already have 1000 ATK and piercing.

Third: Tyrant Dragon Overlord. You get to summon this card using monsters from your graveyard, and by doing so search out a card from your deck. Furthermore, it's immune to all traps. It's just a straight upgrade from the original Tyrant Dragon, and that's not exactly something you should want, nor would it even make sense to reduce the original Tyrant Dragon to being fusion material fodder. It should definitely be nerfed, or even altered to have a different effect from the original Tyrant Dragon and therefore giving both a good reason to be around.

Fourth: Supreme Dragon Tyrant. The "Dragon's Mirror" effect is rather unnecessary, so that should be removed, imo. The 3900 ATK seems too high to include a "gain 400 ATK" as well, and you already have Trap and Monster effect immunity on it. Why does it even have Monster effect immunity, anyway? Trap immunity is enough. At the very least, you should choose the 400 ATK increase or Trap immunity. It wouldn't be fair to have both.
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You didn't change much at all of your character sheet did you? I thought you said you were going to play Nordics?

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Dragons aren't an archetype.

The wording on your cards in general is a bit off-standard, so I'd like you to look at some of the actual cards in the game to make it more streamlined.

If Tyrant Dragon Overlord is treated as Tyrant Dragon always, it means they count as the same card. Meaning if you have 3 overlords, you can't have Tyrant Dragon (because you already have the maximum 3, technically)- same as the NEX fusion monsters.

A Solar Legacy isn't necessarily a strong monster rather than it is your ace monster. It's a card that evolves rather than being something that is already incredibly strong. I think in this case, Overlord should be your character's Solar Legacy instead of Supreme. Also, Supreme TD either has too low level or too high attack. I think its attack, effects, and summoning condition should let it be at least level 12 like BEUD.

EDIT: Is everyone wrapped up? If so, I'll move the story along.
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I'm ready to move on.
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@mattmanganon

You didn't change much at all of your character sheet did you? I thought you said you were going to play Nordics?

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Dragons aren't an archetype.

The wording on your cards in general is a bit off-standard, so I'd like you to look at some of the actual cards in the game to make it more streamlined.

If Tyrant Dragon Overlord is treated as Tyrant Dragon always, it means they count as the same card. Meaning if you have 3 overlords, you can't have Tyrant Dragon (because you already have the maximum 3, technically)- same as the NEX fusion monsters.

A Solar Legacy isn't necessarily a strong monster rather than it is your ace monster. It's a card that evolves rather than being something that is already incredibly strong. I think in this case, Overlord should be your character's Solar Legacy instead of Supreme. Also, Supreme TD either has too low level or too high attack. I think its attack, effects, and summoning condition should let it be at least level 12 like BEUD.

EDIT: Is everyone wrapped up? If so, I'll move the story along.


I'll fix the wording in a little bit I'm just going to leave notes under the cards to clear some mistypes and whatnot. For now I will take the advice and switch the Solar legacy to overlord instead of Supreme.
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Wow. Ok. Issues

#1: Because of your fusion monster's name clause you can't actually make it since you can only run a max. of 3 of each card in a deck. This can be solved with just havin it treated at Tyrant Dragon while on the field or in the grave.

#2:It's "attack again" effect is kind of busted. Change it to "attack another monster once again in a row" and put a once per turn clause on it.

#3:Tail Spear just doesn't work. For one you can't tribute summon from the graveyard.

#4. It's activation requires you to have no monsters but then it wants you to tribute monsters from both the field and hand. If you need to have an open field to use it then why have the option to tribute from the field?

#5: 1000 atk is kind of big, especially for a revival equip. Remove this.

#6: The wordin youre lookin for is "if the equipped monster would be destroyed, destroy this card instead."

#7: Not quite sure why it needs to be treated as a Tyrant Dragon spell when it already has Tyrant Dragon in the name.

#8: What do you mean "tributed from the graveyard"? Don't you mean banished?

#9: It's effect that makes it attack again should require the destroyed monster to be sent to the graveyard.

#10: Once again, since this has a name clause you can't more than 3 of it. You are currently runnin' 6 Tyrant Dragons.

#11: A card that is unaffected by traps AND can attack multiple times AND is a casual plus 1 as soon as it comes out seems terribly broken. Pick 2 and scrap the third.
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#6: The wordin youre lookin for is "if the equipped monster would be destroyed, destroy this card instead."


To be fair for this one they could want it to work on effects that remove from the field. It would be a new effect and stupid considering the amount of power but there it is. Also you're... a little overbearing, given you're not the GM perhaps wording as suggestions or requests would be better :<
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#9: It's effect that makes it attack again should require the destroyed monster to be sent to the graveyard.


Well, Pendulum Monsters are a thing, so maybe destroying by battle in general is fine.
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Nah dude. Matchups should be a thing.
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(will update the actual cards a bit later since I have to reupload them, and if any more changes are needed then uploading them now would be a bit of a waste.)







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#1: Because of your fusion monster's name clause you can't actually make it since you can only run a max. of 3 of each card in a deck. This can be solved with just havin it treated at Tyrant Dragon while on the field or in the grave.


This has been addressed like twice already. You don't need to say it again.

#2:It's "attack again" effect is kind of busted. Change it to "attack another monster once again in a row" and put a once per turn clause on it.


It's really not that big a deal. I might think about it, but for now I'm okay unless someone can make a good case for it not only for me but Mr. Dragonmancer.

#3:Tail Spear just doesn't work. For one you can't tribute summon from the graveyard.


The wording was a little confusing, but it doesn't say tribute from the graveyard, it says to the graveyard.

#4. It's activation requires you to have no monsters but then it wants you to tribute monsters from both the field and hand. If you need to have an open field to use it then why have the option to tribute from the field?


Again, bad wording. He's apparently doing an errata of it so that he tributes from the hand. I think he should say "special summon" instead of "tribute summon" too. I'm also pondering whether or not to change "tribute" to "send from hand to graveyard" so he can't exploit Hieratics.

#5: 1000 atk is kind of big, especially for a revival equip. Remove this.


Axe of Despair OP komoney pls nerf

#6: The wordin youre lookin for is "if the equipped monster would be destroyed, destroy this card instead."


He knows.

#7: Not quite sure why it needs to be treated as a Tyrant Dragon spell when it already has Tyrant Dragon in the name.


See above.

#8: What do you mean "tributed from the graveyard"? Don't you mean banished?


Djinns are "tributed" from the graveyard.

#9: It's effect that makes it attack again should require the destroyed monster to be sent to the graveyard.


Maybe, but it's not like he can just randomly tech Dark Law into the deck so it's not like that'll even matter. Again a problem of wording, which has been addressed.

#10: Once again, since this has a name clause you can't more than 3 of it. You are currently runnin' 6 Tyrant Dragons.


The horse has been dead for hours, yet you still continue to beat it. Why?

#11: A card that is unaffected by traps AND can attack multiple times AND is a casual plus 1 as soon as it comes out seems terribly broken. Pick 2 and scrap the third.


Supreme Tyrant Dragon requires three specific monster either on board or in the grave and a fourth card to fuse them all. As opposed to Kozmo shups or BECMD which are stronger and need less to summon.

Also please GM your own game. This one's mine's.
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Tail Spear: Again, you actually can't tribute from the graveyard. Just have it use tributes from tge hand since the in hand cost would balance this out. Also 1000 atk plus piercing on what is effectively a revival card seems a little too strong and your monsters are big anyways.

Supreme Tyrant Dragon: Still needs a once per turn clause and have its attack restricted to only monsters. Better yet have it so it can only attack monsters.

Tyrant Dragon Overlord: The wording you want is "This card can be tribute summoned but tributing dragon-type monsters from your hand and/or banishing dragon-type monsters from your graveyard". Also summon protection is superbusted on card that is also protected from spell-based spot removal.

Edit: Was busy composin when you posted above. Sorry if I got preachy.
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