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@vietmykeGreat post! Was it weird I got a bit of a Grand Budapest Hotel vibe from Galahad's house? This giant empty manor on a mountain and two people having dinner in a massive dining room by themselves. :p

Funny thing about the gunblade you introduced. I was actually planning on introducing a similar weapon as the "traditional" Lanostran soldier's armament. The gunlance, which is supposed to be like a long polearm combined with a mid-range rifle kind of thing.

@Drakey I really liked your post! That line about the Grace being beautiful because it's functional was really cool and I feel like Deva would be overjoyed to hear that. I do have some questions about that blue wisp of ether that can allow him to see into the Karamzina. It seems a bit... much? Like can he just send that blue wisp anywhere and see what's inside that location? How does it work, exactly? It seems like it has to do with I-XVII's vision, which is cool, but from what I got out of the post it appears like it lets him convert things he sees in the physical realm into miniature models for him to move around and examine? That part I'm fine with. The part that I'm unsure about is this x-ray vision ability and him being able to spiritually manifest himself inside his workshop within the ark and see exactly what's in it without him ever being in there before. I don't think you mentioned him having this ability, and I don't get how it's supposed to work. I might ask you to change your post a bit.

Also, as much as I like the idea that the ark was being made with his own input, that can't really be the case, since Phoenix didn't know they were going to El until recently and so him having any say into what goes into the Karamzina wouldn't be in keeping with the timeframe. I'll allow him to maybe have sent word for them to include some quick customizations to the existing worskshop that cater to his needs (maybe he let them known as soon as he found out about the existence of the Karamzina), but any further Rodion-specific additions to the Karamzina wouldn't fit, at least at the onset.

Also, about the motorcycle, can't he only have one "construct" available to him at once? If he turns the motorcycle "on" will the Madrys float out of its wolf configuration and then go into his motorcycle?

@shylarahGood catch! Originally, the phoenix was the symbol for the Varyan empire itself, which is why I included it in the character descriptions part of the CS. I didn't really mean to highlight its attachment to fire as a thing, it was more the idea of rebirth that I wanted to convey, which was dumb on my part. I guess in my own mind the fire aspect of the phoenix was secondary to the rebirth aspect. Anyway, I changed the Varyan crest to a stark empty red circle-- the circle is a symbol for the concept of eternity, the empty space within it to signify uh... emptiness, and I guess the color red would signify "blood", which in Lord Varya's eyes, is the price to be paid.

Now this next bit is kinda inside baseball, but since I changed the phoenix emblem to act as the crest of our Warband, I had to make some changes to the story and certain characters. Phoenix Warband has been Father Creid's class since its inception a long time ago, and there's a reason why the emblem of his warband is a mythical creature that symbolizes rebirth. Remember his backstory, and how he survived something that took several of his limbs and made it so that he had to live wearing a mask all the time.

As for the fire aspect still being a weird connotation to have with Warband Phoenix's emblem-- you got me there! I honestly always did see it as secondary! But yeah, I think some of the suggestions that others have put forward could fix this bit of inconsistency. Maybe the phoenix in this universe is made of ether? I do like that one. That could work, maybe?

@DrakenAw, you're giving leviathans too little credit! They're primeval creatures from the ancient world. Literal sea dragons! And while the Karamzina might have Warband Phoenix's crest on its hull, its actual shape is modeled after a leviathan, so there's that. :p

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Working on writing stuff now! Will hopefully have stuff done in a few hours.

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@The Angry Goat I meant a decidedly evil creature for a church group was odd. =P Not the creature itself, just the context it'd have in this particular setting.

@Draken Leviathans are totally bamf monster dudes, sea dragons or GIANT SQUID, and actually they can be really terrifying because you can't see them. Also tentacles.

@Lovejoy I'm totally game for a non-fire phoenix. I like the idea of an ether-phoenix, a pure magic construct. Actually that appeals to me on multiple levels. And maybe it's less fire-hued and while bright, tends more towards yellow-white with highlights of various colors -- like blue for (most) human ether. Now I wanna draw this! *flails* but I'm trying to draw Ziotea's armor as a ref, and...*flailing*

@Drakey Actually, I have a concern about Madrys. If the core is a foot in diameter, and if Madrys herself is a big metal wolf, and if one vial of ether lasts her 2-4 hours...how many vials of ether would Rodion have to pack to bring with him? *concerned* Unless perhasp she herself transforms into some sort of vehicle that runs off a more standard steam-ether engine.
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@Lovejoy The Quaid Mannor is all one big trope. The silent dinner was supposed to show the emotional detachment between the two Quaids- and likely the entirety of the rest of their family as well.

and Oooh gunlance? I gotchu fam.
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No, no, thing RWBY. gun is the pole part, and then there's a blade attached to the end of the barrel. Can't have it in the way of the fired bullet, after all!

Still, the design is so cool. And there actually IS a gun-knife.
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Tonight is the night I draft my first IC post!

Also, I think of Leviathans more like massive whales and krakens. Or Monster Hunter 3.
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@Draken Kraken is my mental image too. Sea dragons are sea serpents. Both are powerful and hard to kill, and may be resistant to magic or have magic of their own.
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@shylarah
Actually, I have a concern about Madrys. If the core is a foot in diameter, and if Madrys herself is a big metal wolf, and if one vial of ether lasts her 2-4 hours...how many vials of ether would Rodion have to pack to bring with him? *concerned* Unless perhasp she herself transforms into some sort of vehicle that runs off a more standard steam-ether engine.

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Right now, I was thinking that for normal functioning, her ether usage is minimal, but in a fight that ether usage skyrockets.

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I really liked your post! That line about the Grace being beautiful because it's functional was really cool and I feel like Deva would be overjoyed to hear that. I do have some questions about that blue wisp of ether that can allow him to see into the Karamzina. It seems a bit... much? Like can he just send that blue wisp anywhere and see what's inside that location? How does it work, exactly? It seems like it has to do with I-XVII's vision, which is cool, but from what I got out of the post it appears like it lets him convert things he sees in the physical realm into miniature models for him to move around and examine? That part I'm fine with. The part that I'm unsure about is this x-ray vision ability and him being able to spiritually manifest himself inside his workshop within the ark and see exactly what's in it without him ever being in there before. I don't think you mentioned him having this ability, and I don't get how it's supposed to work. I might ask you to change your post a bit.

Also, as much as I like the idea that the ark was being made with his own input, that can't really be the case, since Phoenix didn't know they were going to El until recently and so him having any say into what goes into the Karamzina wouldn't be in keeping with the timeframe. I'll allow him to maybe have sent word for them to include some quick customizations to the existing worskshop that cater to his needs (maybe he let them known as soon as he found out about the existence of the Karamzina), but any further Rodion-specific additions to the Karamzina wouldn't fit, at least at the onset.

Also, about the motorcycle, can't he only have one "construct" available to him at once? If he turns the motorcycle "on" will the Madrys float out of its wolf configuration and then go into his motorcycle?

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Yep, I done fucked up...I meant to PM it to you, but then I forgot...

Anyways, I didn't outline his goggles in the CS and have been working on them. There is a extreme drawback to what he is doing. He has to use his own ether in order to see inside the Karamzina and at this point can only keep it up for thirty minutes at the most. The drawback comes from having to drain himself of his own ether, which we have already established to be an extremely painful process.

I figured that since a month had passed since they were told of their trip to El, that Rodion would have been able to send a request for a workshop and foundry.

As for materializing in his rooms, he ain't doing that. He cannot, and never will be able to interact with things through his version of 'sight'. All he is doing is seeing the outline of the object and any and all ether that is within it.

Lastly, the tiny core he just pulled out is merely a 'key'. It is not the bike's heart. He would physically have to remove Madrys' core and put it into the bike in order for it to run.
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@Sisyphus @The Angry Goat

Sorry for how long that took!

By the way, I'm assuming that you guys aren't wearing your uniforms. Is that cool?
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@Drakey ah, this makes sense.

Another drawback to his analytic sight: he isn't aware of his surroundings, and he can't really interact with them while using this ability! That's a big one.
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@Lovejoy lovely post. Y'know, I wonder what collateral damage is for an inquisitor in among civvies...
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@Drakey ah, this makes sense.

Another drawback to his analytic sight: he isn't aware of his surroundings, and he can't really interact with them while using this ability! That's a big one.


Yep, glazed over that one. However, I'm thinking that later on it'll become useful for his sniping, but that's like a midgame development.
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@Lovejoy@shylarah Good news for the two of you - I’ve been feeling inspired today, and I’ll be home within two hours. If it lasts me until then, I can be dragged off to the PMs and freely.
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@shylarah You aren’t gonna tackle me today? I just got on the bus home.
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@CollectorOfMyst *tackles gladly*

I might take an hour or two to get back -- got a few errands to run -- but then I should be around!
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@CollectorOfMyst I SEE A MYST *tackles and drags off*
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@shylarah Ah! Wait! I just need to find something on Mother Indira and I'll be done!

blast this thread for having so many pages
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@CollectorOfMyst *snickers* there is some stuff that needs to be added to the char tab...hm. Has everyone had their vision? I feel like I missed a couple.
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@shylarah Oren, Viveca, and Ilya
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@CollectorOfMyst I think we saw Viveca's in the recent IC.
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