Hi there. I would be interested in this rp aswell, however I have a few questions concerning this rp. Sorry if some of those questions have already been answered before. 1: Are own characters allowed. Masters are clear, but are own servents allowed (balenced ones of cours)? 2: Do I absolutly need to have a character until this rp starts or is it okay to join later. 3: How long should the posts be at least?

(I deeply apologize if I make any spelling mistakes. You see... I am out of Germany, thus my english is far from perfect.)

@1Charak2 Not a comment on what he owns or does not own in Gate of Babylon* but rather his attitude. Any treasure is rightfully his. You're just borrowing it. :P

*Though if he does own something like that, the "originals are superior" thing comes into play. Mind, the Hanging Gardens seem more like something he'd build if for some reason prompted.

@Doom Lord: OCs are allowed, both Masters and Servants.

You can join later.

Posts should be at least a decent-length paragraph or two, since this is in Casual.

@Raineh Daze

Thing is, is that Semiramis's hanging gardens have to be built first, and likely because of what the hanging gardens is there is likely no way gilgamesh would have the mana to manifest the thing as his ties to it would be even looser then say Neba II himself.

I doubt Gilgamesh has the ability to realize the hanging gardens as a NP by himself, he might be able to create a structure like the hanging gardens but without the WMD elements.

*Although the real hell on earth would be Gilgameshs infinite wealth combined with Semiramis's NP getting stronger the more money is piled into it which results in the strongest hanging gardens ever*

(meanwhile I still think the hanging gardens could be integrated into the citys infrastructure in someway)

@VitaVitaAR Thank you for the quick answer. Then I'll try to find something fitting.

Uh... with how Gate of Babylon works, if it's in the treasury in some capacity, he can materialise it. Though that was again not what I was saying. If he wanted something like that, he probably WOULD just straight-up build it; he's the person who built the walls of Uruk. Not materialise an NP; literally build a fortress.

@Raineh Daze

I don't think an entire multi-level fortress building constitutes as something that is part of a treasury, that would likely fall under a kingdom at that point, I think a vehicle like his aircraft is as complex as it gets.

That aside, I would be 100% for Gilgamesh adding onto the hanging gardens with some fortifications only a king of uruk could make. (because why build a fortress by yourself instead of building ontop of the immense base that is the hanging gardens)

Then *maybe* Semiramis would let Gilgamesh inside the hanging gardens without a fight.

I don't think Semiramis could pose any serious opposition to Gil if he ever wanted to get in there, to say the truth.

She probably would actually acquiesce since she's no fool and should be one of the Servants that knows what Gil is capable of the best since his legend was very alive when she rose to power. She may plot to poison him if she gets the chance, but she would never be foolish enough to fight him head on.

You could always adapt a character of yours. Be it a Fate one or not.

It's what I did for mine lol.

Honestly, I'm trying to think of what kind of masters are in demand right now and work around that.

@KoL

*I think unless Gil deployed Ea (which is the I win button of any fight tbh)
Semiramis could probably go toe to toe with the king. Considering just how powerful she is within the hanging gardens (Magic that reachs into the age of gods ontop of the immense fame bonus and attacks always be skewed in her favor) and the fact she is likely within the throne room, meaning gil is under the effect of her second Np and is constantly being poisoned.

The case is most certainly there tbh.

However outside the hanging gardens she'd be no more of a threat to him then say hundred faces.

So the only thing holding her back, (Because she knows he has it) Is Ea. Shes not foolish enough to attack the only man whom has the power to obliterate the hanging gardens with one blow. And since Gil has Ea there is no reason for him to even step inside the deathtrap of her fortress to kill her.

But yes once hes inside hes technicallyon equal footing with semiramis. Because thats how powerful she is inside the hnaging gardens. But only inside the hanging gardens.

@KoL

*I think unless Gil deployed Ea (which is the I win button of any fight tbh)
Semiramis could probably go toe to toe with the king. Considering just how powerful she is within the hanging gardens (Magic that reachs into the age of gods ontop of the immense fame bonus and attacks always be skewed in her favor) and the fact she is likely within the throne room, meaning gil is under the effect of her second Np and is constantly being poisoned.

The case is most certainly there tbh.

However outside the hanging gardens she'd be no more of a threat to him then say hundred faces.

So the only thing holding her back, (Because she knows he has it) Is Ea. Shes not foolish enough to attack the only man whom has the power to obliterate the hanging gardens with one blow. And since Gil has Ea there is no reason for him to even step inside the deathtrap of her fortress to kill her.

Sincerely, any Anti-Fortress NP could do it. That's their sole reason of existing. That's probably the sole reason no one had an Anti-Fortress NP to toss at her in Apocrypha.

If Gil wants to drop by and criticise your architectural ability or lack thereof, trying to keep him out is just silly.

If he's in a good mood, you might rven get something out of it.

@KoL

I think theres also the fact that she hovers out of the range of many NP's (that and she could probably fortify the hanging gardens against such attacks via the powerful magics she possesses, The only ones she couldn't defend against would be absouletes, E.g Ea or thinks that ignore magical defenses)

Besides, The hanging gardens are large enough to take maybe 1 or two anti-fortress attacks head on and still float. What is important to note is we don't know if the hanging gardens require manual repair once the NP is active or if the gardens constantly regenerate.

@1Charak2

Excalibur can do it, and anything owned by the Hindu Divine Servants can as well.

Also, we can fairly certainly say that they don't regen since they didn't show any signs of being able to during Apocrypha.

Huge waste of space.

@KoL

Considering its status though as an EX ranked Fortress through and through and her magic reaching into the age of gods (which mind you if we look at Medea includes things like temporal statis and other time manipulation) and the fact she can spawn legions and legions of warriors to fight for her *easily* I doubt excalbiur could take out this fortress in a single blow, I feel like it would certainly do (in the name of the meme) Alotta damage. But I don't think it'd undo the entire NP in a single strike, this isn't a giant fleshy monster after all. This is a fortress with layers upon layers of defense that make any castle in king arthurs time look like paper.

but this is King arthur we are talking about, So i am 150% sure she could clean up after ripping Semiramis's fortress a new one. since she'd be guranteed to at least breach a path straight to semiramis.

@Doom Lord: Going to have to give a flat denial on this one. Lucifer absolutely isn't acceptable under any circumstances.

@1Charak2: Excalibur's the second strongest weapon in the setting(albeit sealed right now) that is strong enough to ignore magical defenses in general. ^^; It'd probably nuke enough of the fortress to make it crash and turn into a cool setting for a fight scene, if it didn't take out the whole thing in one shot.

That being said, I'd rather not get too into a drawn out power level conversation here right now. ^^;

Reminder that the hanging gardens are also probably EX rank because of their internal effects being strange, not because of its structural durability. When you need to literally build the thing yourself, it's probably not as durable as the near single-piece construction of most magic swords etc. xD

@VitaVitaAR Okay then I'll change the servent into something more realistic. (I mean using an entirly new servent.)