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So wait, are you saying just write out the conclusion without waiting for Players?

Well, you want to end it right? Have the players finish their scenes if you want, and then a final post to wrap it up where the Jester narrates the ultimate end of the conflict between the PC's and the Imperator, and the aftermath. And there you have your good end.

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Well yes, that does effectively end things but I wouldn't call that a "Good Ending" because it's not really earned. This method is possible and not too far to what was going to happen, but it won't achieve the best possible ending. In that sense, this "Bad Ending" fits the definition you had earlier.

If the Big Bad is defeated and the world does not come out of the story worse off than when it went in, it's a Good Ending, by most modern conventional definitions, regardless of whether said victory was 'earned' or not. -_-

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But that's the thing Flame. Given the actions of the PCs, we don't intend to have the Big Bad defeated. Hence, the Bad Ending.

And hence what I said before, about you not thinking we did well enough to warrant a Good Ending (which you determined as me being passive aggressive when it turns out that I was, in fact, right)

This method is possible and not too far to what was going to happen, but it won't achieve the best possible ending. In that sense, this "Bad Ending" fits the definition you had earlier.

Err, my definition was not 'best possible ending', my definition was 'actually resolves the conflict in a positive manner'. Unless the GOlden Ending was also the only possible ending where things go well on the whole, they are still two different things.

I suppose what I should be asking is why do you care? Alex isn't involved with the others so it's not like he's going to be killed off.

....Because as a player in the RP I am allowed to care about whether the other players in the RP had a satisfactory experience? Especially since they were the ones engaged with what the actual plot of the RP was supposed to be?

You also seem fine with this outcome.

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As I said, I am disappointed, but not surprised. Ultimately it makes me feel like this RP was an incredible waste of time because nothing that anyone did will actually end up mattering, and even my guy contributes to that (he still has a Relic they can track after all). And I know how much you enjoy watching people suffer. I just seem fine because you've already made it clear I shouldn't expect a better outcome.

@TheWindel

To be frank, I'm disappointed that we couldn't achieve the "Good Ending" but I understand that you want to end the RP. I kinda want to know what we could've done different but whatever.

While I’m sure the GM’s have already discussed what I’m about to go over, I feel it needs to be discussed publicly. Namely, what were the requirements to win? In my mind that was getting all the relics which, if I recall correctly, we did. Therefore I find it unfair that our ultimate outcome is failure.

Were there secondary objectives we missed? Probably, and because of that I’m fine with our victory coming at an enormous loss. But in the grand scheme if the primary objective was achieved then an ending where the evil was not defeated should not be the character’s fates. But I could be wrong. My memory is only so good and with how far apart our posts are I could have easily missed or forgot something. If that is the case then I'll shut up and watch the world burn with you guys.

This is the only problem I have with the sudden end however. As pointed out interest in this RP is all but gone and there is really no reason to keep it going if it's so we can be done with it.

Ultimately I think ending it is a smart choice but how it ends is the GM’s decision. If they want to change the ending to be a bit better cool. If not and all the characters are going to die in defeat, oh well. It sucks but clearly we've already moved on or stopped caring.