@Odin I think you just have a poor taste in aesthetics, the turbo fashionable skull pots are the real deal

No, I completely understand what you mean. And, I agree with you as well. But let me put it this way: when I pitched the idea of the RP, I told you this would take a long time and that posts would be of different length. Right now things are shot n sweet, because there is a lot to do in teh close proximity. But when the distances and time become great, this will change too. From a writing standpoint, it will not be much different since you will gradually have more and more reasons to explore and look for new lands and resources, and eventually meet others. Don't have copper? Well, you will need to buy that from your mountain neighbour in exchange for some wheat you grow. Will it take a while? Yes. Can establishing trade fit into one post that encompasses half a year or a year? Yes, absolutely.

I want everybody's race to develop in a more natural way and truly feel real. If distances are only numbers for a fashionable map, than can a race truly appreciate the speed at which a horse can take them to a nearby village or town? Can they appreciate the journey of a traveler or a merchant if it doesn't take more than a day or two to cross the continent?

Now, i'm not saying that will never be the case. We can always do revisions of the map, I'm willing to shrink it even further (and replace the scales for future maps) if we want less distance between places. That, or once the people are actually inclined to go and explore or perhaps trade, then we can yada-yada that part. If it takes our glowing brain primitives a year to reach the steam age, I probably don't mind because we'll have passed an entire year IRL too considering the length and complexity of NRP posts.

To be clear, I'm really not saying you are wrong, heck, you're right about many things (except the turbo fashionable skull pots and corgis. You monster), and I'm just saying what I think. Maintaining the balance between fun and realistic is the biggest challenge for any NRP or Civilization video game. Finding that sweet spot between realism and fun that still doesn't break the immersion.

I'm ready to hear suggestions. Heck, get in here all of you and brainstorm this
@MonkeyBusiness@Raylah@Caelum@Schylerwalker@Ascendant@Tal

And @Crusader Lord it's all out of love. I just can't help but fanboy over your raindancing savages that turn into demons because they simply make the most fashionable skull pots, even if Odin doesn't agree. And also, they are lesbians, gotta support the LGBTQ community so early on in their history

I'd probably have to do some research into the size of say, Europe and North Africa and then do some looking into how long campaigns were. I know a lot of ancient wars lasted years simply due to how long it took just to reach the enemy. I assumed time would move faster after the first year or so.

@Odin I think you just have a poor taste in aesthetics, the turbo fashionable skull pots are the real deal

No, I completely understand what you mean. And, I agree with you as well. But let me put it this way: when I pitched the idea of the RP, I told you this would take a long time and that posts would be of different length. Right now things are shot n sweet, because there is a lot to do in teh close proximity. But when the distances and time become great, this will change too. From a writing standpoint, it will not be much different since you will gradually have more and more reasons to explore and look for new lands and resources, and eventually meet others. Don't have copper? Well, you will need to buy that from your mountain neighbour in exchange for some wheat you grow. Will it take a while? Yes. Can establishing trade fit into one post that encompasses half a year or a year? Yes, absolutely.

I want everybody's race to develop in a more natural way and truly feel real. If distances are only numbers for a fashionable map, than can a race truly appreciate the speed at which a horse can take them to a nearby village or town? Can they appreciate the journey of a traveler or a merchant if it doesn't take more than a day or two to cross the continent?

Now, i'm not saying that will never be the case. We can always do revisions of the map, I'm willing to shrink it even further (and replace the scales for future maps) if we want less distance between places. That, or once the people are actually inclined to go and explore or perhaps trade, then we can yada-yada that part. If it takes our glowing brain primitives a year to reach the steam age, I probably don't mind because we'll have passed an entire year IRL too considering the length and complexity of NRP posts.

To be clear, I'm really not saying you are wrong, heck, you're right about many things (except the turbo fashionable skull pots and corgis. You monster), and I'm just saying what I think. Maintaining the balance between fun and realistic is the biggest challenge for any NRP or Civilization video game. Finding that sweet spot between realism and fun that still doesn't break the immersion.

I think yadda-yaddaing the distances might be the best option, then, since detailing over and over how far everything is and how totally realistic that is to the real world etc. is totally boring and unimaginative for the creative process of, yknow, writing a post. I don't think we need a rescale or anything invasive like that, but so long as we all agree to suspend our disbelief and just go 'haha dude I totally just turbo-walked 60km in a day while also doing chores' I'm totally fine with that lol.

Also yes I am eager to meet other races, how'd you find out?

I'd probably have to do some research into the size of say, Europe and North Africa and then do some looking into how long campaigns were. I know a lot of ancient wars lasted years simply due to how long it took just to reach the enemy. I assumed time would move faster after the first year or so.

Here's the source I used and this is me placing the scale over the image of Europe until it fits. It is roughly 8 x 500km/300mi = 4.000km/2.400mi from west to east/east to west. Doing the same to the map we have nets us this which is;

West: 4x600mi + 360mi = 2760mi
East: 3x600mi + 360mi and then some = 2160mi

So for us to travel 'Europe style' from east-to-west would net us 2760+2160mi = 4920mi, which is bigger than Europe by.... a long shot. Converted it is roughly 7917.972km, almost double the size of Europe -- which is 1 continent, and we have two, so for our RP to make more sense, it'd be the equivalent of the French campaign into Russia, travel wise. And that's using this stupid method of trying to figure out how wide/tall Europe is on the map. :l

In short; currently traveling to another tribe for whatever reason you might have on foot is a task that you really can't reasonably accomplish if we don't suspend our disbelief, which makes early primitive trade like it existed irl virtually impossible (I can't trade flint for pelts, or whatever).

@Odin I feep like I'll have to double-check those measurements, but that seems okay. And scaling down the map os by no means invasive, since we will most likely not be able to truly appreciate distances without a map that is far more detailed lol

I've been working on fleshing out a 3D model of the map that I could present to you all to give a nice looking map to accompany with these flat colors, but it is proving to be much ahrder than I thought it to be haha ^^'

Making a good heightmap is not easy at all, but I'm making slow progress, and I hope to be able to make something work...eventually

Anyways, I think we're still waiting for @MonkeyBusiness and @Schylerwalker I know that Raylah said he'd be away for some more time, so he'll be caught up once this is all over :D

3D? pfft. We need 4D so we can play chess.

@Odin Well, I converted a 2D image into 3D as it is. So I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the 3D to be finished before I can get onto making 4D

@Raylah@Caelum@Schylerwalker@Ascendant@Odin@Tal@Crusader Lord

Newsreel!

MonkeyBusiness is dropping out for the moment. So don't expect much of them, but they did say they will try to return alter, so there is hope. In about 30 mintues I'm going on a 2 day trip to London, so I'll be back at my PC late into Saturday. Like very late, maybe early Sunday. You have 2 days to finish your psots if you haven't, or make more interesting things for your race. If you have to or want to update your CS, now is the time. Finally, I did make some progress on the 3D map, but it still has many issues I'm trying to fix. But it looks great, and helps visualize the environment for all of you ^^

Take care people, when I'm back we're switching gears if we can and get this show on the road

@Raylah@Caelum@Schylerwalker@Ascendant@Odin@Tal@Crusader Lord

Newsreel!

MonkeyBusiness is dropping out for the moment. So don't expect much of them, but they did say they will try to return alter, so there is hope. In about 30 mintues I'm going on a 2 day trip to London, so I'll be back at my PC late into Saturday. Like very late, maybe early Sunday. You have 2 days to finish your psots if you haven't, or make more interesting things for your race. If you have to or want to update your CS, now is the time. Finally, I did make some progress on the 3D map, but it still has many issues I'm trying to fix. But it looks great, and helps visualize the environment for all of you ^^

Take care people, when I'm back we're switching gears if we can and get this show on the road

Enjoy the trip bro, and make sure to stop by the Netherlands and give me some souvenirs and secret GM tips on success in this RP. :)

Thank you all for patiently waiting! Today I'll get the next post up and the storm will begin in earnest! Schyler will be notified (as usual) and hopefully he'll produce a post for this next turn! I hope you're all interested in the story progressing, because some technologies might be encouraged or simply easier to do during this monsoon! And with that, I'm off to making a post for you all!

And then maybe fix the weird glitches on the map, because otherwise it looks really good

Anyways... time to get typing for you all and get this thing rolling again!

@Raylah@Caelum@Schylerwalker@Ascendant@Odin@Tal@Crusader Lord

Beep, boop, new post is up! Sorry for the wait, but things should start speeding up, believe it or not. As the people with little time/mood for the RP start to leave, we can all start posting more frequently until we reach a nice and comfy equilibrium of post frequence/turn length/IRL time. I have a lot of exciting things planned for the next two turns as the RP starts shaping up to be more like it's intended form while we get out of this little "intro" period :D

Hey. I'm a bit out of inspiration, so I might not post in the next few days. I'll try to respond if I can, but I wont make any promises!

I'm sorry.

Well, I need some feedback for my races

@6slyboy6

Mother Nature: "On one hand, ya did good usin' tha' stones ya have in plenty round the place. Ya also did good stockin up on tha' food, sorta-kinda."

Crowe:

Mother Nature: "Buuuut not ya can't get anywhere cause' of all the mud and storming. Oh, and its gonna last two weeks for all of you as well, which is as long as ya food stores gonna hafta last."

Crowe:

Mother Nature: "...Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut, ya' get ta' worship dem storms and make it out as some sky god/goddess thing. However ya wanna go about it, storm seems ta like ya kiddos. So enjoy the new deity!"

Crowe:

(On that note....will we ever have legit deities coming into being? Maybe ones that already exist, or ones that come into being because the imagination of the various races might mix with some upper-atmosphere magic and form a super being (aka a god or goddess)?

Idk, just wanted to ask. XD)

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@Odin I am curious to see how your people go about things as well, Odin! A very interesting race, with a very interesting predicamenbt to work their way out of! That, and commenting about how i am excited about everyone's races and stuff atm would be even more silly than i am normally. :D

Though they are facing quite the terrifying "wuuush wuuuuuuuuuuush" I agree with the potato, with a suggestion this phrase becomes part of their proper language eventually. Maybe. Ey, its your race and your stuff, i am just making silly fun suggestions.

@Crusader Lord wuush wuush will be a part of their language I suppose, I kind of have to.

Hey gang, sleep deprived GM here, who has been working on that stupid map for like 7 hours now. I don't know what else to say, I really want to put that sucker up because I've invested all this time into clearing out those artefacts. You can cheer this sod up and bring a smile to their face if you make an IC post today!

Seriously tho, I'm trying my best to make interesting things for the RP. Hope this map won't consume the rest of my natural lifespan lol

I'll probably get around to it tonight hopefully.

I'm sorry I haven't been posting. Work has been very stressful, and as soon as I get home, my brain just turns off. I'll get something done soon

@6slyboy6 Was hoping to let others go a bit earlier than myself this round, but barring anything coming out of the blue i will either get in a post tomorrow, Thursday before work, or Sunday (cause i don't know my work schedule for next week until an hour from now TwT)